Character Discussion Thread

[KingofPhantoms]

Personally I don't see that happening UNLESS by some miracle we get Paper Mario after all.
But in that case they would probably be 2D.

I do think we'll get some Paper Mario content in the game, most likely in the form of trophies (and stickers if those return) . It's unfortunate that more significant Paper Mario content is unlikely unless Paper Mario himself manages to make the cut.


I think we would be lucky to get a Paper Mario stage at this point.

 

[Louie G.]

Hey. It's been a while.

So I've had some time to reflect on my opinions.
So here's a roster.
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It is a more conservative, all-encompassing approach.

This is essentially my roster minus Miis and Pac-Man.
I would at least consider Miis at this point.

I do think we'll get some Paper Mario content in the game, most likely in the form of trophies (and stickers if those return) . It's unfortunate that more significant Paper Mario content is unlikely unless Paper Mario himself manages to make the cut.


I think we would be lucky to get a Paper Mario stage at this point.

I personally think that we'll get some kind of Sticker Star stage.
I would love facing off while Gooper Blooper whacks the fighters with the beat.
That's probably my favorite stage idea (come up with by yours truly).

 

[Tepig2000]

I'd really like to see a partner from one of the Paper Mario games become an Assist Trophy. Particularly Vivian or Admiral Bobbery.

Vivian could set nearby players on fire, and Admiral Bobbery could be like a more powerful Bob-omb that chases after a specific player. I think a lot of the partners from the Paper Mario series could be pretty fun Assists IMO. Plus, we'd finally get to see some more Paper Mario characters in a 3D model. I still hope for the day we see Lady Bow in 3D.

EDIT: So far the Villager is the character I plan to try out first.

You know who's the best option for Paper Mario Assist Trophy?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

You know who's the best option for Paper Mario Assist Trophy?

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How could I forget one of my favorite Mario characters? She'd make a great Assist.

If only we could have her boss theme in as well, she wouldn't be complete without it.

 

[Kenith]

I'll maybe make a roster if there's a reveal tomorrow. Or even if there isn't one. I just want to see more official artwork, honestly.

I know right? I don't even care about the actual characters that much anymore, I just want that sweet, sleek HD quality artwork.
Especially for Ganondorf, the Falcon, and Zero Suit (but not if she's the Other M version, eck)

 

[Louie G.]

You know who's the best option for Paper Mario Assist Trophy?

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The pure confusion when I first saw Mimi's head spin around...
Ugh.
Super Paper Mario was so great.

 

[CalumG]

So, what about Metroid Other M?

Or Sonic for that matter. I'm more than alienated by modern Sonic and his shenanigans in Smash, but alas, Sakurai is a merciless God and probably won't ever add a Classic Sonic. If the divide between old and new Pac-Man is 'shaky', then including new Sonic over old Sonic is equally shaky. Ghostly Adventures isn't a problem for Pac-Man in Smash - or at least, it's no more of a problem than Sonic 06 was during the pre-Brawl era.

 

[Louie G.]

Or Sonic for that matter. I'm more than alienated by modern Sonic and his shenanigans in Smash, but alas, Sakurai is a merciless God and probably won't ever add a Classic Sonic. If the divide between old and new Pac-Man is 'shaky', then including new Sonic over old Sonic is equally shaky. Ghostly Adventures isn't a problem for Pac-Man in Smash - or at least, it's no more of a problem than Sonic 06 was during the pre-Brawl era.

Modern Sonic has a Classic Sonic moveset.
I am a firm believer that we would get a Classic Pac-Man moveset if he's in Smash.

 

[ChikoLad]

Sonic the Fighters is not a well-known title, maybe now more people are aware of it. But prior to WiR it was barely "well-known" and people were far more familiar with Sonic Battle. I think it's fair to argue that there are still more people are familiar with Sonic Battle instead of Fighters and Sonic took practically nothing from it.
I can guarantee that you can ask anyone if they know what Sonic the Fighters is, and more than half of the time they'll have no idea what you're talking about OR confuse it with Sonic Battle.

Mario's Up Tilt is somewhat based off of an attack animation from Super Mario RPG. BUt my point still stands, characters will derive aspects from a majority of their appearances in Video Games.

As for iconic moves being put into Specials, Wario's iconic shoulder bash is his SIde Smash. I don't remember Wario being iconic for Biting people either. The iconic G&W game, Ball, is Mr. Game & Watch's Grab and Throws; not a special either. Specials aren't always iconic things a character is known for either.
...and that relates to my point how? I mean either way, we're going to Ghostly Adventures' design at the very least if Pac-Man is playable. His moveset could classically focused, just like Sonic's is.
This is why the best route to go is Ghostly Adventures Design with the attitude the original Pac has (in other words: no speaking just sound effects). Like they've essentially done in every Pac-Man game prior to Ghostly Adventures.

No, Sonic the Fighters has enough of a reputation. Bean the Dynamite and Bark the Polar Bear only ever really featured in that game, and along with Mighty and Fang the Sniper, people have wanted them back for a while (Bean and Mighty actually received small cameos in Generations). Sonic Battle is more popular and more important, but Fighters is far from the most obscure game in the franchise. And as I said, the stuff Sonic does in Fighters are not unique to that game. I don't know why you keep bringing up Sonic the Fighters though, it has nothing to do with anything.

Regarding the Specials issue, please learn to read the word "most" when I use it, please and thank you.

Ghostly Adventures being rejected by fans has everything to do with your post. You say they could take inspiration from that game. I say they won't, because it was rejected by fans. It's not the same as Sonic, who's Modern design is well received. It's really not necessary if they want to include Pac-Man, either. And Sakurai is not a settler. He wouldn't "settle" for anything when it comes to the roster, if he was going to include a character like Pac-Man on the roster, he'd make the best of it, not settle for a poorly received version of the character.

 

[Baskerville]

@ ChikoLad

sonicbrawler, we know you're stance on Pacman so for your sake and everyone else's, drop it.

drop it.

 

[Louie G.]

Man what's with all the third party conversations lately?
Sonic? Pac-Man? Layton?
Yeesh, let's talk about Nintendo again.

 

[Gunla]

Yeah. Enough with the Pac-Man arguements, we're going in circles here. If it's that much of a problem, then just ignore the user.

As for what would likely be more on-topic discussion is what we could be getting tomorrow (or the possible lack thereof?). A reveal? Maybe just a filler pic? Sakurai's wacky Friday?
I ride along the first thought, hopefully we will see PT or someone?

 

[Substitution]

Yeesh, let's talk about Nitnendo again.

Ah come on man!
Why Nitnendo? All they do is rip-off Nintendo!

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Villager is going to be quite the little tactical little bugger, sort of like Snake. Though Villager will play differently from Snake in the sense that he will be more about mobility and have a lot of tools to discourage edgeguarding.

Dat Bowling Ball. Dat Shovel. Dat Pocket Ability. Dat Planting Tactic. Dat Balloon Fight Cap. Dat Slingshot.

Ah come on man!
Why Sony? All they do is rip-off Nintendo!

Fixed.

 

[Starcutter]

still third party? such bummer.


let's talk about.....


my chart!

I know I brought this up only 50 pages ago, but any new opinions?

 

[ChikoLad]

@ ChikoLad

Everyone is having multiple unrelated conversations in this topic anyway, don't single me out just because you personally didn't like the topic of the discussion I was involved in. I'll reply if I want to. I don't see why everyone is getting upset over it. I'm not.

 

[Joe D.]

So we sort of got a character reveal today....

BOW BEFORE THE GREAT ANDROOOOOOOS.

 

[Baskerville]

Everyone is having multiple unrelated conversations in this topic anyway, don't single me out just because you personally didn't like the topic of the discussion I was involved in. I'll reply if I want to. I don't see why everyone is getting upset over it. I'm not.

The simplest thing you could've done was agree to disagree and move on.

still third party? such bummer.


let's talk about.....


my chart!

I know I brought this up only 50 pages ago, but any new opinions?

I haven't seen this before. Is this like a likelihood list?

 

[Substitution]

Howdy! Just bringing this here!

I said the Pyrosphere were from when Ridley leaves. I'd heard that's what happened in Other M, but I may be wrong.

No, you're right.
That's the reason why the hole is there.

It was a reason for Ridley to NOT be a stage hazard.

So, then.
What are we talking about anymore?

 

[ChikoLad]

The simplest thing you could've done was agree to disagree and move on.

I haven't seen this before. Is this like a likelihood list?

I have more or less done that. The last few posts weren't even about Pac-Man so much as they were about someone repeatedly quoting me and then going on about Sonic the Fighters out of the blue. That was something I could address quickly, and it's pretty much done now. Whether or not I want to reply to a post is up to me. Don't tell someone to drop a discussion when it is completely inoffensive. It's not like we're talking politics here and we risk spilling blood, so there is no need to try and censor out discussions just because they have been on a while.

 

[Joe D.]

To stray away from Pac talk for awhile, does anyone think that this Andross picture might be pointing to Falco tomorrow? I mean, we've been let down before, but Friday is normally our reveal day, and having a Star Fox assist trophy shown the day before might be something?

 

[Kenith]

To stray away from Pac talk for awhile, does anyone think that this Andross picture might be pointing to Falco tomorrow? I mean, we've been let down before, but Friday is normally our reveal day, and having a Star Fox assist trophy shown the day before might be something?

Nah. It was just for fun I think.
If we get a reveal tomorrow, it will likely be something we did not anticipate.

 

[False Sense]

Nah. It was just for fun I think.
If we get a reveal tomorrow, it will likely be something we did not anticipate.

Mr. Game & Watch?

 

[Starcutter]

I haven't seen this before. Is this like a likelihood list?

yes, yes it is!

what do you think of it?

 

[Kenith]

Mr. Game & Watch?

Hah, maybe. Though admittedly, unless he is redesigned somehow I would take any other veteran over him.
I love G&W, but when I an clamoring for HD eye-candy screenshots of the game he's not exactly my ideal reveal right now.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

Man what's with all the third party conversations lately?
Sonic? Pac-Man? Layton?
Yeesh, let's talk about Nintendo again.

So...Greninja for Smash ;D

 

[Substitution]

Mr. Game & Watch?

I wish...

 

[Louie G.]

Hah, maybe. Though admittedly, unless he is redesigned somehow I would take any other veteran over him.
I love G&W, but when I an clamoring for HD eye-candy screenshots of the game he's not exactly my ideal reveal right now.

Captain Falcon or Ness tomorrow would be awesome.
I could see a Pokémon reveal honestly.

 

[Kenith]

Captain Falcon or Ness tomorrow would be awesome.
I could see a Pokémon reveal honestly.

I believe we already have our obligatory Pokemon reveal in Lucario.
Captain Falcon or Ness would be optimal.

 

[Parmite]

What if we just got a Newcomer reveal out of nowhere? That would be off the chain hook.

 

[Autumn ♫]

still third party? such bummer.


let's talk about.....


my chart!

I know I brought this up only 50 pages ago, but any new opinions?

I am extremely disappointed in you. You forgot Vaati, come on now, step up your game.

 

[Baskerville]

yes, yes it is!

what do you think of it?

Ah OK
The few changes I'd make would be:
Ridley above Dixie (maybe K Rool)
Takamaru above Toon Zelda
Chrom above Roy
Removal of solo Tetra (as cool as it would be though)

All around, I like.

 

[TumblrFamous]

All I know is that there has gotta be a reveal tomorrow. It wouldn't make sense if there wasn't.

 

[Louie G.]

All I know is that there has gotta be a reveal tomorrow. It wouldn't make sense if there wasn't.

Cue disappointment.

 

[Parmite]

Dr. Mario came out for virtual console.

So....

 

[TumblrFamous]

Cue disappointment.

We'll all end up bitter with this month if there isn't a reveal tomorrow. So we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

There's still the 31st if not tomorrow.

 

[Sehnsucht]

We'll all end up bitter with this month if there isn't a reveal tomorrow. So we'll just have to wait and see.

All pics and no confirmations makes Sehnsucht a dull boy.

 

[TumblrFamous]

True, there is Monday. That'd be weird, having a Monday reveal finally.

 

[Kenith]

We'll all end up bitter with this month if there isn't a reveal tomorrow. So we'll just have to wait and see.

So we'll be bitter for three days? That's not so bad.

It would be funny to get a silly newcomer reveal on April 1st, like Tingle.