Character Discussion Thread

[Pakky]

Anouncer: Aaaand now! From the person who brought up the Clone argument: The "reps" argument.

How?
1: he would have a projectile
2: he would use his spear, as a spear. not a sword
3: he can't fly=he can't use shuttle loop
4: he wouldn't have the same physics as Meta Knight
5: cannot teleport as he doesn't have the cape
Already not a clone.

That's all fair and good but you know who else became a clone despite having no relation to the person he was a clone of?

Yeah Ganondorf, has nothing to do with Falcon yet became a clone of him. Though GK is different from MK there are enough similarities present to make him a clone. Also he can fly

Spoiler

As far as Pokemon go. We have six. That's perfect, you should know why.

 

[Chandeelure]

Would anyone here buy Pichu as DLC?

Obviously.

 

[Pakky]

The joke is that I'm not a man, and I'm criticizing how 99% of the people who say 'clone' literally don't have imagination

I'm not saying it's impossible for him to be unique. I'm saying that he probably won't be. Also it's not nice to generalize.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That's all fair and good but you know who else became a clone despite having no relation to the person he was a clone of?

Yeah Ganondorf, has nothing to do with Falcon yet became a clone of him. Though GK is different from MK there are enough similarities present to make him a clone. Also he can fly

Spoiler

As far as Pokemon go. We have six. That's perfect, you should know why.

First of all, flight isn't really a limitation, and second, you mentioned Ganondorf. I'd like to say to everyone right now that FalconDorf is the proof we'd never get a single IC

 

[Pakky]

First of all, flight isn't really a limitation, and second, you mentioned Ganondorf. I'd like to say to everyone right now that FalconDorf is the proof we'd never get a single IC

I'm sorry what does "IC" mean?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ice Climber(s)

I'm sorry what does "IC" mean?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

That's all fair and good but you know who else became a clone despite having no relation to the person he was a clone of?

Yeah Ganondorf, has nothing to do with Falcon yet became a clone of him.

That was a last minute inclusion because of high fan demand. This is DLC.

Though GK is different from MK there are enough similarities present to make him a clone. Also he can fly

Spoiler

I thought you were talking about Bandana Dee. Sorry.

As far as Pokemon go. We have six. That's perfect, you should know why.

Ok. Tell me this: Why does the fact we have six Pokémon in the roster make any other Pokémon a bad inclusion?

 

[Pakky]

Ice Climber(s)

Oh yeah they're not coming at all.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ok. Tell me this: Why does the fact we have six Pokémon in the roster make any other Pokémon a bad inclusion?

Some people don't think Nintendo's second best selling franchise deserves a lot of characters

 

[Tomlanji]

I had to change my pants after watching the Roy and Ryu videos. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I had to change my pants after watching the Roy and Ryu videos. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

You clearly **** yourself out of horror like the majority of the site I presume

 

[Diddy Kong]

You clearly **** yourself out of horror like the majority of the site I presume

Am so happy that I accepted the leak already before these videos. <3

 

[Curious Villager]

To be fair, most of the times a character becomes a large clone. It's usually due to time constraints.
Or simply because the developers wanted to keep these characters close to how they where in previous games in order to not alienate the veteran players of those characters. (Although usually they try to mix them up a little further if they are a higher priority) Or because they wanted to pad out the roster due to looking too small, but there's no real need for that anymore.

I'm not sure how much time the dev's had left during Brawl for Toon Link, Jigglypuff and Wolf but they probably had quite a bit in order to do as much as possible with them. Especially with the unintended inclusion of Sonic.

So with that said, I don't think the developers would deliberately make any large clones unless said clone is an existing veteran from a previous game or they are pushed for time.

Otherwise I think you can probably expect them to be about as unique as Lucas and Wolf or Falco, Toon Link and Ganondorf at the worst. Just my opinion and two cents on the matter I guess....

 

[A Distant Demon]

You clearly **** yourself out of horror like the majority of the site I presume

or maybe, like me, it was ****ting from hype

i didnt like those pants anyway

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Evil Ryu will be his own character in a future update

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I dunno. I don't think I would buy all but I'll decide later.
I just don't like Pichu & Young Link when it comes to Smash characters tho.

Bro don't talk trash about Pichu. He was one of my Melee mains lol

 

[A Distant Demon]

Roy and Ryu have subforums. little early for it and I dont agree I think they should have waited but oh well

roy
http://smashboards.com/forums/roy.530/

Ryu
http://smashboards.com/forums/ryu.531/

 

[Pakky]

That was a last minute inclusion because of high fan demand. This is DLC.

And he never changed

thought you were talking about Bandana Dee. Sorry.

Its cool, I like him too. However he to can fly/hover.

. Tell me this: Why does the fact we have six Pokémon in the roster make any other Pokémon a bad inclusion?

Six is the number of pokemon you have on your person at one time and isn't strange that both now and in Brawl there were six pokemon on the roster? Also Ivysaur, Pichu, and Squirtle are pretty bad because they're pretty niche. Also Pokemon isn't lacking in reps, and certainly doesn't need reps who are irrelevant.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not posting those forums until we know more stuff i.e changes or moves. I REALLY need to know why Shinku Hadouken is in the soundfiles

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Roy and Ryu leaked... and they look pretty good... can't wait for them to be officially confirmed.

I wish Simon Belmont is playable in Smash along with Ryu... I know he will look amazing in the game... whipping enemies and using sub-weapons... whipping in all 8 directions like in the SNES game... stiff animations when walking and jumping like in the NES game.

It's really cool that another childhood favorite is in Smash... I remember getting the original Street Fighter II along with Super Castlevania IV and Super Mario World and the SNES for Christmas.

You and me both, Simon needs to be in the game and voting is the best option.

Then there's the fact that Konami is slowly starting to die because of mobile casuals.

 

[Pakky]

Some people don't think Nintendo's second best selling franchise deserves a lot of characters

There are six... They're number two for the amount of reps to a franchise... How do you not see this? Six is both a very important number to the series and at the same time is a big number for characters to have in a multi franchise game.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Would anyone here buy Pichu as DLC?

No-one with Taste

 

[A Distant Demon]

There are six... They're number two for the amount of reps to a franchise... How do you not see this? Six is both a very important number to the series and at the same time is a big number for characters to have in a multi franchise game.

t is kind of ludicrous to limit the number of characters a franchise can get from a special number. It would be like only having 3 LoZ charters because of the TRIforce or something ridiculous.

 

[Pakky]

t is kind of ludicrous to limit the number of characters a franchise can get from a special number. It would be like only having 3 LoZ charters because of the TRIforce or something ridiculous.

No other series has a special number to limit to, not mention one that high. If you want a Pokemon fighting game Pokken will most definitely be coming to the Wii U

 

[Arcadenik]

You and me both, Simon needs to be in the game and voting is the best option.

Then there's the fact that Konami is slowly starting to die because of mobile casuals.

The best part is if Capcom can have two reps (Mega Man and Ryu) in Smash... then Konami can have two reps (Snake and Simon) in Smash! There's now a precedent that third-party companies can have more than one rep! Snake and Simon shouldn't be fighting for the sole Konami rep spot... we can have both!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

t is kind of ludicrous to limit the number of characters a franchise can get from a special number. It would be like only having 3 LoZ charters because of the TRIforce or something ridiculous.

"But we onli haf Lonk Zilda en Piggydorf"

There are six... They're number two for the amount of reps to a franchise... How do you not see this? Six is both a very important number to the series and at the same time is a big number for characters to have in a multi franchise game.

We had 2 cuts from Brawl and Mewtwo was planned in Brawl. Brawl would have had 7. Stop making up rules

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Some people don't think Nintendo's second best selling franchise deserves a lot of characters

So basically... "reps"

Oh yeah they're not coming at all.

Do you honestly think that Sakuri, or any other respectable business man would just say "oh well." after six months of development time with a character?

Its cool, I like him too. However he to can fly/hover.

Eh. I'd say it's more like, infinite jumps.

Six is the number of pokemon you have on your person at one time and isn't strange that both now and in Brawl there were six pokemon on the roster? Also Ivysaur, Pichu, and Squirtle are pretty bad because they're pretty niche. Also Pokemon isn't lacking in reps, and certainly doesn't need reps who are irrelevant.

There are six... They're number two for the amount of reps to a franchise... How do you not see this? Six is both a very important number to the series and at the same time is a big number for characters to have in a multi franchise game.

How much you wanna bet that if Charizard was replaced by a unique Pokémon newcomer in this game because of lack of Pokémon Trainer this "reps" thing would not exist.

No other series has a special number to limit to, not mention one that high. If you want a Pokemon fighting game Pokken will most definitely be coming to the Wii U

So you're saying Pokémon is the only series that should have a limited number of "reps"?!? Also, just because I want three Pokémon characters to rejoin the game does not mean that I want a Pokémon only fighting game!

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer, Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer. It's totally going to happen.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Would anyone here buy Pichu as DLC?

Yes, **** the haters.

I wouldn't buy or for the record. And I also would skip if was there to as an option.

Pichu however, I love.

Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer, Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer. It's totally going to happen.

Yes I noticed this pattern to!

 

[N3ON]

I think Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, and Wolf are the only vets we're going to get.

I very well could be wrong, but I don't think it's in the cards for ICs or Snake. Or Squirtle or Ivysaur. Or especially Pichu and Young Link.

On the other hand I do think we'll get more than two newcomers.

 

[Pakky]

"But we onli haf Lonk Zilda en Piggydorf"

We had 2 cuts from Brawl and Mewtwo was planned in Brawl. Brawl would have had 7. Stop making up rules

But it didn't ,you stop making excuses for things that didn't happen. lol

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer, Melee veteran, Brawl veteran, newcomer. It's totally going to happen.

So then...(theoretically)
Isaac
Inkling

But it didn't ,you stop making excuses for things that didn't happen. lol

Doesn't matter. It was planned. Which means Sakuri doesn't care one bit about your 6 Pokémon "reps".

 

[WeirdChillFever]

But it didn't ,you stop making excuses for things that didn't happen. lol

So what you insinuate is that Sakurai cut a completely unique fan favorite because of the number 6 in Pokémon?

 

[A Distant Demon]

But it didn't ,you stop making excuses for things that didn't happen. lol

but it was planned to. Meaning Sakurai doesnt care for your arbitrary number.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

But it didn't ,you stop making excuses for things that didn't happen. lol

Point is, Mewtwo was only cut because of time constraints and was nearly finished, had Brawl had another delay for a few months, We'd have had 7 characters meaning your argument of "We can only have 6 characters" means nothing

 

[Diddy Kong]

I think Ice Climbers easily could go both way. Am still expecting Sakurai to eventually work on them enough so they can be worked on. I have less faith in Snake, even though he's the veteran outside of Wolf who I'd like to see most. Konami seems to be doing... weird stuff lately.

Squirtle, Ivysaur, Young Link and Pichu are easily the least likely characters now. Even though I personally have nothing exactly against them. Young Link would be cool if he isn't exactly like he was in Melee, it's easily the only veteran I think should be considerably changed up otherwise skipped entirely.

 

[N3ON]

The character limit argument is nonsense.

As is trying to look for patterns in DLC.

 

[TimidKitsune129]

Six is the number of pokemon you have on your person at one time and isn't strange that both now and in Brawl there were six pokemon on the roster? Also Ivysaur, Pichu, and Squirtle are pretty bad because they're pretty niche. Also Pokemon isn't lacking in reps, and certainly doesn't need reps who are irrelevant.

In that case, Legend of Zelda shouldn't have more than three characters, since the TRIforce is so important to the franchise.

That argument is so non-sensical and serves no other purpose other than to "justify" a coincidence. If Mewtwo ended up in Brawl like he was originally supposed to, it would have ultimately invalidated this belief since we would have had seven Pokemon.

 

[A Distant Demon]

leaked characters are playable
http://www.twitch.tv/crediar

Roy has unique final smash

 

[N3ON]

leaked characters are playable
http://www.twitch.tv/crediar

Nintendo... sweetheart... get your **** together...