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Arcadenik

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We need more Toon Zelda characters in Hyrule Warriors... we got Tetra (hope she comes with Toon Zelda costume) and King Hyrule... I want Vaati, Oshus (he can transform into a whale), and Chancellor Cole (I like his design).

Just a heads up but if you are the most recent post, instead of posting again hit the edit button under your post.

double/triple posting is illegal on these boards.
Illegal? It isn't like we arrest people for double/triple posting... or do we? :troll:
 
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We need more Toon Zelda characters in Hyrule Warriors... we got Tetra (hope she comes with Toon Zelda costume) and King Hyrule... I want Vaati, Oshus (he can transform into a whale), and Chancellor Cole (

Illegal? It isn't like we arrest people for double/triple posting... or do we? :troll:
have you ever noticed some members just dont appear anymore?

ever wonder where they went?

there are 2 mods in this thread. THere were 2 extra posts made. Do the math.
*scurries away in fear*


if we add the animal crossing series to villager's importance (being the sole rep) than he destroys her in importance,

if we are taking just the singular character it becomes much closer.
 

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It did it, but it doesn't mean it made it popular.



...Mass Effect is the epitome of INTRUSIVE story telling. A large portion of the game is interactions and cutscenes that you have to go through, that take you away from the gameplay to explain it's characters.



http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...axys_Rosalina_Shows_Us_About_Storytelling.php

http://www.wired.com/2007/12/interview-super/

She must have if she was causing articles like this back in the day.



I don't think so. As someone who studied game design in college (in fact that Gamasutra article I linked to was something I found while studying a topic in college this year, I was recommended it by tutors), it's very easy to see how influential and impactful she was.



Nintendo seems to disagree with you there.





The second definition is the relevant one here.



Oh, Villager is impactful to his series. I thought we meant gaming in general.
Rosalina's backstory is not cannon because Baby Rosalina in Mario Kart 8 has blonde hair. :p (I'm kidding please don't kill me.)
 

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I always thought Rosalina was probably a distant ancestor of Peach... like Rosalina's parents were left behind in the Mushroom Kingdom because Rosalina left them to find the baby Luma's mother... and Rosalina pretty much became immortal since she travels at the speed of light so she barely aged since she left the Mushroom Kingdom at least 100 years ago... meanwhile Rosalina's parents had other children and those children had children of their own and so on for generations and then finally Peach is born.
 

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It did it, but it doesn't mean it made it popular.
It did though. Just google Metroid Prime storytelling. There are tons of articles praising it.
...Mass Effect is the epitome of INTRUSIVE story telling. A large portion of the game is interactions and cutscenes that you have to go through, that take you away from the gameplay to explain it's characters.
Yes, but there's even more that are completely optional.

The real depth is in places you have to choose to go to.

One of those is an interview about almost every about the development of Galaxy.

And one article about Rosalina's story doesn't translate into breaking new ground.

Or else we have a lot of ground being broken.

Nintendo seems to disagree with you there.





The second definition is the relevant one here..
Bombette tho.

Huh. With that definition, almost anything can become an icon.

The world has been using that word wrong. XD

Also I do have a feeling that you have a grudge against the character anyway.
That was months ago. I'm over it now.

Since then, I have played the character and have a new appreciation for her.

Regardless, did you go through threads just to make a personal attack on me?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
 
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Mario canon debates in Mario Kart vs. Mario Galaxy? This should be fun *grabs popcorn*
(joking of course) :p
I meant ROLES. The only role Daisy had as main protagonist was that awkward live action Mario movie.
I like pretending that movie never existed. It makes sleeping a lot easier.

In Mario Land Daisy kinda had a main role, but it wasn't anything anybody remembers.
Battlefront EA (pls don't **** up)
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>>Not being screwed up
 
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I always thought Rosalina was probably a distant ancestor of Peach... like Rosalina's parents were left behind in the Mushroom Kingdom because Rosalina left them to find the baby Luma's mother... and Rosalina pretty much became immortal since she travels at the speed of light so she barely aged since she left the Mushroom Kingdom at least 100 years ago... meanwhile Rosalina's parents had other children and those children had children of their own and so on for generations and then finally Peach is born.
Rosalina was originally going to be Peach's sister or something, and a princess, when she was a minor character, but they scrapped those ideas when they realised that introducing a new character as a relative to another, long standing character like that, means a lot of holes are created and they have to explain them, and it just over complicates things. Bowser Jr's fiasco in Sunshine probably contributed to that realisation, I reckon.

It did though. Just google Metroid Prime storytelling. There are tons of articles praising it.
Popularising it =/= "having a ton of articles praising it". It didn't influence other games or anything on a regular basis, or set a new standard. Rosalina's storybook did though. It's one of the many innovations in Galaxy.

Yes, but there's even more that are completely optional.

The real depth is in places you have to choose to go to.
Plenty of games have that though.

Galaxy doesn't have much of a story outside of everything Rosalina was bringing to the table. You can more or less avoid everything other than the token "Peach gets kidnapped/saved" sequence. That's not plot or story though anyway.

Bombette tho.

Huh. With that definition, almost anything can become an icon.

The world has been using that word wrong. XD
I could go into detail explaining what Bombette and all the other characters mean in that list and why they are icons, but I'm not wasting my breath, because:

Regardless, did you go through threads just to make a personal attack on me?
I wasn't making any personal attacks on you, and you need to stop being so sensitive and presumptuous about me like that. It was something I remembered, cast a seed of doubt in my mind, and it took a quick search to find (This site has a very nice search function, you know). In order to have faith in people, you must first doubt them. I was just a little suspicious, so I put you on the spot. Glad to see you changed your mind, though, and that I was wrong to doubt you.

There's no need to get so sensitive about everything I say. If you have a problem with me, you can talk to me in PM.

Isn't Rosalina the tallest character in the game or am i crazy?
She's third tallest. Bowser is taller, Ganondorf is second. Smash reduces her size though. She's a little taller than OoT Ganondorf at least, canonically.

Rosalina can change size at will though. In a way, she doesn't have a defined size, but Galaxy is considered the base/canon size.

I have some old reference images if you wanna see:


 
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Bowser is taller than both of them.

And Donkey Kong is technically taller than everyone, but he doesn't stand upright.
 

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Enjoyment doesn't mean "better." The game has a tedious and linear design. It also has certain mechanics that are way too strong. While you may think "man, this game is hard," if you exploit one particular mechanic and the way the game flows linearly, it's too easy to beat. And yes, that linearity makes it even easier. That is non-intuitive bad game design. If you want to beat the game without much challenge, you just use one mechanic, otherwise, yes, it is very, very hard.

If it were well made, it wouldn't be easy with any specific one-track tactics, and it would have a moderate difficulty if you adjusted how you played and used a variety of tactics. You know, like how the original Legend of Zelda functions?

(For the record, I have speed run experience in both games)
I don't remember ever saying that Murasame Castle was "better" than the original Zelda, just that I enjoy it more. All games have flaws, but that doesn't mean I can't like to play them anyway. I don't know this "one particular mechanic" you're talking about, but it sounds interesting. I just like the game a lot, but I don't like Zelda 1 a lot. Not saying Zelda 1 is bad, or worse, I just don't enjoy it that much. I beat the whole game, and all the way through I just couldn't wait until it was over. I don't find the gameplay enjoyable, I don't like the dungeons, the combat was too stiff and awkward, it was way too cryptic, and overall, I just didn't have that much fun.

I'm a strange guy, what can I say. I don't want to start anything, as I know I'm one of the only people who feel this way about Zelda 1. It's a good game, just not the kind of game I like to play. I beat it only because it was a Zelda game and I spent money on it.
 
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I put my vote in for Ridey cause as much as I'd LOVE Savvy Stylist shes likely not going to get enough votes to even get in the top 100
Plus he's a character I want to PLAY as, I can beat him up in Metroid where he's actually a challenge and not a really really badly done pinata

Also I heard there's people trying to convince others that it was actually a legit rule that a character that has a role can't be DLC
Please be aware that if someone says in a way they actually seem to seriously mean it then it would be best to avoid them because they are probably No-Fun police in disguise
 

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Arguing about Mario canon is like trying to explain why Ash or James Bond don't age.

AKA it doesn't matter. Nor does the Zelda timeline.
I...I was kidding.
lol true ^^ I meant but human length not monster and gorilla
I wonder...If Snake were to get in, would he be as tall as Bowser or more like Rosalina?
I put my vote in for Ridey cause as much as I'd LOVE Savvy Stylist shes likely not going to get enough votes to even get in the top 100
Plus he's a character I want to PLAY as, I can beat him up in Metroid where he's actually a challenge and not a really really badly done pinata

Also I heard there's people trying to convince others that it was actually a legit rule that a character that has a role can't be DLC
Please be aware that if someone says in a way they actually seem to seriously mean it then it would be best to avoid them because they are probably No-Fun police in disguise
Because he totally doesn't kick your butt if you don't take control of him first. :p
 

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I skipped four pages because I'm pretty sure my eyes rolled back into my head after Pac-Man was compared to Hitler.

What are we talking about now?
 

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any spyro idle animation that isnt him breaking the 4th wall and looking at the camera with sparx isnt good enough for me

PS steam summer sale is on. just saying

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Well he does wink at the player at the end of the dance. :grin:
 

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Bowser is taller than both of them.

And Donkey Kong is technically taller than everyone, but he doesn't stand upright.
This is so wrong, it pains me.

Ridley is tallest, which is why only Ridley's outdated Other M form fit into Smash Wii U.

I mean, Ridley's grown quite a bit in Smash. First Ridley was mere pixels tall in Smash 64, then about 8 feet tall in Melee, then was about 20 feet tall in Brawl.

Now Ridley has gone through the real deep stages of puberty. Ridley's recent deeper puberty had such an impact that Ridley's accurate size (which is what we've always seen in Smash up to this point) that Ridley can't even fit on a Wii U disc or memory storage system.

That's why an accurately sized Ridley can't be in Smash anymore.
 
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This is so wrong, it pains me.

Ridley is tallest, which is why only Ridley's outdated Other M form fit into Smash Wii U.

I mean, Ridley's grown quite a bit in Smash. First Ridley was mere pixels tall in Smash 64, then about 8 feet tall in Melee, then was about 20 feet tall in Brawl.

Now Ridley has gone through the real deep stages of puberty. Ridley's recent deeper puberty had such an impact that Ridley's accurate size (which is what we've always seen in Smash up to this point) that Ridley can't even fit on a Wii U disc or memory storage system.

That's why an accurately sized Ridley can't be in Smash anymore.
Um...I hope this is a joke. We were talking about playable characters.
I have some old reference images if you wanna see:


Nither of these aren't entirely accurate because Mewtwo is floating in Picture 1, and Bowser is hunched over in Picture 2. But I think the basic idea is:
1:Bowser
2: Ganondorf (I think snake would be about here if he was in.)
3: Rosalina & Luma
4: Mewtwo
 

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Um...I hope this is a joke. We were talking about playable characters.
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...I mean, wasn't it obvious, lmao?

The whole point was that a video game character was too big to fit into a 50GB disc due to immeasurably huge video game puberty, rofl.
 
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Um...I hope this is a joke. We were talking about playable characters.

Nither of these aren't entirely accurate because Mewtwo is floating in Picture 1, and Bowser is hunched over in Picture 2. But I think the basic idea is:
1:Bowser
2: Ganondorf (I think snake would be about here if he was in.)
3: Rosalina & Luma
4: Mewtwo
More or less, yeah.

Problem with Mewtwo is that his normal standing position has him drastically hunched down. So I had him in that pose as it's a little closer to his height in Smash relative to others, even if it makes him look a bit taller than he actually is.
 
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Donkey Kong's long limbs make me feel like I'm looking at the uncanny valley.
 

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So what does everyone think is going to be in Sakurai's mini direct?
I think he's gonna announce his resignation..
He"s gonna be like "Whatever guys! Here's your goddamn Ridley, I'm OUT!"
 
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So what does everyone think is going to be in Sakurai's mini direct?
I think he's gonna announce his resignation..
He"s gonna be like "Whatever guys! Here's your Ridley, I'm OUT!
I don't think that will happen.

You know what would be cool. A character with a weak projectile that had priority over every other projectile. Like if Diddy Kong's peanuts had priority over the Charge Shots. (Diddy Kong doesn't need that, but it would be cool if a newcomer had it)
 
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I don't think that will happen.

You know what would be cool. A character with a weak projectile that had priority over every other projectile. Like if Diddy Kong's peanuts had priority over the Charge Shots. (Diddy Kong doesn't need that, but it would be cool if a newcomer had it)
I know, it was just a joke. I would like to hear what people think is going to happen and why the need for an early direct though..
 

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I know, it was just a joke. I would like to hear what people think is going to happen and why the need for an early direct though..
The early direct is because they're likely not going to spend time at E3 with Smash news.

The content will likely be some closing words about Lucas, news about Miiverse & possible upcoming DLC stages, an update about Tournament Mode, possibly little extra bits, maybe a clarification about the ballot, and likely ending on a newcomer trailer with a bit of discussion about that fighter.
 

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I know, it was just a joke. I would like to hear what people think is going to happen and why the need for an early direct though..
Oh...
I...can be a little slow sometimes. (laughs, clearly embarrassed)
You guys think he'll continue having mini directs until they finished all the content Sakurai wants.
I think they will. Just so they can give some info on the DLC fighter they release other than just a reveal trailer.
 
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