Character Discussion Thread

[Swamp Sensei]

I dunno. I'd rather have Zero for a second Mega Man character.

 

[Johnknight1]

Diddy teaming with Dixie is the worst idea ever.

Seriously, it would take less time, money, and effort to make them their own characters.

On top of that, just look at Diddy in Brawl.

He's great in Brawl, sure, but he isn't "best utilized" for a Brawl-like game quite like someone like the Ice Climbers, King Dedede, or Meta Knight are.

In fact, a more offensive game would suit him better, especially with combos.

That's what AT LEAST Smash Wii U looks like.

Now, he might not be 4th on the tier list again, but unless they nerf him into a terrible character (see: Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff in Brawl) or make him "not Diddy" (see: Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff in Brawl), he's going to be a high or top tier again inevitably at all levels of play.

If you give him Dixie Kong as a Ice Climbers-like teammate, then honestly, that's just some next level stupidity right there. Like "you should never touch video games again" stupid. Yet, not surprisingly, I hear a few rumblings of such a concept here. It's such a misuse of Dixie Kong is it disgusting.

However, the big "team" concept is Diddy and Dixie as a tag team, which honestly, is the only one that makes sense, yet is the one most prone to being broken.

Think about it for a second: what we'll probably get is either:
A: Basically Diddy from Brawl in a more offensive game with wayyyyy more offensive potential, kill potential, and a much "higher level" recovery... and now there's two of him.

The concept is basically like if you put Smash 64 Kirby in Melee, and made 2 of him.

B: Basically Diddy is empty of what makes him awesome, and Dixie is sorely lacking as well. So you get like half of 2 characters, which just ends up feeling like "Dead weight" on the roster.

Basically it would be like the Pokémon Trainer, only a hundred times (at the very least) worst.

So yeah... Diddy and Dixie teaming is a bad idea. If you want both of them, then separate them.

And if you want tag teams, then dang it, appeal for Sakurai and co. to add like a Marvel vs. Capcom-esk tag team mode or something crazy fun and awesome like that.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I dunno. I'd rather have Zero for a second Mega Man character.

Wrong time though

X with Zero

Classic with one of those 4

 

[deebeethedeity]

Idea for a Pokémon Newcomer I saw from Gamefaqs:

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....Though unlike PT, he'd fight directly while being able to summon Torkoal, Golurk, or Sigilyph to assist in some attacks.
And unlike the idea on Gamefaqs, Floette would be part of a victory pose.

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Unorthodox, but I kind of like it.

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Intriguing but wierd. And I'd rather my sweet Greninja as playable.

Also my idea for a new pokemon newcomer.
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[Swamp Sensei]

Wrong time though

X with Zero

Classic with one of those 4

Still Mega Man all the same.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Still Mega Man all the same.

Wouldn't make sense to have classic and Zero

 

[Johnknight1]

I dunno. I'd rather have Zero for a second Mega Man character.

Proto Man dah bess.

Seriously, that whistle theme should be used as some point... specifically if Proto Man is an Assisst Trophy character. It would be an epic intro (and outro) for Proto Man.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Wouldn't make sense to have classic and Zero

Doesn't make sense to have Zero and Tron Bonne.
Doesn't make sense to have Zero and Roll.

Capcom made it work.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Doesn't make sense to have Zero and Tron Bonne.
Doesn't make sense to have Zero and Roll.

Capcom made it work.

Well I would rather not see it like that in Smash.

 

[Johnknight1]

Still Mega Man all the same.

Yeah, but honestly, I don't get a "sword heavy" vibe from any of the potential newcomers, unless it's specifically someone from Soulcalibur or Lloyd Irving.

Also, Proto Man is still and forever dah bess.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I've been warming up to Victini over the weeks.

First I had a neutral opinion on it, but I now find Victini to be cute, and kinda cool as well, being the first Fire/Psychic type.

And it has butt wings. No other Pokemon has butt wings.

I still don't think it should get top priority for a Pokemon newcomer, but I have it(him?) in my ultimate wishlist roster, among tons of other Pokemon characters.

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[Deleted member]

I may not be too keen on the idea of shoehorning Dixie onto Diddy, but anyone who thinks Diddy/Dixie would be like Ice Climbers is a fool.

Intriguing but wierd. And I'd rather my sweet Greninja as playable.
Also my idea for a new pokemon newcomer.
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Especially since it wasn't correctly hidden, yes. And because of that, it made my post be hidden.

 

[Johnknight1]

I may not be too keen on the idea of shoehorning Dixie onto Diddy, but anyone who thinks Diddy/Dixie would be like Ice Climbers is a fool.

Welp, it was mostly the GameFAQs people, and they never seem to be short on bad ideas.

And again, just separate them. While Diddy and Dixie are fairly similar, they could still function to be great characters separately.

Putting them together is like if you forcibly married random GameFAQs Smash 4 boards posting members; It just ends ugly no matter which way you slice it.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Welp, it was mostly the GameFAQs people, and they never seem to be short on bad ideas.

And again, just separate them. While Diddy and Dixie are fairly similar, they could still function to be great characters separately.

Putting them together is like if you forcibly married random GameFAQs Smash 4 boards posting members; It just ends ugly no matter which way you slice it.

I think it could be fun and unique.

DKC tag style where they can interact, throw, etc. eachother and switch for different attacks

 

[Deleted member]

Welp, it was mostly the GameFAQs people, and they never seem to be short on bad ideas.

And again, just separate them. While Diddy and Dixie are fairly similar, they could still function to be great characters separately.

Putting them together is like if you forcibly married random GameFAQs Smash 4 boards posting members; It just ends ugly no matter which way you slice it.

Better idea; don't pair them up....
and add Cranky Kong separate instead of Dixie! (of course, K. Rool too)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Cranky.

That way dreams of Scrooge in Smash are half filled

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Better idea; don't pair them up....
and add Cranky Kong separate instead of Dixie! (of course, K. Rool too)

Keep Diddy by himself and have Dixie pair up with Kiddy.

I know he's "irrelevant" these days, but it's the only other pairing that makes sense.

Diddy stays the way he is, and we still get Sakurai's idea of the pair-up mechanic. Everyone wins.
And yeah, K.Rool as a newcomer, too. I think he should get top priority over Dixie and others.

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[PsychoIncarnate]

Keep Diddy by himself and have Dixie pair up with Kiddy.

I know he's "irrelevant" these days, but it's the only other pairing that makes sense.

Diddy stays the way he is, and we still get Sakurai's idea of the pair-up mechanic. Everyone wins.
And yeah, K.Rool as a newcomer, too. I think he should get top priority over Dixie and others.

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Dixie with Tiny

 

[AEMehr]

Idea for a Pokémon Newcomer I saw from Gamefaqs:

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....Though unlike PT, he'd fight directly while being able to summon Torkoal, Golurk, or Sigilyph to assist in some attacks.
And unlike the idea on Gamefaqs, Floette would be part of a victory pose.

Unorthodox, but I kind of like it.

Looks like Ridley has some competition. Who is the bigger one??

As cool as AZ would be I would rather not wait 3000 years for a match to end.

 

[Fortanono]

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Intriguing but wierd. And I'd rather my sweet Greninja as playable.

Also my idea for a new pokemon newcomer.

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[YeppersPeppers]

There are way too many cool choices for a Pokemon newcomer...

...and I bet you that we won't get any of them.

 

[Moon Monkey]

The only reason we might get a Diddy & Dixie team is because Sakurai mentioned in an Famitsu interview that they were suppose to be paired in Brawl. If Sakurai decides to attempt again to get the character playstyle to work, we might very well get the DKC 2 team.

If not im sure he'll flesh out Dixie to be her own character instead of dumping her.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Tom Nook isn't requested because we know have an Animal Crossing character. He was requested because Sakurai rejected the idea of the Villager.

With Villager now confirmed, his chances are dead.

Doesn't mean we can't deconfirm Tom Nook, there's still the possibility of a second AC character, but it's a pretty minor one, but they are not dead.

The Tom Nook supporters really declined and fell after Villager, and I'm a bit upset that just simply turn away from the ol raccoon, doesn't mean we can stop supporting.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I think it could be fun and unique.

DKC tag style where they can interact, throw, etc. eachother and switch for different attacks

I actually had the team concept for Dixie and Kiddy kong
http://smashboards.com/threads/dkc3-double-trouble-a-dixie-and-kiddy-kong-thread.330920/

Though most people said it wouldn't work because Kiddy is ''irrelevant''.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Oh look. The new thread is open.

Hopefully it doesn't die off too quickly...

 

[CalumG]

I may not be too keen on the idea of shoehorning Dixie onto Diddy, but anyone who thinks Diddy/Dixie would be like Ice Climbers is a fool.

My speculation has always been that Diddy and Dixie, when they were planned to be paired, were a sort of hybrid between Ice Climbers and a transforming character - one character would follow behind you but there'd be something like a Down Special to switch between the two characters on screen, emulating the original Donkey Kong Country formula.

I can only imagine that it'd be hideously difficult to balance such a mechanic though - it wouldn't surprise me if the reason Sakurai cut Dixie from Diddy is that he couldn't find a way to represent the duo mechanic properly whilst still maintaining some level of balance and fairness.

 

[Broodlaw]

To me it just wouldn't make any sense to pair Diddy and Dixie up Ice Climbers Style this time around, especially when Diddy was a fleshed out independent character the first time around, he would lose a lot of balance if Sakurai decided to change course and go with his original plan now for the duo. If we do get a new DK rep I would want it to be King K Rool, though I would be fine with seeing if there any new characters worth mentioning from Tropical Freeze as well.

 

[Tepig2000]

To me it just wouldn't make any sense to pair Diddy and Dixie up Ice Climbers Style this time around, especially when Diddy was a fleshed out independent character the first time around, he would lose a lot of balance if Sakurai decided to change course and go with his original plan now for the duo. If we do get a new DK rep I would want it to be King K Rool, though I would be fine with seeing if there any new characters worth mentioning from Tropical Freeze as well.

Funky Kong?

 

[Broodlaw]

Funky Kong?

That would be out of left field, but hey I wouldn't mind Funky Kong joining in, would be interesting at least

 

[TumblrFamous]

For DK characters, King K. Rool is overall the most popular, followed closely by Dixie. I can safely assume we will at least see one of them.

 

[Deleted member]

So as this thread is re-opened, I'll repost my question I've also put on the Fire emblem thread in order to see new opinions on it :

Another questions for the much deeper fans that regularly watch this thread :
Do you think Fire Emblem is worthy to have 4 slots or is it too soon yet ?

For me, the ideal would be :

- Marth, the original Lord and "poster-guy" of the franchise.
- Ike, the most original Lord (is a Ranger at first), is considered as the face of the international releasing of Fire Emblem, uses a 2-handed sword, Ragnell, and is the 2nd most recurrent Lord.
- Chrom/Lucina, "poster-guys" of the most popular title of the franchise, would also represent the Dual Support system.
- Robin, the other and true hero of Awakening, would represent the second most-important class of Fire Emblem (the Tactician), would be the 'Krystal' of Fire Emblem in terms of gameplay potential.

I think this is the ideal, but also would be a bit too much.

 

[Knight Dude]

Wrong time though

X with Zero

Classic with one of those 4

I think Classic Megaman and Bass would work out the best. Bass has more going for him to be a unique character.

 

[Broodlaw]

I think Classic Megaman and Bass would work out the best. Bass has more going for him to be a unique character.

Can't agree more, and considering that Bass is the main rival to Megaman in most of the classic games, as well as a secret boss it would serve well if Megaman was to get two reps.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Cut Man and Guts Man tag team

 

[3Bismyname]

Cut Man and Guts Man tag team

Splashwoman and Sheepman. or Dustman and Springman.

 

[Tepig2000]

So as this thread is re-opened, I'll repost my question I've also put on the Fire emblem thread in order to see new opinions on it :

I think Fire Emblem should get 3 characters at most. 4 is pushing it a little too far.

 

[UltimateWario]

I think Fire Emblem should get 3 characters at most. 4 is pushing it a little too far.

This. Fire Emblem is growing, but it's not huge. Hell, if it weren't for Awakening, it would be DOA. Four reps are generally reserved for huge franchises (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon), with Mario sometimes breaking that threshold for being the biggest.

 

[Louie G.]

So as this thread is re-opened, I'll repost my question I've also put on the Fire emblem thread in order to see new opinions on it :

Fire Emblem isn't a significant enough Nintendo franchise to warrant 4 characters.
Heck, 3 characters is pushing it, the reason that I think it will happen is because Awakening was such a big game.
DK and Kirby would be next in line for 4 reps, Fire Emblem would be down the road somewhere.

 

[Johnknight1]

Better idea; don't pair them up....
and add Cranky Kong separate instead of Dixie! (of course, K. Rool too)

I would prefer that as well, but honestly, Dixie as a late addition like Wolf-status clone (which is basically like similar proportions and weights and very few borrowed moves) wouldn't be a bad move either.

Assuming we get Diddy (solo) and K. Rool, either Dixie or Cranky would be solid additions to the roster.

Dixie with Tiny

That would actually make a lot of sense. They are different, but have similar properties, and don't really "hold each other back" from being unique, because they are essentially unique in the same avenues. Still, again, it would be easier to separate them in terms of time, effort, and money.

Fire Emblem isn't a significant enough Nintendo franchise to warrant 4 characters.
Heck, 3 characters is pushing it, the reason that I think it will happen is because Awakening was such a big game.
DK and Kirby would be next in line for 4 reps, Fire Emblem would be down the road somewhere.

I don't care about how big a franchise is, I care about how many quality potentially playable characters it could have.

Fire Emblem and Donkey Kong (Country) could easily have 6 great and unique playable characters, and, to me, that's all that matters.

After all, we play as characters, not franchises or "reps". The reason a series that has sold around 5 million copies (Fire Emblem) got just as many characters in Brawl as a series that has sold over 50 million copies (Donkey Kong) is because of the quality of characters, and how they "fit" into the game.

 

[Louie G.]

Fire Emblem and Donkey Kong (Country) could easily have 6 great and unique playable characters, and, to me, that's all that matters. After all, we play as characters, not franchises or "reps".

Out of curiosity, who are you thinking in terms of unique Fire Emblem reps?
None of the truly likely ones stand out as "unique" to me. Chrom, Lucina, Roy, (especially) Robin, none of them excite me too much.
Anna, Lyn, Tiki, they are some characters to get excited about.