CC Grab

[Niko45]

I'm a little unclear on how cc grabbing works. Is it basically just shield grabbing while holding down?

After that, when are cc grabs a good idea? Any links to video examples of cc grabs are greatly appreciated.

 

[Havokbringer]

You don't need to crouch cancel to do a Shield grab.Just shield while your running and press A when you want to grab.

 

[Niko45]

Sorry but thats not even close to what I'm asking. My question was do I need to shield grab in order to CC grab and what are examples of good situations to cc grab...

 

[Havokbringer]

Then in my opinion if you need to shield to cc grab, why cc at all?

Just grab.(also Crouch Cancel grab sounds like a really dum idea, do you mean Jump Cancel grab?)

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

Hold down -> get hit -> jump cancel grab is the way I know to do it.
And it's really useful when you have an opponent who likes to jab -> grab or weak aerial -> grab, because then they run right into Marth's huge grab range before they can get the grab out.

 

[Niko45]

I find that I end up putting up a light shield when I use the jc grab. Just from trying to feel it out on my own it seems like holding down and then shield grabbing slightly afterward (kinda like a jc grab timing with jump > Z) is the most sound way. You can also mash A to avoid worrying about timing and making sure you get the grab off. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

Another question I'd have then is should I basically try to crouch before shielding whenever possible? Would that hurt my ability to DI down and tech if my crappy marth shield fails?

Edit: As far as specific examples I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if its possible to CC grab a falco dair/nair before he can reflect/jab or say a shiek slap before she can sidestep. I'm basically wondering how effective cc grabbing is in situations where trying to shield grab gets you wrecked.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

omg JC grabs... I've been trying to figure how to grab from dtilt for forever.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

For those of you who don't know, you have to hold forward then press R after you do a Dtilt to shield afterwards. lawl. You can grab out of that too

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Yeah, I know about the shielding thing, but it's just sooo much work.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

It's worth it if they're right above you and you missed a Dtilt..

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Well you could utilt.

But anyway, I meant dtilt to JC grab is less work than dtilt, tilt forward, shieldgrab.

 

[Stos]

you just need to CC then grab.

but some moves will knock you back a little.

so i suggest CC wavedash grab (only if you get pushed back).

 

[KirbyKaze]

cc then either do the input for a shield grab or jc grab

doesn't usually matter which you do although the shield grab one is slower than the jc grab i think