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Captain Falcon Up-B Ledge Cancel?

Darky-Sama

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I've done it multiple times with both Samus and Falcon. Easier to do with Samus, although the times I've done it were accidental.

Did anyone figure out if there was a way to cancel the ledge grab on contact like that though? I think I could find a few uses for it if we can do it. Maybe there's a specific way you have to tilt the control stick while grabbing the ledge.

Ledge Cancel -> Fast Fall Knee -> Jump -> Up+B.

It could prove useful to Falcon's ledge game.
 
Zeallyx

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sandwhale said:
lol @ people saying it's useless because it's difficult.
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*facepalm*

Its not just difficult. Its 'window' is so small, its irrational.

And even if it wasnt, what the **** could be its use?
Get real.
 
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if it wasn't, preventing edgehogs

but then they just stage spike you


so you tech it
 
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If the sweetspot wasn't so small, it'd be of some use.

You could stall forever and really mind**** opponents. I think if you're close enough to the lip to sweetspot it, then you'd be close enough to up-b reversal recovery slide onto the stage anyway.
 
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Oh you guys :3

The reason of the uselessness of this isn't the size of the spot,
it's that it doesn't work if someone is hanging on the ledge.
 
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ToKneeOrNotToKnee said:
*facepalm*

Its not just difficult. Its 'window' is so small, its irrational.

And even if it wasnt, what the **** could be its use?
Get real.
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I hope that facepalm will bring some order to the messed-up neurons your head is filled with.

I've seen up-b cancelling done consecutively, I don't care if it's hard it's possible.

The use it would have is plain obvious but is now non-existant because of this:
teluoborg said:
Oh you guys :3

The reason of the uselessness of this isn't the size of the spot,
it's that it doesn't work if someone is hanging on the ledge.
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which should have been said since the beginning
 
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Both of you guys are wrong. Teluoborg, you don't grab the ledge, it's lip cancelling. And Sand, other characters' windows are a lot larger than Falcon's for this.
 
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sandwhale said:
I hope that facepalm will bring some order to the messed-up neurons your head is filled with.

I've seen up-b cancelling done consecutively, I don't care if it's hard it's possible.

The use it would have is plain obvious but is now non-existant because of this:


which should have been said since the beginning
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No, you idiot.

All this talk about this useless crap is slowing down the metagame from getting anywhere.

OMGLIPCANCELING!!YOUMUSTBESTUPIDNOTTOBELIEVEINIT!!

What a bunch of crap.

Get real.

All this could net you, in the best case scenario, is an Uair, or maybe, maybe, a sweet knee.

There are soooooooooo many other ways to mindgame opponents when playing as falcon, which do not require a 'lip', that this **** isnt needed. At all.

If you want 'lip' mindgames that badly, ledge cancel the falcon kick-->edgeguard. :bee:
 
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After looking at the Jigglypuff video, I think it's actually performed when you have such a small amount of momentum toward the lip that it registers as a ledge-grab, but the animation isn't close enough to start.

That, or perhaps it's going so slow that it registers it twice, but since your first ledge grab was assumed to have connected, your character just falls as though they missed it and got edgehogged.

Either way, this has to do with the horizontal momentum when going toward the ledge, surely.
 
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Yea this happens all the time w/ the starfox characters sideB. But thats because there is a wider window of opportunity. I wouldnt spend any time trying to master this. It really wouldnt be worth the trouble.
 
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Let's not post in this thread, so that it can get locked, since this does absolutely nothing for Falcon's metagame.
 
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How is knee not super banned yet? just reading his constant negative posts makes me want to stop playing the game. If it's not his idea, it's crap. you may be a decent falcon player knee, but outside the game, you're just another piece of trash jerk some parents screwed up raising. I'd pity you for the fact that you don't even realize you're being that way.
 
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Ree301 said:
How is knee not super banned yet? just reading his constant negative posts makes me want to stop playing the game. If it's not his idea, it's crap. you may be a decent falcon player knee, but outside the game, you're just another piece of trash jerk some parents screwed up raising. I'd pity you for the fact that you don't even realize you're being that way.
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lol.
This is just crap. Deal with it.

'Super banned' is teh ****z, though.
 
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