Captain falcon owns snake

[Charoo]

he's too fast for him and snake takes forever to kill him. Falcon counters Snake

discuss

 

[Spidah]

Orly ?

Kn't B °0°

 

[StoleUrCar]

Well since falcon has to touch snake and basically has no disjointed hits...and enjoys announcing the moves he makes beforehand....nade countering should do the trick....granted falcon can probably own Snake in the air but good Snake's won't stay in the air for long.

edit: lol spidah nice avatar.

 

[Sw0rd]

If speed were the issue, then Sonic would also be a counter for snake. Falcon doesn't have any projectiles, so he would need to be in snake's face a lot, and like StoleUrCar said, nade countering would work pretty well.

I don't see how Falcon could be a counter to Snake just because he's fast. Could you explain a little more? And how is it hard to kill Falcon with Snake?

 

[Jeff Highwind]

Speed doesn't mean **** when things are blowing up around you. Falcon's a joke most of the time, I dont see how he can counter Snake aside from his abortion punch.

 

[abit_rusty]

It's going to be pretty dang hard for Falcon to string any combos(as if he can barely do them in brawl anyway ) since he's got to be near Snake, and Snake's got all sorts of tricks to keep him away. I think shield dropped nades + nade countering should take care of Falcon's mobility pretty easily. Snake's got the upper hand IMO.

edit:

I dont see how he can counter Snake aside from his abortion punch.

hmm...
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh88/xXChaos117Xx/Funny Sits/Falconlinkpunch.jpg
bit off topic but ....lolz.

 

[katonjutsu]

On the ground no.

Air, maybe.

 

[FlipNRed]

Does Falcon's B-Up while Snake is recovering prevent Snake from pulling out another Cypher? I remember in Brawl that characters don't get another jump after Falcon's B-Up unlike in Melee, but does it also gimp Snake's recovery the way that wriggling out of being grabbed or Wario's eating move during the Cypher?

 

[Jeff Highwind]

Does Falcon's B-Up while Snake is recovering prevent Snake from pulling out another Cypher? I remember in Brawl that characters don't get another jump after Falcon's B-Up unlike in Melee, but does it also gimp Snake's recovery the way that wriggling out of being grabbed or Wario's eating move during the Cypher?

I believe so, if Snake takes any form of damage he's allowed another Cypher. I've never had a Falcon try to gimp me out of it using Up+B though so I'm not 100% positive.

 

[WIN]

lol can't believe people are even bothering to respond to this guy.

Captain falcon is like, the second or third worst character in the entire game. His knee got gimped, everyone else got buffed, and anything he can do other toons can do way better.

Sorry c.falcon, you just aint the man you used to be

 

[Spidah]

actually, it's not really because of the knee nerf, it's because of the speed nerf of the game and the fact that there is less stunlocking possibilities in general in this new version of smash. But hey, i'm not one to complain.

No, what I really want to say is : Can you stop the theorycraft for a second guys ? jeeze, it's like you're all playing against some random cpu that allways does the same routines, and why do you even bother to respond to such a thread anyways. There are some verry high quality posts like the guide from Abit Rusty that deserve much more attention than a 'Lawl jigglypuff kan liek pwn ur marth anyt1m3 ^^^^^'.

 

[rigapeen]

i'll just settle this now.

no he doesnt.

 

["Philanthropy"]

Ok ok, aside from the knee, his aerials can't even knock an alloy on the first strike. I'm not too worried. He's how I see it... Falcon... Up tilt.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Heck no, Captain Falcon can't do anything to Snake. You see here, the problem is Falcon is always forced to approach, and he's bad at approaching, and Snake is really really ****ing good at punishing approachers. Losing scenario here.

For one, Snake's D-smash will kill Falcon's "speed advantage" and force him to either roll past it, or jump over it. Either way he goes, he will easily get punished since he can't approach in the air at all, and his Forward Roll is really slow.

Worse, Falcon's attack speed is slower than average. He's generally quite a predictable character.

Also, Falcon's recovery is prime bait for being hit by a missile. raaaaaape.

Anyhow, the best you can hope for is getting a grab and keeping Snake in the air with your U-air (which won't work long since anyone can air dodge). It's also worth noting that Snake's recovery can be hit with a Knee if he's forced to use the Cypher close to the stage, But that will rarely happen.

 

[Depressed Man]

Well Captain Falcon is more manlier then Snake..

 

[Hostility]

This is the dumbest topic I've seen in a while. Falcon shouldn't so much as touch snake. He's got almost no priority on any of his aerials, and completely lacks any great approach. While snake has incredible range with his physical attacks, more priority with his aerials and tilts, and so many projectiles to keep falcon away.

If falcon hits you, it's completely the snake player's fault for letting it happen.

 

[PsychoMidget]

This is the dumbest topic I've seen in a while. Falcon shouldn't so much as touch snake. He's got almost no priority on any of his aerials, and completely lacks any great approach. While snake has incredible range with his physical attacks, more priority with his aerials and tilts, and so many projectiles to keep falcon away.

If falcon hits you, it's completely the snake player's fault for letting it happen.

Actually a good Falcon is incredibly hard to fight as Snake, he can suffocate you with his speed giving you no room to do anything, and as crazy as it sounds Falcon can actually combo the crap out of snake.

I'm pretty sure I got ***** by Silent Spectre's Falcon at reno

 

[Hostility]

Actually a good Falcon is incredibly hard to fight as Snake, he can suffocate you with his speed giving you no room to do anything, and as crazy as it sounds Falcon can actually combo the crap out of snake.

I'm pretty sure I got ***** by Silent Spectre's Falcon at reno

My points still stand though, snake isn't that slow of a character, and falcon isn't that blindingly fast. And getting beat by Silent Specter doesn't really change that. Not to deny that you're really good, and you are, but I'd say that he beat you in spite of him playing falcon. Silent specter is just too good, plus he understands the matchup very well considering he used to main snake.

 

[WIN]

man psycho, you must have been wasted or something to let falcon beat you.


also, can I have your autograph? You can sign anywhere, but the privates are off limits till after the first date.

Thanks!

 

[Spidah]

Actually a good Falcon is incredibly hard to fight as Snake, he can suffocate you with his speed giving you no room to do anything, and as crazy as it sounds Falcon can actually combo the crap out of snake.

I'm pretty sure I got ***** by Silent Spectre's Falcon at reno

Wich goes back to the ultimate answer to all stupid threads regarding who 'theoratically' ownz who, being : It's all about how you play and how you can outbrain your opponent. We're not playing rock paper scissors ...

 

[Astinos]

I agree with TC, Falcons moves seem to flow well against Snake, like with Ike and Wolf. It's more a case of having Falcon having airial priority, and Snake being a big target, plus not having such a good time recovering in the air.

There isn't that many Falcons who could back this up, but that's cause barely anyone plays Falcon. Everyone just seems to think because he's not melee Falcon he's not worth playing.... How sad

 

[Kricu]

Ok well you guys mentioned speed not being a factor but I believe it is to a small extent expecially if you happen to be playing as a blue spiked animal. I never had horrible problems against a snake as sonic. The only thing that I ever had problems with was snake's ability to ko at around 60%. And of course I run into his attacks. I've never been impressed with c.f. and if played well I guess he can be "better" than snake but it really comes down to the person playing each character. Learn your weaknesses and don't let them be exploited thats all.

 

[PsychoMidget]

Falcon is so fun to play omg I'm gonna main him

 

[Sh1n0b1]

man psycho, you must have been wasted or something to let falcon beat you.

Wow you sure hate falcon.

 

[StoleUrCar]

Pretty sure falcon dominates snake in the air...then agin that's nothin new snake's air game is pretty powerful but kinda crappy in terms of priority. So a recovering snake shuld prolly be careful. On the ground its a diff story since snake's got all the stuff that's anti-movement... and CF needs that kind of space that Snake can limit.

 

[Xxll_The Boss_llxX]

Well personally, I've never lost to any CF, ever. But I'm sure they just weren't using him quite right. Like PM said, CF has great potential to beat Snake, what with his aerial game =p. They've just gotta know what the f*** they're doing first >.>

 

[Charoo]

u guys need to fight good falcon then like psychomidget did. Falcon is the solution vs snake.

 

[Spidah]

you need to buy a brain and some glasses in order to read what we actually wrote and then understand it. You keep on repeating yourself charro, but nvm :]

It is not because the guy played falcon that he won vs ******, it's because he played better on this game, period .

 

[PsychoMidget]

Charoo is a Champ

 

[Hostility]

u guys need to fight good falcon then like psychomidget did. Falcon is the solution vs snake.

Just because I disagree with psychomidget doesn't mean I'm playing scrubby falcons.

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

Falcon countering Snake? lmfao. That's just stupid.

 

[GodotAA]

just face it guys Psycho ****** has the right idea wanting to main Falcon now. hes obviously top tier with all of his low priority attacks. Just face it guys hes the best character in the game.

 

[mugwhump]

Snake's also one of the few characters who can be hit with a rising SH'd knee

 

[MasterMushroom]

 

[Sh1n0b1]

Dam you and that picture mastermushroom!

 

[Spidah]

hahaha nice pic xD

 

[HarryPooter]

Captain Falcon is not in this game.

 

[drewdizzal]

oh my **** that is the funniest picture ever. nice one master mushroom

 

[Rejjae]

best. pic. ever.

I'm gonna recreate that scene so I have my own snapshot of it.

 

[WIN]

...rofl

that stuff is hillarious.