Captain Falcon Frame Data WIP

[Liquid Gen]

This is obviously Falcon's frame data as evidenced by the title. This is only basic stuff, like frames active, lag, etc. Shield stun and stuff can be by someone who feels like it. lolol


This is how each move will be described:

The Move itself
----------------------------
Hits on x
Active x
Lag x
IASA on x
Total x



K. Leggo


Jab 1
----------------------------
Hits on 3
Active 2
IASA on 15 (when rapid jabbing by holding a, it goes to frame six then repeats)
Total 15

Jab 2
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Hits on 5
Active 2
IASA on 18
Total 18

Jab 3
----------------------------
Hits on 6
Active 3
IASA on 32
Total 32

Dash Attack
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Hits on 7
Active 10
IASA on 37
Total 37

Forward Tilt (high)
----------------------------
Hits on 8
Active 3
IASA on 31
Total 31

Forward Tilt (neutral)
----------------------------
Hits on 8
Active 3
IASA on 36
Total 36

Forward Tilt (low)
----------------------------
Hits on 8
Active 3
IASA on 31
Total 31

Up Tilt
----------------------------
Hits on 7
Active 6
IASA on 39
Total 39

Down Tilt
----------------------------
Hits on 11
Active 5
IASA on x
Total x



Work in progress. Shall continue to update as I get more free time.

 

[Player-3]

yeeesssssssssssssssssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Acedude55]

This is nice of you to do lol

good stuff

 

[teluoborg]

YESZ !!!!!!

But,
is Utilt really faster than ftilt ? I'm confused.

 

[Player-3]

it starts hitting faster than ftilt

meaning that the very first top hitbox is faster than it

 

[lordhelmet]

Some of your data conflicts with Susa's (who had identical data to Knee)

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=216778

Good work though, may I ask how you obtain frame data information?

 

[6Mizu]

YEZZZ!
Anyway, Was this done w/ PSA?

 

[Player-3]

he uses PSA lord, its 100% accurate

susa and knees were used wit the debug mode, which just goes frame by frame and allows for some miscounting and stuff

 

[lordhelmet]

he uses PSA lord, its 100% accurate

susa and knees were used wit the debug mode, which just goes frame by frame and allows for some miscounting and stuff

Well alright then, I'll use his data for the Metagame Thread.

Do you use BrawlBox? Or how exactly does this work?

 

[Liquid Gen]

PSA, which shows the exact data the game uses for moves and other such things.

The jab frames are the jabs themselves (not added together or anything, yet). There are some stuff I'll need to clear up of course, but for the time being I'm trying to get it all in one place first.

Also it'll come slowly day by day since I'm also working on my resolutions (all A's, unlaziness, etc) so that comes first.

 

[Darky-Sama]

I can't believe I didn't think of looking into PSA when you told me about it before, Gen. Thanks for posting that, really. It's a big help.

 

[Chirp]

is it just me or does this not help me any better o______o

o well that mite be just me

 

[Darky-Sama]

It doesn't mean much to most players Chirp, but it's nice for helping people realize what can combo and how to get around certain attacks. Most of us Falcon mains just revolve around instinct and experience though. Whatever we've tested and proven to work, as well as looks manly, we do it.

But some players actually like to know frame data. I'll probably put it to use. xD

 

[Lionman]

This data is really useful for me

 

[Player-3]

me too lionman

 

[Darky-Sama]

I'm still waiting for the rest of it to be finished. It's going to be extremely helpful when it's finished, but these few that have been posted so far -- well, they're not really going to prove as useful to me as his aerials and specials will.

Nice to know that his upward and downward directed f-tilts are faster than the neutral though. Five frames shorter, but the neutral f-tilt covers more distance.

 

[BigLord]

As I thought, dtilt takes a LOT of time to hit. And the jab is crazy fast. Every good Falcon uses the Falcon JAB, though.

If I could help, I would, but I can't so... keep up the good work, men. All good Falcons everywhere appreciate your work.

 

[lordhelmet]

Me three, now finish this before I punch your balls off

 

[Psychoace]

Send me a link for psa and i'll try to help.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Looks like CF should ALWAYS angle his Ftilts. They have only 20 frames of ending lag if angled, which is actually pretty decent if you want to poke. It's not like he really gains that much range from the neutral one anyway.

lol didn't know the upper hitbox of U-tilt hit that early.

 

[lordhelmet]

You gonna update this? If not tell me how to get frame data and I'll finish it T_T

 

[Z1GMA]

Finally, the Facon Data.

Utilt - 7 frames?
I'm not bying that.

 

[lordhelmet]

Finally, the Facon Data.

Utilt - 7 frames?
I'm not bying that.

That's when Falcon's leg is over his head. PSA is 100% accurate.

 

[A2ZOMG]

The Japanese already have some Falcon Frame data (startup time only). Maybe this would help a bit.

http://translate.google.com/transla...ranslate_s?hl=en&q=Ike+frame+data&sl=en&tl=ja

Jab: 3
Ftilt: 9
Utilt: 17 (probably when it hits in front of Falcon)
Dtilt: 11
DA: 8
Usmash: 22
Dsmash: 19
Fsmash: 18
SideB: 21 (Air 23)
Falcon PAAAAWNCH: 53
DownB: 15 (Air 16)
UpB: 14
Grab: 7
Dashgrab: 11
Jump (until the end of the ground state): 5
Fair: 14
Bair: 10
Dair: 16
Uair: 6
Nair: 7

 

[BigLord]

Wow, is it just me or does Captain Falcon jump faster than a lot of characters?

 

[lordhelmet]

Thanks for the link, A2. Helps fill in my guide a bit.