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Yes! Ike was very overpowered in Brawl. Wolf wouldn't stand a chance.
That's probabaly because you are really good with Wolf. I mean, look at your avatar and signature...
ya I agree with the moveset changes, as long as they keep the neutral special and the down special, along getting rid of the landmaster, it'll be more than sastified
Wasn't Wolf already Luigified? He is still a rushdown character and I don't know what they can put for his side special, but for his up special:
That's probabaly because you are really good with Wolf. I mean, look at your avatar and signature...
agreed, out of the star fox trio, the one that needs the most changes is falco, but for wolf the only thing keeping that clone sticker on him, is the final smash, if that changes he's a good to go character from then on
yep I agree, though I think your going a little too far with Kirby, but still yep
Not really. If you look, Fox and Kirby's jab (punches vs kicks is only real difference), side tilt, up tilt, SSmash (in a functional way), USmash, Fair (although Kirby hits only three times) and Dair are all conceptually and functionally the same. Virtually no standard attack between Fox and Wolf is similar except Bair.
yep I know, I just meant by going to far is because of the main size and shape differences along with the obvious uniqueness Kirby has, but their moves do have a lot of similar properties, which unlike wolf and fox who share none but one similar normal attack
Right, yet you'll never here anyone claim their semi-clones because they look different. Which begs the question...do people call Wolf a clone because they think he fights too similarly to Fox...or because he looks kind of like Fox? Or just because he's from the same game as Fox? Makes you wonder how people actually judge clones.
the only reason why people are calling wolf a clone is because of these things
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I like his Blaster (it fits him, and it only makes sense for him to carry one..EVERYONE does in Starfox), but would be ok with him losing his Reflector because other than very rare combo breaking or very predictable projectile use, I never use it (I usually just impulsively shield projectiles). That FS needs to go, period. Reverse engineered Landmaster? Please. They're outlaws, not scientific military geniuses who can, between 3 of them, build more powerful tanks than an entire galactic army. Use the Wolfens (not sure how they got those either, but at least its canon).the only reason why people are calling wolf a clone is because of these things
most people take one look at him and instantly call him a clone, makes me wish people would play the character first before judging it
me too I love his blaster, fox will always be my favorite projectile, but wolf's easy combo making blaster makes it a close second
I don't know about you but that reflector and blaster just looks like black market too me
Yeah maybe give him the wolfen, or have him ride the wolfen with leon or something piloting it, and have him snipe people like fox did in assault.me too I love his blaster, fox will always be my favorite projectile, but wolf's easy combo making blaster makes it a close second
I believe he needs his reflector, its a G-diffusor, and well every star fox pilot needs one, just wouldn't make much sense for someone from starfox to not have a shield,
but that final smash is not wanted, it needs to go now, its probably the only reason why every one calls him a clone anyway
I don't know about you but that reflector and blaster just looks like black market too me
actually he just borrows one from star fox team
ya eiter just have him use an wolfen, or maybe use the surrget turret form assault (the thing you use when you ride on the Arwings) as long as we don't get this:
You'd be surprised how often I still need to explain to some people that Wolf is actually a pretty unique character, haha.
If anything falco should be cut, he's more of a clone and is less important to the series
he's not more important than Falco. that's simply not true. im not saying Falco has more prominence or anything, but both of their overall importance to the series while considering their differing roles are negligible and either or could be interchangeable in all honesty. the whole was/is a clone BS doesnt really matter to much. just look at Toon Link. plus you are also inferring that Falco couldnt possibly be made differently this time around which in and of itself is either extremely pessimistic, or stupid. the reason i say could be cut has little to do with moveset potential. its more in that he could be considered more expendable than other characters within the roster. which lets face it, is true. i feel the same for characters like Ike, Jiggs and Lucario. this is not a reflection of them as a fighter, nor is it necesarily a depiction of my personal stance on them, as frankly Ike and Wolf are some of my favorites in Brawl, but moreso just a viewpoint as to who could be trimmed out. take for example the transition between Melee and Brawl. we lost Doc Mario, Pichu, Mewtwo, Roy and Young Link (though u can consider Toon Link his replacement so call it a wash) none of these characters could be considered necessary for their respective series. and i feel that way about Wolf and the other characters i mentioned as well. though i will say that Wolf has the most likely chance of return I've listed.
Pichu was a joke character like DAN Hibiki, Roy was an advertisement, Mewtwo (I believe) was planned to be changed up, but wasn't. Jiggs is quite popular in Japan and tries to appeal to girls. Lucario is well loved by many fans of SSBB and Pokemon. M2 did not have the love in SSBM. Doc could be an alt costume for Mario. Wolf is only expendable because Nintendo has yet to give him a substantial amount of changes that even the casuals can notice. Krystal is someone they all can see as someone who is different. Ike is representative for the new FE games also.
repeating myself here, they were considered expendable. u also have to keep in mind that Jiggs hasnt been a popular pokemon since like 2000 and ultimately was really close to being chopped in brawl. Ike is no longer a representative of the new FE games. that would be someone from Awakening if u want to take that route.
Sadly, Jiggs is still somewhat popular in Japan (they like the chibi eyes I guess). The reason I pointed out Pichu's, Doc's, Roy's , and Ike's case was because there were actually reasons why they are considered expendable. All of their cases in no way mirror Wolf's case and thus would make your point moot. Wolf has been given a uniqueness and has a good size pack of fans following him. Sadly though, he is not as popular as the other spacies.
there u just said exactly why i find Wolf expendable. plus through in the fact that he's not essential to the Star Fox cast and there is reason enough to be considered a drop.
He's the only way we can have a star fox villain though and he was already in brawl so why cut him
Falco is actually more expendable than Wolf as Wolf is a villain and presents a more diverse moveset. He is essential to the cast as he is their true antihero/villain. That is like saying KD3 and MK are expendable.
Clone haters apparently. However, Wolf's standard attacks are never used by Fox, or Falco, so he's not even close to being an actual clone character.
You actually decreased damage output on many of wolf's attacks. I hate the neutral b idea as it is completely situational and not spammable. The side b has an absolutely ludicrous damage. Wolf's old usmash was an effective oos so changing it to be like PM's is a no. I do prefer the Nair from PM tho and that could be implemented. My main problem is the damage output is all over the place and the neutral b idea.
again ill repeat myself. neither Wolf or Falco hold any significant importance over the other as they do play severely different roles within the series. one could argue that u should have the character who makes the most appearances, supports the hero and has significant prominance from each individual game. and these are things that would work in Falco's favor as he is in every Starfox since inception, he's a main supporting character and he's pretty prominent throughout most of said games. thus is the case for adding Luigi over Bowser in the original Smash only to add Bowser come Melee. where on the other side of the spectrum, a villain could be perceived favorable for a number of reasons ranging from overall differing stylistic or playable tone from the playable hero representative or a series to simply being the next logical character for the given series. i feel overall Wolf falls into the latter. not a bad thing as is the case with say Bowser or Peach to the Mario franchise. but again, this is all in perceptions of priority which is indicative to what people value overall. personally, i would go with support over villain if said support character was more than a one time character. but that is speaking for me.
Wolf has been a staple in the franchise since his debut to the public in 64. He has gained a enough of a following and is not as expendable as you make him out to be. Wolf was the next logical step in the Starfox franchise as would Goroh for the F-Zero franchise. I personally go villains over support and Luigi would not exactly fall under support as he is not a silly NPC and gets his own games ad what not.
