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Can we give Falcon his 64 Usmash
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I'm for it. Any changes to make him feel different from his Melee existence are welcome.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
This belongs in the Falcon forum, not General Discussion.
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
As much as I support it, it probably won't happen.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Yup. Moving.
foxygrandpa
Smash Journeyman
It would be cool, but would make his combo potential pretty unfair.
robosteven
Smash Lord
I'm in favor of N64 moves on any character at this point. Falcon's N64 usmash would be a pretty solid ground buff that'd make him different from Ganon even more and I'm 100% in favor of it. It's a great aerial launcher.
No idea how unfair it'd actually make him though. It'd definitely be a solid buff though, and Falcon is already pretty excellent.
No idea how unfair it'd actually make him though. It'd definitely be a solid buff though, and Falcon is already pretty excellent.
ShadowGanon
Smash Lord
I'd be down with this. Though, I don't quite remember exactly what his 64 u-smash looked like.
In Melee yes, I totally agree it'd be unfair. Project M, I'm not so sure it'd be unfair
Subtle One
Smash Journeyman
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I like this idea a lot.
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I second this.
His N64 UpSmash is so ****ing amazing.
His N64 UpSmash is so ****ing amazing.
foxygrandpa
Smash Journeyman
I guess its kind of true with characters as well rounded as mario, but it might become a very centralizing ground move, which might change him too drastically from his melee counterpart. I agree, he definitely needed something from melee, and that he still might need a couple of tweaks here and there, but I dont think it should be to this area. With his new specials, his whole ground game is based off tech chasing into the air, and he is relatively strong at this point. His ground game is pretty good as it is, if played correctly. If he deserves any sort of buff in an area, it should honestly be his recovery. The falcon kick angle is changed to be more vertical to melee's, making using it for the extra jump a little more difficult, and his up b is also more vertical compared to melees. No to mention, his up b is the easiest one in the game to edgeguard. If he could get some sort of hit on his up b besides the grab like ganondorf has, I think that would be optimal.
This was a great idea, and I like that you're thinking critically to improve the characters design, but he doesnt need any tweaks in this a particular area, he needs to be strengthened in his weaker ones to keep up with Project M's extremely solid and non transparent character designs and low technical demands.
ItsRainingGravy
Smash Ace
I would personally love this. It could be the change that C.Falcon really needs.
Pika_thunder
Smash Apprentice
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This is an awesome idea! I support it and I don't play captain falcon! Excellent!
I personally think that buffing falcon's ground game is a WAY better idea than buffing his recovery. I hate recovery buffs and buffs to his recovery (besides falcon kick) would have way more of an impact because he's balanced around his crappy recovery. The day he starts flying around with a stellar recovery is the day i drop him. I know that would never happen, but still. His recovery has already been buffed enough.
Chesstiger2612
Smash Lord
I support this idea
Star ☆
No Problem!
I also think that this is a brilliant idea. Bring on the 64 love! 
foxygrandpa
Smash Journeyman
I feel like his 64 fsmash would be cool too, and not overpowered. The longer range would help him with edgeguards too
Pika_thunder
Smash Apprentice
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Can you post what that looks like for our more lazy followers? *cough* me *cough*
andalsoandy
Smash Lord
I'd prefer his 64 N-air.
His old U-smash is fine IMO.
His old U-smash is fine IMO.
His current N-air is N64 F-air which is an amazing combo/approaching move. So to be technical, his N64 N-air was replaced by the Knee. Now, there is absolutely NO WAY that the Knee will get replaced by the old N-air. His old N-air was an OK move but it wasn't anywhere near as good as his other aerials even in N64. Not to mention Falcon's current aerials are so solid that changing them should be considered a crime.
Kagnerac
Smash Rookie
I want this and I didn't know I wanted this. Yes please.
tan(90
Smash Apprentice
It would be cool and all, but then you wouldn't be able to create a perfect recreation of WOMBO COMBO, since its starts out with Falcon U-smashing fox
WaffleDinosaur
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I second this, i've never been a fan of his melee up smash, unfortunately this in project melee so
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I would love to see the N64 f-smash, as for the up smash I'd rather see Falcon just get a DACUS with his current one, but it's not a bad idea. I would also love to see them give falcons up b knockback similar to that of N64 so it could be used as a combo finisher.
Chesstiger2612
Smash Lord
Falcon has a jumpsquat of 5 frames which means he does have a DACUS. He doesn't gain any distance from it though.
Any DACUS distance however isn't determined by an own variable but by the momentum of the dash attack. If you want to give Falcon a viable DACUS you would need to accelerate Falcon's movement while doing his dash attack at the beginnig of the move.
Any DACUS distance however isn't determined by an own variable but by the momentum of the dash attack. If you want to give Falcon a viable DACUS you would need to accelerate Falcon's movement while doing his dash attack at the beginnig of the move.
Shinryuenjin
Smash Cadet
I'm for using his Smash 64 up smash. Messing with his aerials on the other hand...not so much. He has the sweetest aerials in the game.
Taka.
Smash Rookie
That would seriously buff Falcon a lot. It would be scary tho. To give the most powerful character even MORE POWER!!
NegroCaucasian
Smash Rookie
as long as there is no change to his aerials, jab combo or falcon punch im happy. it be cool if his aerial falcon kick was 25% shorter to aid his recovery. Im down with N64 up or forward smash
