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Butters (fox) vs Bear (SICK link)

metroid1117

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Ummmm.... no. Your friend's Link is anything but sick. Any Link who only tries for a grab once in a match and doesn't use UTilt or UAir at all is not even par.

Fox - more shffl'ing, less rolling. Wavedashing > rolling, especially for Fox. Waveshining, especially against Link, is a must unless you want to copy Masashi's style of all mindgames.

Link - PLEASE!!! Grab, UTilt, and UAir!!! UThrow leads to many juggles when combined with UTilt and UAir. In fact, more aerials in general. Also, use Spin Attack less frequently; it's too easily punished and many times you just seemed like you were throwing it out randomly. Also, on Fox, at high %'s you can just do DThrow -> Spin Attack.
 

ThatGuy

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It was pretty painful to watch. I suggest you guys learn how to L-cancel properly. Actually, I would suggest to use ariel attacks, because it looked like gravity was sucking you guys down or something, since you both never jumped. There are more approaches in the game than the dash attack. Use the shieldgrab. And PLEASE stop jumping and running into each other's attacks.
 
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that was bad. learn the advanced techniques.

rolling is faster then wavedashing?

thats very untrue.

rolling turns you around and stuff. and there is lag before and after the roll which you are vulnerable. plus you cant attack from rolling until the lag is over. with wavedashing you can do anything immediately.

whatever this is so bad that I feel like im wasting my time.
 

DP's Mario

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Dang, guys! Don't hurt the person's feelings! All they asked for was some....Well nevermind. It was straight to me. Looks like the way I fight back in the day...I'm a Mario/Yoshi player. Can't help out here. sorry! :dizzy:
 

ph00tbag

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Link needs to L-cancel those dairs, and he shouldn't be spamming UpB. That move has so much lag, it's not even funny. Use it only if you're very sure it'll hit. Honestly, this Link was only sick in that he must be physically ill.

Both of you: wavedash. It is a hell of a lot faster than rolling, and it gives you a great deal more control in when you attack. Furthermore there is no lag.

I hope to God that this is a joke.
 

Butters 000

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You guys dont even get it, when you roll you cant get hit but when you wavedash you can.......get it? Rollling i think ist just better.

MrMojoRisin said:
Something tells me this a joke.
LOL, wow talking ****, none of my friends can even beat me, lol.

moar comments plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:chuckle:
 

ph00tbag

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You guys dont even get it, when you roll you cant get hit but when you wavedash you can.......get it? Rollling i think ist just better.
Well, you think rolling is just better. I know wavedashing is better. I prefer what I know to what you think.
LOL, wow talking ****, none of my friends can even beat me, lol.
If that "SICK" Link is representative of the best your friends have to offer, then that's not saying much.
 

MrMojoRisin

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You guys dont even get it, when you roll you cant get hit but when you wavedash you can.......get it? Rollling i think ist just better.

LOL, wow talking ****, none of my friends can even beat me, lol.

moar comments plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:chuckle:
You're the butters from Michigan correct? If you are private message me I wanna play you in some $50 MM.
 

Inevitable

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That match was pretty good, you guys are pretty decent at the game and have some untapped potential, I envy you two.
 

Adi

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I'm sorry for the harsh awakening butters, but being able to beat some of your friends doesn't mean jack **** to anyone.
 

FoulPlay

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..Dude, My Link is better than this and I've just started going to tournaments, seriously, tell that link to up tilt and l cancel his air moves, he obviously didn't with the fair. Tell Bear to go watch Link videos.
 

Inevitable

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You can't get hit when you roll, hence the invincibility frames...but after your roll is done...you are gonna get one bad punished beat down from hell.
 

shadydentist

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No, Butters really has a good point. Rolling has WAY more invincibility frames than wavedashing does...

We've been doing it wrong the whole time!
 

Omni

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You can't get hit when you roll, hence the invincibility frames...but after your roll is done...you are gonna get one bad punished beat down from hell.
During the frames where the character releases their shield to roll, you can be hit.
You can also be hit at the end of your roll before you have time to put your shield back up.

Last time I checked, Butters had a solid Fox. If this isn't a joke, then perhaps this is another Butters?
 

D4rk_Sh3ik

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no this is a big time joke!
lol wtf butters, why put this vid up of you? your one of the best of AZ and then you go and embaress yourself...
i cant believe u didnt wavedash at all, its hard enough for me not to wavedash.
to finish my post... i still dont get all this??
 

Butters 000

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no this is a big time joke!
lol wtf butters, why put this vid up of you? your one of the best of AZ and then you go and embaress yourself...
i cant believe u didnt wavedash at all, its hard enough for me not to wavedash.
to finish my post... i still dont get all this??
dude, you so totally ruined it, weak meng, weak:( EDIT: seriously dude wtf
 

maXXXpower

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Too good, Zach. I wish I was as good as you.

I saw instances where I think it was hard for you to play like a beginner. Your fastfall gives it away. I've tried not L-Cancelling before, too--it's sooo hard. Just like me.
 

HylianLord

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that link should air dodge -> chain more. maybe as much as he uses up B. also, i think taunting will help his game alot too. don't forget shield grab and dthrowing a bomb.

butters, don't be so flashy. seriously don't use b moves man, waste of time. all you need is c stick and dash attack for fox.

keep up the good work guys, i look forward to seeing more.
 

GamerGuitarist7

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lol butters your so gay. how about a fox ditto if you and hanki come to my tourney? i'm not basing this on your video, cuase i've actually seen your fox. i've just been working on fox a lot and i want to learn more with him so let's do this! :) no MM unless its 2 dollars for cancer LOL.
 

Butters 000

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that link should air dodge -> chain more. maybe as much as he uses up B. also, i think taunting will help his game alot too. don't forget shield grab and dthrowing a bomb.

butters, don't be so flashy. seriously don't use b moves man, waste of time. all you need is c stick and dash attack for fox.

keep up the good work guys, i look forward to seeing more.
No, side b is good cuz its foxes fastest move, and you cant throw a bomb down LOL, you can only throw it to the sides and up lol
 

Taj278

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God dammit Dark lolol. Butters tooo goood. Rolling is > Wavedash any day. That was so sick, and I had no idea there was such a sick Link player in AZ aside from Zarelid and myself. I loved the back throw to forward B combo with Fox.

LoL Butters for #1 Power Rankings!!! Teach me to play! I still Wavedash with its 10 frames of lag, I need to learn to roll, but it takes too much technical skill. But Mewtwo has a good roll because it is really long and I can't get hit when I roll, so I think I'll play Mewtwo now. With a high level roll like Mewtwo's I think he can go up the tier list.
 

Wilhelmsan

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But Mewtwo has a good roll because it is really long and I can't get hit when I roll, so I think I'll play Mewtwo now. With a high level roll like Mewtwo's I think he can go up the tier list.
Lol, Taj is funny...but my friend back home actually thinks this about mewtwo's roll vs his wavedash.

"zomg it is teh longer & joo can't hit me zomg"
 

offcell

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relaximaprofessional speaking-


**** i cant believe i fell for this.

you arizona *******s.




p.s. captain falcons roll is the best.
 

Oakie

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i saw 30 secs of the vid, came to the conclusion either butters is a really funny guy, or he's trying to pull a masashi on us
 
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