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Bust a Move/Puzzle Bobble Mafia..... GAME OVER!

BSP

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ToasterBrains Orboknown - Lynched D2
194 - 1 shot Role Blocker / Goon - lynched D1
Kantrip - Abductor - killed N2
PrivateJoker-Brown- Mason
Vinyl. - Census Taker
SneakyTako - Mason
Red Ruy - Commuter
Bardull
BSP
JDietz43
Riddle
Anomandaris_Rake

If a NK happened while RR was abducted, and we're thinking it's a 2 man team, that would mean he's cleared, right?

I think MC + lynch vanillas is in our favor.
 

BarDulL

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Yeah that was the next thing I was going to bring up, why the hell did you play like that if you were commuter? You're basically doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing.
 

Vinylic.

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Unvote each other and save it for last, plz.

This little discussion here looks like it's gonna go back and forth and leaving BSP in the comfort zone.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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vinyl, one of the things i've noticed about BSP / Riddle is they keep taking little shots at each other , but when it gets around to voting, mysteriously they haven't voted each other as i recall, and it feels off. One of them is likely sitting on the other and i've been exploring the possibility of a 3 man with both of them as scum.

However, between them i currently want pressure on riddle more , i've been prodding at BSP and so far he's making me feel better about his slot.
 

BSP

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3 man scum team seems a bit stacked imo.

12 Players

8 town
3 scum
1 Indy

Let's say town mislynched D1 (7). Townie gets killed (6), Townie gets abducted (5).

5 town
3 scum
1 indy

Potential MyLo only after D and N 1? Seems unlikely to me.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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i do that.

one of them is scum and i can definitely see both of them as a 3 man team is not out of the realm of possibility .

Explain your BSP to me vinyl, in terms of why BSP over Riddle
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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hmm. I've found his latest stuff arguably a lot more useful than most of his D1 play. i'll have to re-read i suppose.
 

BSP

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Because as I've said pretty much every time I've talked about my stance on Riddle, his play so far only gives me suspicion, but no red flags that say he needs to be lynched right now.

I don't usually put votes down in general unless someone slips up big time, we need a hammer and I'm not on said wagon, or I've found something that doesn't add up.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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I actually wanted to give him a slight town lean for that because I don't think scum would have the guts to do that. Scum may as well just not say anything.
Well yeah, but he specifically said he was dodging the prod. I don't think scum would do that. I'd expect a comment on at least something to make it look like you're adding.

IDK about the too busy. Maybe he left a tab open or something, but I saw him down there at the bottom for a bit when I was going through the thread.

Tako needs to explain himself before we do anything.
Ok, I'm taking it as a null then.

:phone:
BSP, you seemed to be pushing that RR was town off his prod dodge , but you drop it rather quickly when i said it was a null tell. Why did you drop it so easily and why did you feel the need to bring it up at this point ?
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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BSp, why wouldn't you pressure him though, people don't usually slip on their own, you need to pressure the people you are suspicious of, now you say

"I don't usually put votes down in general unless someone slips up big time, we need a hammer and I'm not on said wagon, or I've found something that doesn't add up."
What sort of red flags would need to be raised for you to put him in your "lynched right now category" , also who is in that category for you at this moment ?
 

BSP

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BSP, you seemed to be pushing that RR was town off his prod dodge , but you drop it rather quickly when i said it was a null tell. Why did you drop it so easily and why did you feel the need to bring it up at this point ?
3 different people (I know you, Joker, and Kantrip) said they'd take it as a null. 3 heads are better than one, so I dropped it.

BSp, why wouldn't you pressure him though
To see if he starts doing things on his own accord before I bring up his coasting-like play.

What sort of red flags would need to be raised for you to put him in your "lynched right now category" , also who is in that category for you at this moment ?
I'd put a vote on a blatant slip-up, or if the person is being pressured and I get to the point where the dissatisfaction I get from their answers makes me fine with their lynch.

Or, as I said, I see something that doesn't add up.

In addition, why would you swap votes only to hammer if your not on the wagon ?
I didn't say anything about swapping votes. I was talking about putting a vote down to begin with.

But since you asked, assuming we're close to deadline, I wouldn't want to see the day end in a mislynch if most people think it's the right direction. Even if they're wrong, I don't think there's any case outside of MyLo where No Lynch will net town more reward than lynching someone.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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Guys, I'm fine with 194 going (didn't answer all the questions on him either) and vinyl being shot

Run the tako being shot case by me. Do we think they're neighbours and not masons?

Also, are we fine with ending this day before getting anything from toaster's slot?

I agree that 194 needs to claim

:phone:
Why did you feel the need to state this even after voting BSP ?

Eh, i could bite on Riddle for a while, but right now i am more interested in why Kantrip is riding my balls.
I'd need to read Riddle again in ISO in order to be able to make a solid decision on how i feel about his contribution.

IIRC he had some posts during my tunneling which felt like more of pile on statements than anything productive
I knew Kantrip was riding my balls this game.

Ok, I'm heading off for tonight

Don't hammer 194 until Bardull shoots. Personally, I'd prefer if some of you took your votes off until we see the shot.

@Vinyl - i think we should stop the setup speculation, but don't forget about factions.

2 v 2 v 3PRs + 5VTs isn't out
BSP< yo utoo seemed pretty interested in bardull shooting, what made you this way , beyond the cut and dry: i wanted to see bardull prove himself
 

BSP

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Why did you feel the need to state this even after voting BSP ?
I think I know what you're getting at, but let me continue.

I felt like it then.

Is there something wrong with me stating it?

BSP< yo utoo seemed pretty interested in bardull shooting, what made you this way , beyond the cut and dry: i wanted to see bardull prove himself
Because I thought that he avoided suspicion all of D1 by claiming Vig, and then suddenly he didn't want to shoot. I didn't like it, and I didn't want him to just use that gambit to go in D2.

And I really did want to see him confirm that shot. Since you said, "something beyond the cut and dry", is that bad reasoning or something?
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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no , i just wanted to see if you had anything.
Saying "i want to see x prove x" is the easiest cop out to actually answering a question ever
 

BarDulL

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that's not even "answering the question." he doesn't explain why he wanted me to prove it, he just "wanted me to prove it" for the sake of me proving it.
 

BSP

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that's not even "answering the question." he doesn't explain why he wanted me to prove it, he just "wanted me to prove it" for the sake of me proving it.
Because I thought that he avoided suspicion all of D1 by claiming Vig, and then suddenly he didn't want to shoot. I didn't like it, and I didn't want him to just use that gambit to go in D2.


You got into D2 with pretty much zero suspicion. That's why I wanted to see your shot.

I still want evidence as to how Riddle is less passive than me. I have no idea where you're getting that from.

Anyway, how exactly is Commuter a protective? You can save yourself, but you can't protect anyone else. I'm also not really seeing how Kantrip possibly seeing a commuter would make him claim Jailer.
 
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