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Social Burn With Passion!! -- Incineroar General Discussion (Formerly the Support Thread)

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This is my own thread, and I haven't been getting alerts for it. Weird.
Also, if I didn't add your name to the Support List and you want it there, let me know. :p
We've been getting a LOT of new names over the months, and it makes me glad more people are supportive of the wrestler cat.

Ey, just wanted to hop in here from the Isaac thread and show my support. Incineroar is a criminally underrated 'mon, and I wish you guys good luck tomorrow.
Coming over from the Isaac thread to wish you all good luck on getting your Pokemon tomorrow. All the cards seem to be in Incineroar's favor, and why not reveal him in a general direct where most Pokemon fans will be watching?
I would say good luck to you guys with Isaac as well for the Direct, but....
....yeah, I'm late as hell because I hadn't been getting alerts and the Direct got postponed. Whoops...
When it does air, good luck to you guys as well, and thanks for stopping by to offer your support. :)
 
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So rumors say Incineroar might be signing with Super Smash Bros Ultimate for a in ring debut.. Of all Pokemon to be in this game, Incineroar was always the one that had my support the most!
 
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Hoo boy. This guy is a hoot.

Incineroar would be a mistake. From the first concept art everybody raised their hands to Arceus as it seemed yet another boring Fire Figthing blaziken clone. and he is a blaziken clone, again being based on fighting and martial arts, only minus the fighting type for little to no reason other than trying to make him "cool and edgy" as a heel wrestler.
Sadly, the most likely smash pick of gen 7 seems to be the competitively useless, unoriginally designed and edgelord-stigma worthy Incineroar, to the despair of basically everyone.
How about instead of hiding in the Decidueye thread where even they don't care for your bull, you try actually stepping in the ring with us? :smirk:
 

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Hoo boy. This guy is a hoot.




How about instead of hiding in the Decidueye thread where even they don't care for your bull, you try actually stepping in the ring with us? :smirk:
Calling it, Falco is dressed up as Decidueye and squashed by Incineroar in his trailor lol
 

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We shouldn't talk with haters, because... It doesn't matter what they think.

Incineroar would fit into Smash, the simple fact that he's based on a heel pro wrestler is awesome.

Anyway, we should just ignore the people who are trashing him because they want another Pokemon. A Pokemon war wouldn't be interesting at all. And I don't care because i also like Decidueye.

But at the end of the day, The Pokemon Company doesn't seem to agree on the whole "Incineroar is boring" since they gave Litten to Ash.
 
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Missed something in the Decidueye thread after SSJMistery spoke
"Opossum, post: 22391749, member: 197163"]...You realize Incineroar isn't any of those things, right?
 
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Missed something in the Decidueye thread after SSJMistery spoke
Yeah, that's why I put the "where even they don't care for your bull" part. :p

If he's got nothing to say about Decidueye itself and instead only inaccurate negativities about Incineroar, he really shouldn't be posting in their thread. It's just as annoying to them as it would be to us.
At least with us, it'd be more "relevant" to the subject.
 
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We shouldn't talk with haters, because... It doesn't matter what they think.

Incineroar would fit into Smash, the simple fact that he's based on a heel pro wrestler is awesome.

Anyway, we should just ignore the people who are trashing him because they want another Pokemon. A Pokemon war wouldn't be interesting at all. And I don't care because i also like Decidueye.

But at the end of the day, The Pokemon Company doesn't seem to agree on the whole "Incineroar is boring" since they gave Litten to Ash.
All the better reason to join the Litten Club with Incineroar.. Where everything is just lit af!
 

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Yeah, that's why I put the "where even they don't care for your bull" part. :p

If he's got nothing to say about Decidueye itself and instead only inaccurate negativities about Incineroar, he really shouldn't be posting in their thread. It's just as annoying to them as it would be to us.
At least with us, it'd be more "relevant" to the subject.
Oh my bad lol, I'm tired and missing things
 

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Yeah, that's why I put the "where even they don't care for your bull" part. :p

If he's got nothing to say about Decidueye itself and instead only inaccurate negativities about Incineroar, he really shouldn't be posting in their thread. It's just as annoying to them as it would be to us.
At least with us, it'd be more "relevant" to the subject.
He's just a hater, look at his messages, he trashed Meowth too. :laugh:
People who are trashing characters 24/7 are "competitively useless, unoriginally designed and edgelord, to the despair of basically everyone. "
Better ignore him, really.
 
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I'm curious as to why yuse guyz want Incineroar when we already have Charizard and Greninja. Nothing against the big fiery furball but I'd like to see a new Pokemon type represented in Smash.

We still have 5 types yet to be playable:
Ghost
Rock
Ground
Bug
Ice
And unless you count mega Charizard X, Dragon.

I want to see one of those types~
 
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I'm curious as to why yuse guyz want Incineroar when we already have Charizard and Greninja. Nothing against the big fiery furball but I'd like to see a new Pokemon type represented in Smash.

We still have 5 types yet to be playable:
Ghost
Rock
Ground
Bug
Ice
And unless you count mega Charizard X, Dragon.

I want to see one of those types~
Because whatever "Type" the Pokémon is classified as really means nothing in Smash, especially when they have nothing to do with how the Pokémon's moveset works (do you see Greninja with any Dark moves? Jigglypuff with Fairy? Ivysaur with Poison? Lucario with Steel? etc.).
It's what the Pokémon can do that matters. And we don't have any Pokémon (or Smash fighter for that matter) that encompasses the staple Grappler archetype in fighting games.
 

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I'm curious as to why yuse guyz want Incineroar when we already have Charizard and Greninja. Nothing against the big fiery furball but I'd like to see a new Pokemon type represented in Smash.

We still have 5 types yet to be playable:
Ghost
Rock
Ground
Bug
Ice
And unless you count mega Charizard X, Dragon.

I want to see one of those types~
Pokemon typing is only cosmetic in Smash and really doesn't add anything aside from different visuals or "representation." 'Roar's types may already be included, but it's its wrestling abilities and strong heel persona that will lend more to a unique fighter.

Hoo boy. This guy is a hoot.




How about instead of hiding in the Decidueye thread where even they don't care for your bull, you try actually stepping in the ring with us? :smirk:
Eh, I've heard it all before. When it's not "sausage fingers," "ceral mascot," "b-bara..." It's some other petty insult thrown out there. You just learn to deal with it and enjoy Incineroar getting big parts in the movie and anime, unique TCG cards, all the best tutor moves and Hidden Ability, and being a favorite of one of head guys at Gamefreak. The irony of his statement is that Incineroar has been dominating the competitive scene for months now including holding the very top spot at VGC during the summer, hardly what anyone would call " competitively useless."
 

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Those are all good points actually. The type doesn't always dominate the moveset or appeal.. What makes you so sure Incineroar will be a grappler character though? That would be a nice change of pace if he were but we don't know for sure do we?
 

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I'm curious as to why yuse guyz want Incineroar when we already have Charizard and Greninja.
He's inspired by pro wrestling. He does a moonsault and destroys his opponents with a lariat. That's enough for me to love him.
Sure, there's Pokemons among the types you said that i would like to see playable, but they're not from Gen 7 and since I don't believe that we can get a Pokemon that is not from the newest generation, Incineroar is my most wanted.

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Those are all good points actually. The type doesn't always dominate the moveset or appeal.. What makes you so sure Incineroar will be a grappler character though? That would be a nice change of pace if he were but we don't know for sure do we?
Since he's inspired by pro wrestling, not giving him a grappling moveset would feel like a wasted opportunity.
 
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He's inspired by pro wrestling. Since he's inspired by pro wrestling, not giving him a grappling moveset would feel like a wasted opportunity.
I agree it would be a waste but then again we have a character like Ganondorf who has a plethora of unique moves to choose from all his games over the years and he continues to be treated as a semi-clone of capn falcon. Sakurai doesn't always make the most inspired of decisions..
 
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I agree it would be a waste but then again we have a character like Ganondorf who has a plethora of unique moves to choose from all his games over the years and he continues to be treated as a semi-clone of capn falcon. Sakurai doesn't always make the most inspired of decisions..
Older characters rarely get drastic touch-ups once they are established into Smash.
Incineroar is a brand new fighter.
 

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Wait. All this talk of how Incineroar is inspired by pro wrestling. I just got your title underneath your name: InCENAroar. John CENA?
That's genius ^^

I forgot how to change my own title years ago. The function seems to be gone for me lol
 

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I agree it would be a waste but then again we have a character like Ganondorf who has a plethora of unique moves to choose from all his games over the years and he continues to be treated as a semi-clone of capn falcon. Sakurai doesn't always make the most inspired of decisions..
I think that Ganondorf is just an anamoly from the past to be honest. I don't see Sakurai waste a great moveset potential again.
Sad that his only big waste was one of the greatest villains of Nintendo's history.

Oh my god, i didn't see the "InCENAroar" too, yeah, that's genius ! :laugh:
 
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Wait. All this talk of how Incineroar is inspired by pro wrestling. I just got your title underneath your name: InCENAroar. John CENA?
That's genius ^^

I forgot how to change my own title years ago. The function seems to be gone for me lol
It's exclusive to Premium users, sadly.

So I will forever be "InCENAroar" even when I change my avi to something not Incineroar related. :p
 

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Fire wrestler cat grew on me over time in the Pokemon world. I picked Popplio to be honest, but I ended up picking up a Litten via trading and training him as well. Torracat was always one that I liked quite a bit, but I wasn't as sold on the other two. But now? I did a run through all 800+ Pokemon and picked out 50 favorites and the Litten line made it in that. Litten is adorable in the anime. And Incineroar is just very expressive and lively. Something that holds back Pokemon like Chandelure or Marowak for me is they generally don't have much personality. Incineroar has it in spades even from his early concept artwork. With Mimikyu out of the running, I have drifted to Incineroar as someone I support. I kind of hope the Gardevoir and Gothitelle rumor is true as well. Be pretty awesome to have every gen represented. But if I had to pick of the three, I'd go with Incineroar.


I'm curious as to why yuse guyz want Incineroar when we already have Charizard and Greninja. Nothing against the big fiery furball but I'd like to see a new Pokemon type represented in Smash.

We still have 5 types yet to be playable:
Ghost
Rock
Ground
Bug
Ice
And unless you count mega Charizard X, Dragon.

I want to see one of those types~
Others already touched on it not mattering a whole lot in the end, It'd be nice though in ways. But,

I love Ghost Pokemon quite a bit.

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But there's almost no chance of any of them making it in besides one that annoys me. Decidueye is part Ghost. And while I don't hate the Pokemon itself, I hate that he is part Ghost. There's a clear difference between 99% of the Ghost cast and Decidueye... it's that he doesn't look anything like a Ghost Pokemon and I tend to forget he even is part of my favorite Type cause literally nothing about him makes me think of the ghouls I came to love.

He's just edgy archer boy.


I agree it would be a waste but then again we have a character like Ganondorf who has a plethora of unique moves to choose from all his games over the years and he continues to be treated as a semi-clone of capn falcon. Sakurai doesn't always make the most inspired of decisions..
This logic could also apply to Dixie, Isaac, Ashley, or literally anyone though. Characters may have potential, but the end result can be anything.


Hoo boy. This guy is a hoot.

How about instead of hiding in the Decidueye thread where even they don't care for your bull, you try actually stepping in the ring with us? :smirk:
I think the Smash community hyped itself up on the bird cause it was the "obvious" addition. I recall pretty much anyone else was shot down quickly and dismissed as inferior. That all deflated thanks to Ivysaur's return. But there's still some pretty jaded people in regards to Decidueye not only taking a hit in being the most likely, but he also took a huge hit in popularity. In truth, both Incineroar and Primarina are more popular than Decidueye. The bird's main claim to fame was Pokken and people hyping him up for Smash cause "Pokken Important" and "Grass Starter." He never was the most popular, Rowlet holds that's line's popularity alone.

But ya, I see people trying to tear down the ones popping up now (Lycanroc, Incineroar, and Mimikyu before deconfirmation) making what Decidueye's support base looking more Poison Type as of late even though the bird still has a chance.
 
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Let's not throw shade at the Decidueye supporters over this. It's just the one guy that even they are calling out in their thread.

Also bear in mind that among those that go tearing down Incineroar also include the fanbases of Lycanroc and Mimikyu, not JUST Decidueye.
 

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I'm a Decidueye supporter and I think Incineroar would be a great choice.
 

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Hey guys, since Incineroar would be based on pro wrestling, what do you think his grab attacks should be ?

Personally speaking, I would love to see moves like the Powerbomb (Zangief style), a back body drop (up), belly to belly overhead suplex (behind him) and a huge shoulder block to launch his opponent (forward)

I'm a Decidueye supporter and I think Incineroar would be a great choice.
Thanks ! I just came to the Decidueye thread to say the same thing about the archer ! ;)
 
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Hey guys, since Incineroar would be based on pro wrestling, what do you think his grab attacks should be ?

Personally speaking, I would love to see moves like the Powerbomb (Zangief style), a back body drop (up), belly to belly overhead suplex (behind him) and a huge shoulder block to launch his opponent (forward)
The "Tiger Swing" is a must.
 

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Count me i as a supporter too. Apart from Marx (whose chances are much much lower) Incineroar is, for now, the only one I'm interested in becoming playable.

I believe people who call Incineroar "edgy" don't know the pokemon at all. I think he is boisterous, he wants the public's attention, everyone looking at him, even if it's by being hated. That's the opposite of edgy to me.
 

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He's inspired by pro wrestling. He does a moonsault and destroys his opponents with a lariat. .
My inner wrestling fanboy will never understand why Game Freak (at least on the english version) decided to call his Z-move a "Moonsault" when it's clearly (or at least closer to) a 450 Splash lol

Also, I'm not much into the "grappler" moveset idea ('cause I'm usually not good with them lol), I'd prefer him being really good with the regular throws and his Specials being based on moves from the game.
 
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Wait, so Decidueye and Incenaroar supporters are mad at each other?
Primarina confirmed?
But seriously, why?
 

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Yeah, that's why I put the "where even they don't care for your bull" part. :p

If he's got nothing to say about Decidueye itself and instead only inaccurate negativities about Incineroar, he really shouldn't be posting in their thread. It's just as annoying to them as it would be to us.
At least with us, it'd be more "relevant" to the subject.
I really didn't expect that from Opossum. Isn't he even on the support list? Incineroar has been getting a lot of hate tho. But yeah. They hyped it up way too much.
Fire wrestler cat grew on me over time in the Pokemon world. I picked Popplio to be honest, but I ended up picking up a Litten via trading and training him as well. Torracat was always one that I liked quite a bit, but I wasn't as sold on the other two. But now? I did a run through all 800+ Pokemon and picked out 50 favorites and the Litten line made it in that. Litten is adorable in the anime. And Incineroar is just very expressive and lively. Something that holds back Pokemon like Chandelure or Marowak for me is they generally don't have much personality. Incineroar has it in spades even from his early concept artwork. With Mimikyu out of the running, I have drifted to Incineroar as someone I support. I kind of hope the Gardevoir and Gothitelle rumor is true as well. Be pretty awesome to have every gen represented. But if I had to pick of the three, I'd go with Incineroar.


Others already touched on it not mattering a whole lot in the end, It'd be nice though in ways. But,

I love Ghost Pokemon quite a bit.

But there's almost no chance of any of them making it in besides one that annoys me. Decidueye is part Ghost. And while I don't hate the Pokemon itself, I hate that he is part Ghost. There's a clear difference between 99% of the Ghost cast and Decidueye... it's that he doesn't look anything like a Ghost Pokemon and I tend to forget he even is part of my favorite Type cause literally nothing about him makes me think of the ghouls I came to love.
I think the ghost typing was given to Decidueye with how owls are usually associated with night time and how they mysteriously act.
Let's not throw shade at the Decidueye supporters over this. It's just the one guy that even they are calling out in their thread.

Also bear in mind that among those that go tearing down Incineroar also include the fanbases of Lycanroc and Mimikyu, not JUST Decidueye.
For me, I just never seen a bandwagon like that before. Mimikyu was constantly dismissed, not just on Smashboards, YouTube and Reddit. I was dissful but it didn't matter because Decidueye WAS the default.
 
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I agree it would be a waste but then again we have a character like Ganondorf who has a plethora of unique moves to choose from all his games over the years and he continues to be treated as a semi-clone of capn falcon. Sakurai doesn't always make the most inspired of decisions..
One thing to keep in mind is Ganondorf was added to Melee at the last minute; so to get him in on time, they had to cut corners, hence the clone moveset. Since Ganon was established with a moveset, when he returned in Brawl, and later games, he wasn't changed to avoid alienating those who enjoyed him in the previous titles. If they planned to add him earlier and had time to make him unique, it saved him for a later game when they would have the time/planning, we wouldn't have Falcondorf. As for Incineroar, I believe it would have been planned and worked on ahead of time for this game (Pokemon is a high priority for Nintendo), if it's even in, so the chance of a slapdash clone isn't as likely.

Wait, so Decidueye and Incenaroar supporters are mad at each other?
Primarina confirmed?
But seriously, why?
It's been going on since before Sun and Moon even came out. I think it mostly stems from some really zelous Decidueye fans expecting it to be the next Greninja and dumping on the other two starters combined with a large amount of butthurt over Incineroar's design and it not becoming one of the many fanmade evolutions floating about the 'net. Then, as time went on, jaded Incineroar fans started fighting back which in turn riled up more "owlbros" until each side built up a reputation of hating the other side. Mix in some false flaggers stirring up the pot for giggles, sprinkle in salt over the "special treatment" 'Roar has gotten from Gamefreak, and it's kinda become a meme at this point.

I'm a Decidueye supporter and I think Incineroar would be a great choice.
I think, in reality, most on either side hold no real ill toward the other. It's more of the meme of cats vs owls that perpetuate this "fued."

I really didn't expect that from Opossum. Isn't he even on the support list? Incineroar has been getting a lot of hate tho. But yeah. They hyped it up way too much.
From what I got from it, he was correcting the naysayer's statement and letting him know that Incineroar isn't "competitively useless, unoriginally designed and edgelord-stigma worthy."
 
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“Decidueye vs Incineroar”
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Oh boy, are you guys in flame war territory right now? I don’t think it’s really the best to start going all out against each other for who’s better than the other arguements. We all have our personal preferences.

Also, I posted here once about a month ago and now I’m getting notifications from this thread. It’s been a while since this place got traction.
 

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“Decidueye vs Incineroar”
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Oh boy, are you guys in flame war territory right now? I don’t think it’s really the best to start going all out against each other for who’s better than the other arguements. We all have our personal preferences.

Also, I posted here once about a month ago and now I’m getting notifications from this thread. It’s been a while since this place got traction.
*clapping noises*
 

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“Decidueye vs Incineroar”
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Oh boy, are you guys in flame war territory right now? I don’t think it’s really the best to start going all out against each other for who’s better than the other arguements. We all have our personal preferences.

Also, I posted here once about a month ago and now I’m getting notifications from this thread. It’s been a while since this place got traction.
It's always been silly and fortunately the "shots" fired are few and far between here. I don't think anyone in this thread are really looking to shoot down any other character or fan base. For the most part, denizens of Smashboards has been very respectful and polite.

The fighting between the two fan bases has been going on for years elsewhere with Smash appearing to be the the latest battleground. Though I still stand by my belief that most of it is memeing at this point.

Also, hooray for Michael Jackson. Seeing that pic always brings a smile to my face.
 
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I really didn't expect that from Opossum. Isn't he even on the support list? Incineroar has been getting a lot of hate tho.
Just because my preference lies with the owl doesn't mean I hate Incineroar. :p

Honestly I really like all three Alola starters. Alola and Sinnoh are actually the only regions where I love all three, since there's usually at least one per region I'm not a fan of for one reason or another.
 

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Just because my preference lies with the owl doesn't mean I hate Incineroar. :p

Honestly I really like all three Alola starters. Alola and Sinnoh are actually the only regions where I love all three, since there's usually at least one per region I'm not a fan of for one reason or another.
MacDaddyNook already corrected me, dude. Your cool.
 

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Moving away from all that and to a more positive topic...

We know newcomers get Amiibos, should Incineroar get in, what kind of pose would you like the Amiibo to have? Something that suits its smug/threatening nature, or maybe a certain wrestling pose?
 
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Moving away from all that and to a more positive topic...

We know newcomers get Amiibos, should Incineroar get in, what kind of pose would you like the Amiibo to have? Something that suits its smug/threatening nature, or maybe a certain wrestling pose?
I'd say something like this:

 

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Moving away from all that and to a more positive topic...

We know newcomers get Amiibos, should Incineroar get in, what kind of pose would you like the Amiibo to have? Something that suits its smug/threatening nature, or maybe a certain wrestling pose?
I’d like him clawing the air
 

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Count me in as a supporter. 2 years ago, I wasn't a fan of Incineroar. In fact, I didn't like any of the Alolan starters back then, but the heel tiger's grown on me through his various appearances in the anime and some cool art. I also imagine Sakurai is going to do so much justice to him if gets in.
 
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