Bug found - Bug removed!

[Takeshi245]

And competitive players will still beat you. Why? More dedication and having the stronger will to win instead of having a mindset that holds them back like you do.

 

[ZombieBite]

And competitive players will still beat you. Why? More dedication and having the stronger will to win instead of having a mindset that holds them back like you do.

Sounds like they're turning to the dark side.

 

[Takeshi245]

Sounds like they're turning to the dark side.

Yes because using morals in a video game instead of using it in real life sure does help professionals win matches, right? (sarcasm) Where are the moderators when you need them?

 

[Dark.Pch]

You're one of them queers, right?

I'm not you.

And thus, my point is proven. you were already ended a few pages back noob. I think you just want attention. Cause your a player who sucks at smash and I bet you get owned so bad cause of wave dashing. Maybe if you stop running to people with attacks and make it obvious, you would not fall for a wavedash and leave yourself open.

I'm done here, your a loser, a crybaby, and a weak player. now, I'll sit back and watch this thread get closed, and your prob making this thread to get your post count up since your new and a noob. Use your post to learn about this game or GTFO and stick to items. Respond back to me with a dumb post or insult if you wish. I already ended you so I have no need to respond back to a loser. good day.

*unsubscribes*

 

[2007]

Oh sweet Jesus I can't wait for Brawl, and yunno why? Besides the obvious tons of characters and stages and improved gameplay, they fixed some annoying bugs in Melee that allowed people, who exploited them, to have an advantage in battle against those who didn't exploit them.

I can't wait to beat down some wavedashers who can't get a grip on how the game is actually played until I teach them first hand online. They'll be like "but wuuuuuuuuh? i cant move twice as fast and chain simple air moves over and over again into ridiculous combos deeeeeeruuuuuuuuh???"

This'll be fun.

Hmmm.. joined October 2007. sounds like a n00b to me...
BTW, my Pikachu will ground you. good luck trying any combos.
Ken's Peach theory FTW.
=2007=

 

[Takeshi245]

Don't worry, Dark Pch. Eventually this guy will be tore to shreds by someone who has more skill and a better mindset. Pride comes before a fall...

 

[Foe]

Hmmm.. joined October 2007. sounds like a n00b to me...
BTW, my Pikachu will ground you. good luck trying any combos.
Ken's Peach theory FTW.
=2007=

You really shouldn't judge by join dates..

You joined recently too.

 

[ZombieBite]

I'm into you.

And thus, my point is proven. you were already enticed a few pages back stud. I think you just want attention. Cause your a person who sucks and I bet you get ***** so bad cause of azz thrashing. Maybe if you stop running to people with no pants and make it obvious, you would not fall for an azz thrash and leave yourself open.

Jesus dude.

 

[2007]

You really shouldn't judge by join dates..

You joined recently too.

I Know, but I'm not like ZOMG! WDing removed I'm so so so so so so so so happy!!!!!111111

I was actually, (somewhat ironically) disappointed.
The reason his join date was brought up was because everyone I've seen so far that says "YAYZ0RZZZZ Wavedashing is gone, you pros are going to sux in BRAWLLLZZZ!!!!" has had a similar, if not identical, join date (ranging from Sep to Oct 2007). they obviously don't now too much about the game. nonetheless, there ARE exceptions...

just a thought.

all in all,
in loving memory...
WD: 12-3-01--2-10-08


=2007=

 

[ElvishSpirit]

hmmm.................Im neutral. I not exactly a wave-dashing fan, but yet I like compeitive play/mindgames.

THat chart is cool. I'm probibly an above average, cause I can wavedash, L-cancel, etc.

 

[ElvishSpirit]

Jesus dude.

XD you are gay. U edit his text to be cool, right? Just leave the forums, you seem like another Luke Groundwalker in progress.

 

[Ixninjax]

Actually, probably 95 percent of ppl who joined due to brawl coming out don't know much about competitive smash. Now when was the first brawl news released...?

 

[Rex+]

You were already ended a few pages back noob.

I personally believe this thread ended somewhere around page 11 with the following statement;

No WDing =/= Higher Chances of Victory
​

 

[Brockman5]

Look zombie...if you don't use advanced techniques, and you play casual then that's fine..
but if you ever want to be good and hold a chance against people who do use them...then you should learn them..

You can still be good withouth them but you have to shutup and think about what you'll do before you do it...My brother uses marth and he doesnt use hardly any advanced techniques and he can still hold his own against me as falco with advanced techniques.

So don't complain when people whoop your ***....

 

[ZombieBite]

I personally believe this thread ended somewhere around page 11 with the following statement;

Hah, nice little self promotion there. And if WDing increases the chances of victory at all, then that little gem of yours is incorrect. Think wavedashing increases the chances of victory at all?

 

[Gimpyfish62]

hahahahahahahahahahah @ the first post in this thread

time to actualy post

wavedashing on its own doesn't really do much, proper application of a wavedash opens up more options for your character, more speed, more defense, and more varitey overall.

NOT wavedashing is only limiting yourself, you CAN be successful without wavedashing of course, the main thing about this game is intelligent gameplay with a proper application of tech skill, and wavedashing is just that, technical skill.

a lot of the "wavedashers" you refer to are actually not very good at the game because they likely emphasize tech skill over intelligent gameplay.

this topic is absurd, brawl plays nothing like melee whatsoever, its not melee 2.0 with no wavedash anymore

wavedashing made sense with melee's wavedash, and it doesn't make sense with brawl's wavedash, so there ya go

 

[Brockman5]

It only does if you know how to do it and when to do it....But if you outsmart your opponent you can beat them without it..

 

[ZombieBite]

Look zombie...if you don't use advanced techniques, and you play casual then that's fine..
but if you ever want to be good and hold a chance against people who do use them...then you should learn them..

The only advanced technique I have cited was wavedashing and my reaction to it not being in the game. Have I said anything about any other form of advanced playing? There is really no reason to even discuss wavedashing anymore considering the BUG WAS FIXED.

 

[SirPenguin]

To properly understand such techniques as wavedashing, you need to break it down, and take the player's skill OUT of it. Because, quite frankly, WD itself won't win a game, but it will augment someone's skills to the point that it would be above that of an equal skilled opponent that doesn't use WD.

Simple as that. It's useful, not required, but it'll help you gain an edge.

Yes, non-WDers can beat WDers, yes, it's player skill that amounts to a winner at the end of the day. WD won't win you the race, but it will provide comfy shoes for you to wear, which, in turn, will help you win said race.

 

[TheMastermind]

Your a complete idiot, all the people who took the time to learn the advanced tecniques,
would easy beat you with or without them. You have alot to learn, and obviously your not good enough
to learn the new advanced tecniques that are being put into brawl.

Most of this community will crush you for the noob you really are.

 

[2007]

The easiest way to beat someone is to unplug their controller.

The 2nd easiest way is to best them by exploiting their waeknesses. Advanced techniques help this a lot, but aren't absolutely essential, like Brockman said.
to generalize though,
using advanced techniuqes > not using advanced techniques

=2007=

 

[cF=)]

srsly guys :D let's all make love

 

[TheOfficialSonicFanboy]

Yes. Wavedashing, in melee, helps most people obtain victory.
Honestly. I don't like to flame people so I'll try to keep it to a minimum:
Shut up. Seriously. That was Melee. It doesn't matter what comes out in Brawl, anyone who plays against you in Melee that are proficient in the advanced techniques will school you if you don't use any of the techniques. And it is not fair for you to flame people who spent a decent amount of time getting good at that game competitively.
Brawl looks like an entirely different game. So... let's not talk about how good you will be until it comes out and have your head passed back to you on a platter a few times for getting cocky. M'kay?

 

[Monshou_no_Nazo]

I don't think this is really a matter of winning or losing. The topic creator simply wanted to offend everyone, and deep down probably feels very good about it.

I think the true reason that pros are disappointed in Wavedashing no longer working isn't because it caters to casual players (after all, there will be other Advanced techniques to be discovered), but because it causes people like ZombieBite to come in and start mocking and laughing everyone, which can be very annoying.

 

[Brockman5]

What are you talking about sonic...?

Thanks 2007 thats what I was trying to say and then Zombie couln't comprehend the entirety of my post....

 

[Jammer]

How Did This Thread Get To 16 Pages?
Look At The First Post!
How?​

 

[ZombieBite]

Thanks 2007 thats what I was trying to say and then Zombie couln't comprehend the entirety of my post....

Yeah, I'm obviously missing the point by sticking to wavedashing and ignoring the other (irrelevant in this discussion) advanced techniques.

But hey, look at this:

 

[ZombieBite]

How Did This Thread Get To 16 Pages?
Look At The First Post!
How?​

I know, right?

 

[2007]

@Brockman: that is most likely because he doesn't comprehend advanced techniques.

no problem, dude.

=2007=

 

[Monshou_no_Nazo]

I don't think this is really a matter of winning or losing. The topic creator simply wanted to offend everyone, and deep down probably feels very good about it.

I think the true reason that pros are disappointed in Wavedashing no longer working isn't because it caters to casual players (after all, there will be other Advanced techniques to be discovered), but because it causes people like ZombieBite to come in and start mocking and laughing everyone, which can be very annoying.

Ten chars.

 

[Andromeda]

This topic is pointless. Whatever people say, Zombieguy won't listen because he's trapped in his own conviction. He can't be convinced with words alone. Only a practical experience will help.

Just learn to wavedash already, and everyone will be happy. I guarantee it.

 

[TheOfficialSonicFanboy]

All I was really trying to say is :
-Brawl is a different game.
-Someone who knows Advanced Techniques is still quite good without them
-Melee is the same game and the Techniques will still be used.
Sorry for anyone else I confused.
And I'm sick of this argument too. Let's all just be friends...

 

[Seikishidan Soru]

And no, I shouldn't be forced to learn how to wavedash to combat wavedashers. Wavedashers will now have to learn how to not wavedash to combat me. Which is how it should be.

Explain why this "is how it should be".
All I can say (and all that matters) is that that's how it is.

And now the developers have noticed it and removed it. What does that tell you about wavedashing?

It tells me that it's in Melee and out of Brawl. I will use it in Melee and not in Brawl.
And if you actually believe that people will need more than a few matches even against level 9 CPU to adjust to the new physics and mechanics of Brawl, you're clearly being delusional. These are brains in our heads, not bricks.

 

[GaryCXJk]

You don't need to know how to wavedash in order to be good - Aniki, the most famous Link user in Japan, doesn't wavedash at all. Knowing how to do techniques doesn't make you good - it's learning how to read your opponent and punish them for it. Granted, knowing techniques opens up more windows for punishing, but you can always just play someone with a quick, powerful move and use the said move every time you can punish your opponent.

And remember kids:

Should I add "when you get beat" below the text?

 

[pablovirus]

Who ****ing cares if you are happy that WD is gone in Brawl? Erase this thread

 

[Zephyr]

No, the 2nd easiest way to beat someone is to knock their controller out of their hand and up-smash them while they're still scrambling to pick it back up. =D

But seriously. I play competitively, I use advanced techs in Melee. It's hella fun to do so. I place pretty well in tournaments. But I tell you this-

I could beat you limited to only using Fox's f-tilt. No grabs, I can shield, but the only attack I would be allowed is F-tilt. Oh, and let's take out wavedashing just for kicks. You know why I would destroy you?

I have mindgames.

(I've done this to people like you before, BTW. Beat them without wavedashing and just f-tilts. Pretty **** satisfying.)

Get mindgames or leave.

 

[GaryCXJk]

No, the 2nd easiest way to beat someone is to knock their controller out of their hand and up-smash them while they're still scrambling to pick it back up. =D

But seriously. I play competitively, I use advanced techs in Melee. It's hella fun to do so. I place pretty well in tournaments. But I tell you this-

I could beat you limited to only using Fox's f-tilt. No grabs, I can shield, but the only attack I would be allowed is F-tilt. Oh, and let's take out wavedashing just for kicks. You know why I would destroy you?

I have mindgames.

(I've done this to people like you before, BTW. Beat them without wavedashing and just f-tilts. Pretty **** satisfying.)

Get mindgames or leave.

There you have the no johns example.

 

[nublet06]

you guys are all forgetting that you wont even have to do any moves against this guy. because he plays with items on and you can just kill him with those XD

 

[Zephyr]

That's true! I could just use items against him! And then when he starts calling those cheap (because he will) I'll turn items off and crush the way I do best! =P

 

[Legolastom]

It would be funny if the world was the other way around were scrubs used WD'ing and pro's used items (While scrubs called them cheap).

I can actually see that though...