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BrawlCentral Whobby Info!

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BrawlCentral is updating its website with quite a bit of info at a reasonably fast pace, most of it pertaining to King Dedede and Pokemon Trainer. Since I can't find a topic for it, I'm putting all the info here and will update it whenever he does. Bold ones are new.

EDIT:There has been a rumor of a female Pokemon Trainer costume going around. This is false.

TONS OF NEW UPDATES!


-Link tried to FS an opponent who had a Starman and it failed. One time during Kirby's FS, Starmen were launched from the pot. The enemies used the Starmen and ended up KO'ing Kirby.
-Waddle Dees are better than turnips in terms of knockback and damage. Dedede's Suction spits out fast, but not very far and has low damage.

- Samus cannot missle cancel. Peach can float cancel.
- More reports of Dedede being very slow with fast atacks, but a conflicting report of his Waddle Dees being useful and spammable.
- More PT Impressions: Charizard's has multiple jumps and his Fly is powerful. He flies straight up and burns anything around him. His flamethrower is identical to Bowser's Fire Breath. Squirtle's Water Gun is chargable. Ivysaur is immobile while using Bullet Seed. PT's FInal Smash is very powerful.
- The PictoChat stage sometimes has impenetrable walls and can trap you on a side of the stage.
- DK's Final Smash used correctly can take up 90% of a stage. His FS was originally thought to be ineffective.
- Some people worry that the Smash Ball occurs too much.
- Rumors of Black Charizard. Some suggest a very dark Chrarizard that is near-black.
- PT Impressions: Squirtle has fast attacks, but no reach. Ivysaur is the more balanced of the Pokemon. Charizard is heavy, slow-medium speed, and attacks using claws and tail mostly.
- Pokemon trainer's starting Pokemon is random. So far, it's unconfirmed if the starter can be selectable like Shiek was for Zelda in Melee.
- Dragoon does 42% damage. It KO'd Mario at 0%.
- Lots of Invincibility frames when switching Pokemon.
- Dedede's Suction is beastly because of it's force and strength.
- Ike is being called a noob killer. His Side Special charged can KO Kirby and Meta Knight at 35%. He is being called "too powerful".
- Meta Knight is a good beginner character.
- Ike Impressions: Eruption has a lot of range and can be used in the air. His Final Smash has more range if you "charge it up"?
- Ashley Deconfirmed! She appears in the WarioWare stage. So does 9-Volt and Jimmy.
- Kirby Impressions: Final Cutter has been changed once again. More confirmation of Kirby sucking up items.
- Attendee's Opinion: Pictochat music was bothering.
- Dedede Impressions: Attacks are fast, but hammer is sluggish. As stated before, his Up Special has good knockback, but is completely vertical, like Ike's.
- Pokemon Trainer Impressions: Takes about three seconds to change Pokemon. Colors: Red, Green, Blue, and Black & White (original GB version). PT's Pokemon do not have accessories like hats, glasses, ect.
- First reports of an attendee: He writes about Samus, but adds nothing new to what we already knew. You can't turn into ZSamus at the start of the match at all.
- Now that the event is over, expect lots of media, and some new info to be posted from attendees.
- We have the Stage Select Screen image posted on the homepage.
- Conflicting News: Apparently, a Nintendo rep has confirmed that Brawl is coming out on the 24th in Japan, however the Brawl pamphlets handed out show the price of the game, but no release date. (According to the Japanese blog, this seems to frighten him, but I doubt it means a thing.)
- Muddy Mole is an assist trophy. (Not Monty Mole) Muddy Mole is a character from "Mole Mania", a GB game that Sakurai adores.
- People are under the impression that Meta Knight is very good and Dedede is not. (This is only first impressions that are hours old and opinions, keep in mind)
-King Dedede has the same voice as his anime counterpart. (Japanese voice. Not 4kids voice)

-There is a 70-80 minute wait per match. Yikes.
-Ike Victory Pose: "I only fight for those I protect" (May be off due to translation issues)
-Onett impressions: Virtually no changes made.
-PictoChat impressions: Some are negative, some are "better than expected."
-PLAYABLE STAGES: Battlefield, Battleship Halberd, Norfair, Hyrule Temple, Onett, WarioWare, PictoChat, Bridge of Eldin, Delfino Plaza, Yoshi's Story, Smashville, Castle Siege, Pokemon Stadium 2, Skyworld, and Lylat Cruise
-Dragoon was seen as an item. There are also a few new items such as a time bomb and spike bomb.
-Classic Controller and Wiimote are available controller choices.
-ON Meta Knight: No strong attacks. He's the kind of character that relies on multiple hits. FS is very strong and has a wide hitbox. Not much use for gliding. Taunt: Flaps his wings and does a "warp" or some sort.
-On Diddy Kong: He's very fast and can "put hurt on you." He has combo attacks, similar to Meta Knight.
-NO MORE DELAYS: According to someone to who asked a Nintendo rep there: Brawl is -confirmed to be released on the 24th. (Japan)
-Pokemon Trainer disappears on certain stages. He was not present on Delfino Plaza.
-New Pokemon: Shaymin
-UNCONFIRMED: Pokemon trainer's starting appearance is him running to a stop and taunting.
-Item Selection is ON. Smash Balls can be turned off.
-King Dedede has a pink costume.
- Dedede is a heavy, slow, powerful character. He has 4 mid-air jumps (5 total jumps). His Waddle Dee throwing attack is weak. His Up Special has good knockback.
-Dedede's starting appearance is the Waddle Dee Shrine seen on the Dojo.
-Pokemon Trainer and King Dedede Playable! They appear as "Dedede" and "P. Trainer"
-The Brawl game available is a demo, however, it is a new one.
-Photography IS allowed, but only in certain areas.


WHOBBY PLAYABLE CHARACTERS:
Mario
DK
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Diddy Kong
Meta Knight
Pokemon Trainer
Ike
Peach
Yoshi
King Dedede
Bowser
Wario




This is Shaymin:


This is Muddy Mole:
 

Geos88

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Pokemon Trainer disappears? That seems lazy. I can see them doing this on Rumble Falls, but the plaza? Hmmmm, well doest matter to me, not maining him.
 

The_Corax_King

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shweet.

P Trainer? ewww....

well i guess its like C Falcon, but that sounds much cooler than pee trainer. Who trains pee?
I guess you could name a toddler potty training thing that...

Or like a training diaper...


anyway........


It seems odd to me that PT doesn't appear on soem stages...

How will the pokemon switch then? I guess they'll just go back without him doing anything...
 

Eagle

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Why is everyone blwoing up over a pokeball? It's an item?!?!?!
Because if you were a Pokemon fan you would know. . .

That Shaymin is an unreleased Pokemon, and that the only way to obtain one is through a hacking device.

Shaymin is cool.

(Although. . . I havn't played Pokemon since August, so maybe it has been released ;P)
 

M.K

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The thing you have to learn about all these:

Mew, Celebi, Shaymin: All legendaries with BASE 100 stats (in other words, above average stats in Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed)
 

IceClimbersUser1

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its cool that P. Trainer finally gets some attention, maybe we will see some vids of him (does photograpy also mean u can record stuff too?), and this demo has 16 characters in it! which i think is two more then E for All and Jump, will that mean new stages will be shown? kind of sux PT disappears
 

SJAK47

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Isn't this just another Demo? The Pokemon Trainer might be in the background for the real thing, no?
 

amost

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my crap translations skills attempted to read something in the 2ch thread:

Ike's victory: "I only fight for those I should protect" and "Using descretion, I'm not so nice" or something.
 

supersonicdjs

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But... If the Pokemon Trainer dissapears on moving stages, why is he in Rumble Falls in this picture?

 

The Qu

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But... If the Pokemon Trainer dissapears on moving stages, why is he in Rumble Falls in this picture?

Because that may be in the beginning of the level. As the level scrolls, he may dissapear.
Is Pink Dedede from anything? It sounds like it is...
Are the two new bomb items Smash items or from older games?
Anybody know what Shaymin does?
Thanks in advance!:)
 

Demontree

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Yes! A new demo, and new stages! Wow. All these updates are coming soo fast! Can't wait till tomorrow morning! there will be sooo much! This is good and all but awww no Pit vids... I want to see his down-b used in an actual fight. Not the little animation from the SSE with Mario. I look forward to playing in hyrule with all te new characters.
 

maxpower1227

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So this is supposed to be going on Jan 13 in Japan? So that would be.... right now? I demand that pictures and video start flowing in immediately!
 

Ridley22

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Sounds the Americans (yes I'm american) got srewed over. But I can't wait to see if there's videos.
 

Thi0s

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At the time of this post it is Sunday, January 13, 2008 at 1:32:09 PM in Japan.

That means theres like 6 hours before it ends! I can't wait to see what info we manage to get!
 

Lemon Drop

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Suprising that Shaymin was first OFFICIALLY revealed to the Pokemon Public through Brawl :O Were not most to know about it yet.
 

Zevox

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Isn't this just another Demo? The Pokemon Trainer might be in the background for the real thing, no?
Unlikely. Remember we're only a week and a half from the game's release in Japan. I can't imagine why a demo used now would be from a buggy or incomplete version of the game when it absolutely has to have gone gold by now to be ready for the release.

Zevox
 

Xpressions X

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guys why are you so upset about pt disappearing on some stages? I dont get it it only makes sense I mean the dude cant fly.
 

Nicktendo

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Which moves of Dedede's come out fast, how much lag is there after aerials/smash attacks, all these questions need answering.
Yeah we've gotten barely nothing so far, hopefully some videos of him will be up tomorrow, or alot more detailed info atleast. Saying hes "slow and strong and heavy" tells nothing... that we didnt already guess. Slow how (lag/running speed?) Whats "bad" about him for first impressions would be good...

Its cool having it confirmed that he has 5/4 jumps atleast.
 
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