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Brawl+: How many of you play?

Dyyne

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There was a snowstorm today, and cold as hell. My fingers hurt like hell.
 

shanus

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I was supposed to get my friends video cam before he left back to school but he forgot. I'll have a way to record when I get back though, and when I do I'll post some vids. Just a warning though, 95% of the vids will be me as captain falcon who is completely badass in Brawl+.


(Combos to knee again, so good).



Also Skank, Brawl with MAD (melee air dodge) is very awkward. Its not a good code and most people don't use it.
 

Dyyne

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Brawl with MAD (melee air dodge) is very awkward. Its not a good code and most people don't use it.
Really. That's interesting, I had thought that that was people's favorite part. So you just use brawl air dodge then?

And any vid would be fun to see, olimar or not. But do try to get some olis too :D
 

shanus

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Really. That's interesting, I had thought that that was people's favorite part. So you just use brawl air dodge then?
yes. hitstun is by far the best code. auto-l-canc, etc, dashdancing code. all are amazing
 

Dyyne

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What's the dashdancing code? I suck at dashdancing in Brawl (not amazing in melee either, but better), so this sounds good.
 

DtJ Hilt

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Being able to L-Cancel doenst really help olimar too much... unless you cancel NAir, but i havent tried that to know for sure yet...

but wave dash into USmash is too good

backwards wavedash while walling with FSmash/Grabs is cool too

:D
 

asob4

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played some this past weekend! sooo much fun! doesn't help olimar much, but dair becomes a legit combo starter
 

Dyyne

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I love watching any brawl+ video, but could you get some other characters up? Doesn't even HAVE to be oli, it's just that almost every brawl+ vid includes falcon :p
 

shanus

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I love watching any brawl+ video, but could you get some other characters up? Doesn't even HAVE to be oli, it's just that almost every brawl+ vid includes falcon :p
pshhhhhhhhh

I'll try and get some others up later. Maybe some as ganondorf or snake or something.
 

Master Knight DH

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I have yet to use a hack of Brawl. But even if I have, I would only use the no tripping code.

If I had to modify the game somehow, though, I would:
*Give characters flinch a/o launch resistance based on weight. It's ridiculous when Bowser can be caused to flinch by moves that don't make a Primid budge.
*Make Pit's arrows not cause flinching for a good while. They're unbelievable royal pains, end of story. If plausible, give them a sort of odd level-up system kind of like with Kid Icarus, that would give them different traits depending on what you do, but certain things would reduce the Experience and possibly the level. (And no, you would not get to keep any sort of the Experience for later battles.)
*Make the Pikmin's maturity stages actually affect *something*, not simply be there for decoration. In turn, tone down the leaf Pikmin's power and speed. This way, Pikmin Throw abuse results in long-term punishment and Olimar is no longer basically turned into Zero from Code Geass.
*Samus in her Chozo suit having decent priority, and having more weight. For one, why are her attacks plain stopped by Snake's? She comes from a more advanced civilization. And why does she get to live shorter than Snake does? She's a super athlete in super armor. It's really stupid when it takes less effort to kill her than it does to kill a smart astronaut whose people already have, as far as we know, no remarkable endurance.
 

Samuelson

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Brawl + is lots of fun but I don't think Olimar really benefits that much. Basically, Brawl + is all the basic techs that Melee had minus wavedashing. No auto sweet spot for ledges (makes edgeguarding awesome), lagless ledges, hitstun for awesome combos, auto L cancel for even more awesome combos. It's not like anybody is saying you should stop playing Brawl because Brawl + exists. Brawl + is fun and so is Brawl...they're both completely different. You would have to be super ignorant to just not play Brawl +, there's really no reason not to try it. Think of it as another smash game.

PS: I like wearing shorts in the winter time also.
 

DZLE

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Hey, I skimmed through this, and I really love Melee, and wish brawl was more like it at times.
But mostly, I love brawl the MOST, I want to keep it how it is.
But I am dying dying to try Brawl+.
Is there any links you have to a guide on how to hack your wii and where to buy the stuff to do it?
If you can provide something like that I would love it :D I really wanna try it!

EDIT: I head brawl+ has melee air dodge. DOES WAVEDASHING WORK IN BRAWL+?!?!
 

Dyyne

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You can have melee air dodge, and it does allow for wavedashing. However, it takes up a LOT of code space, so if you have that, then you can't have as many other hacks. Keep in mind that there is no set of hacks to use, so you can use whichever ones you want, but people generally don't use melee airdodge.
 

DZLE

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You can have melee air dodge, and it does allow for wavedashing. However, it takes up a LOT of code space, so if you have that, then you can't have as many other hacks. Keep in mind that there is no set of hacks to use, so you can use whichever ones you want, but people generally don't use melee airdodge.
So generally people dont use wavedashing? D:

Melee dashdancing + melee wavedashing + brawl = happy DZLE u.u
 

Master Knight DH

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Melee Airdodge can bite me. I'd rather have Ness and Olimar keep their weaknesses. And see multi-jumpers like Kirby or Pit not be susceptible to losing a major strength.
 

Dyyne

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Melee Airdodge can bite me. I'd rather have Ness and Olimar keep their weaknesses. And see multi-jumpers like Kirby or Pit not be susceptible to losing a major strength.
Bro, stop making your stupid comments about how much you hate brawl+. This is your second one, and neither of them even have much logic in them. Just stop, this is not the purpose of the thread.
 

Master Knight DH

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Bro, stop making your stupid comments about how much you hate brawl+. This is your second one, and neither of them even have much logic in them. Just stop, this is not the purpose of the thread.
Your post is what lacks logic. And I said I hate Melee's Airdodge, not Brawl+.
 

Dyyne

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I have yet to use a hack of Brawl. But even if I have, I would only use the no tripping code.
Brawl+ isn't just no tripping. That doesn't make something brawl+. Your statement clearly implies that you wouldn't like any other hacks, therefore you wouldn't like brawl+. Also, just so you know, if melee airdodge didn't take up so much space, I guarantee that it would be considered for the "official" brawl+, so that would lead to a dislike of it as well.
 

Revven

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Brawl+ isn't just no tripping. That doesn't make something brawl+. Your statement clearly implies that you wouldn't like any other hacks, therefore you wouldn't like brawl+. Also, just so you know, if melee airdodge didn't take up so much space, I guarantee that it would be considered for the "official" brawl+, so that would lead to a dislike of it as well.
It's actually more than just line space that it takes up, it's the fact that it's a sloppy code lulz. You can stack wavedashes, the air dodge is shorter, it limits your air defenses quite immensely when hitstun already does that enough (especially at 9.5% hitstun) etc. etc. The MAD code is sloppy and there's just so many more things that can make Brawl+ better without it, otherwise, if we stuck with MAD we probably wouldn't have gotten as much interest from people as we have now.

But, that's beside the point, Diddy Kong is amazing in Brawl+, that is all.
 

Dyyne

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It's actually more than just line space that it takes up, it's the fact that it's a sloppy code lulz. You can stack wavedashes, the air dodge is shorter, it limits your air defenses quite immensely when hitstun already does that enough (especially at 9.5% hitstun) etc. etc. The MAD code is sloppy and there's just so many more things that can make Brawl+ better without it, otherwise, if we stuck with MAD we probably wouldn't have gotten as much interest from people as we have now.

But, that's beside the point, Diddy Kong is amazing in Brawl+, that is all.
That too, but people seemed to still like it in my experiences.
 

shanus

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That too, but people seemed to still like it in my experiences.
Just made a sick combo video, no olimar in though, updated OP with the link as well, but here it is:

Hi guys, as editted by the man, the legend, DangerLance, I'm glad to present you with a nice showcase of pretty epic Brawl+ clips. Please post comments, subscribe, etc.


CLICK HERE FOR AWESOME



For those that want to know, this codeset is a little outdates now, but here are the values (I now use 8-8.5% hitstun + higher grav, etcetc).
 

Dyyne

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Sweet vid, moar chars plz. Use olimarrrrrrr. Some dthrow->shffl'd nair->usmash->fh dair-> techchase grab->dthrow->fair->dair ????? I can haz oli combos please
 
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