Brawl Graveyard: Where lost hopes rest

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Little Mac is an assist trophy, and Fox gets a makeover so that he looks like Wolf. Brawl is lacking villains here. K. Rool had better make the cut as a fighter, because this is just ridiculous to be seeing villains be denied.

 

[§leepy God]

Fox had to look like Wolf in the E for All demo huh.

 

[Chidosengan]

It's official. The AT is Saki.

Too bad. I would have liked him playable. It least it says the series is not forgotten.

 

[RWB]

Little Mac is an assist trophy, and Fox gets a makeover so that he looks like Wolf. Brawl is lacking villains here. K. Rool had better make the cut as a fighter, because this is just ridiculous to be seeing villains be denied.

Ugh, Wolf isn't even a villain, just an antagonist.

 

[Shuma]

Wolf deconfirmed!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Although some said it just changes his fur color so there's still hope. But still... darn it.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Wow, three characters deconfirmed in one day.

*Plays Emo Vader Music*How could this happen to meeeeee?

 

[Camalach]

Someone might have posted this before and I'm sorry if they did but I dont see how having a mii wifi play icon disconfirms the miis, The playable characters all have icons of their own so how does this deconfirm miis.

Again I'm sorry if this has been said before.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Someone might have posted this before and I'm sorry if they did but I dont see how having a mii wifi play icon disconfirms the miis, The playable characters all have icons of their own so how does this deconfirm miis.

Again I'm sorry if this has been said before.

Because he wouldn't reveal a new character like that, especially when obvious characters were omitted from that update...

And they have a different background than the playable characters




...and they just plain suck

 

[Homelessvagrant]

Because he wouldn't reveal a new character like that, especially when obvious characters were omitted from that update...

And they have a different background than the playable characters




...and they just plain suck

But miis and a general mii icon are completely different, plus this idea of Sakurai wouldn't show this before he announces that is bogus because it's based entirely off opinion and not on any facts. I don't care if it seems likely, that doesn't make it 100% true.

And why is wolf denounced? I know it says he as turned into an alternate costume but i've yet to see such a thing or hear it. can someone please tell me.

 

[Circus]

...and they just plain suck

This is the main reason. Sakurai agrees. He came to me in a dream last night. . . .

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

on the plus side, no wolf means that Krystal's got a better shot

 

[silver777]

Wolf as Fox's custom?!?!

no!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[vesperview]

Again, this thread deconfirms people WAY too quickly, seriously a palette swap means nothing.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Again, this thread deconfirms people WAY too quickly, seriously a palette swap means nothing.

it deconfirms wolf as much as Daisy is by peach's alt. out. in melee.

if wolf were in the game, they wouldn't let you make fox look just like him

 

[vesperview]

I just need pictures you know, is so easy to just say it.

 

[Sinn]

Whoa, stop, hold it...DIXIE was seen as a Diddy costume? Can I get a video one this one?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Whoa, stop, hold it...DIXIE was seen as a Diddy costume? Can I get a video one this one?

Unfortunetly there is no video yet...

However, it's not really Dixie because the lack of hair...

...It's more like Diddy wearing Dixies clothing...

 

[silver777]

these host girls need to be here....

 

[EPX2]

it deconfirms wolf as much as Daisy is by peach's alt. out. in melee.

if wolf were in the game, they wouldn't let you make fox look just like him

You mean like Mario with his Luigi costume?

 

[raul]

This is surprising. Wolf deconfirmed by a costume change? What a way to go. This doesn't add up to me. The SSB series has been lacking villans and antagonists, so why lower that number with turning one of them into an alternate costume? Unless they are a large number of villans that we don't know about that are bound to make an appearance as playable characters (King Dedede, King K.Rool, Ridley, Black Knight, Gannondorf, etc.) combined with those we already know (at this time, Bowser and Wario), then I could understand no Wolf O' Donnell. I guess we must wait and see.

 

[xianfeng]

Told you this thread was full of ****.

Luigi = Deconfirmed acording to this ****ed up threads logic.

 

[Sinn]

Unfortunetly there is no video yet...

However, it's not really Dixie because the lack of hair...

...It's more like Diddy wearing Dixies clothing...

...that's just creepy o_o

 

[xianfeng]

Probably not in Japan, they do all sorts of odd things, but Diddy is a british character, so it is odd!

 

[Homelessvagrant]

We can't completely deconfirm idea is complete rubbish. The idea we can complete 100 % deconfirm something by hidden clues doesn't make much sense. I could understand if this thread was a 90% unprobable thread or the like, but I can't accept this. It harbors on the border of irrational thinking.

I'm sory If I may haveoffended the thread maker and please don't take this personally but i think that it would be better to have more of a chart of deconfirmation. For example AT reveals would result in a 99% deconfirmation and be red or completely unlikely while characters like Wolf would have a slightly unidealistic rating meaning he could be in but at the point it doesn't make sense for such a move.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Told you this thread was full of ****.

Luigi = Deconfirmed acording to this ****ed up threads logic.

It wouldn't be right to remove Luigi. After all, Luigi IS one of the original 12 fighters.

 

[xianfeng]

So that's just personal bias.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

It wouldn't be right to remove Luigi. After all, Luigi IS one of the original 12 fighters.

He's not saying get rid of Luigi M_A_S. He's trying to make a point.

 

[xianfeng]

If Wolf is deconfirmed then so are Luigi and Marth or Sigurd.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

If Wolf is deconfirmed then so are Luigi and Marth or Sigurd.

And Wario lol.

 

[Shadowbolt]

If Wolf is deconfirmed then so are Luigi and Marth or Sigurd.

One instance doesn't automatically apply to all others. Just because you want Wolf to remain unconfirmed, that doesn't automatically make it the case.

 

[raul]

Told you this thread was full of ****.

Luigi = Deconfirmed acording to this ****ed up threads logic.

Well, I don't believe to be the thread's logic that is in question, but rather the evidence that is used. Example? Sure.

We can all agree that Little Mac with not be a playable character for obviously he has been confirmed on the official Smash Brothers Brawl website that he is an assist trophy. That is the best evidence to prove whether or not a character is NOT playable.

Also when a character as seen as part of the stage, such as KK Slider in the Animal Crossing level or whatever its called; a character that is part of a stage CANNOT be used as a playable character.

For Pokemon, if they appear in a pokeball, then they CANNOT be a playable character.

When characters are part of the adventure mode, Homerun contest, 1-player missions or some other part of regular game play, ie an example from Melee, Giga Bowser was a boss in event 51, then they are NOT playable characters. (This also includes Bosses)

What do all of these have in common? We actually see the character physically represented in the game. We saw Giga Bowser in Melee, we see Little Mac as an Assist Trophy, We see Mewoth in a poke ball, we saw the Goomba's in Melee in adventure mode and we see KK Slider in the background of the Animal Crossing Stage. All of these are physical representations of evidence that a character will not be a playable character in Brawl.

A costume change does NOT show a physical representation of a said character. All it does is alternate the clothing options of an already confirmed character.

Now some of you will argue that in Melee, Peach had an alternative costume of that was Daisy's attire, thus removing her from the possibility of the playable character list in Melee. I argue that Daisy may have never been considered to be a playable character in the first place. Also Melee did not have assist trophies, which allow more character appearances in Brawl. Without AT's in Melee, it lowers the chances of characters making appearance completely.

So what am I getting at? I believe that just because a confirmed character has an alternate costume that appears to be a unconfirmed character, does not mean that a unconfirmed character should be deconfirmed. A physical representation is need, ie, pokeball, AT, part of the stage or gameplay, or as I forgotten to mention a collectible Trophy, to prove that this character is deconfirmed as a playable character.

So, I believe Wolf could still show up as a Boss, part of stage, collectibel trophy, or an assist trophy.

 

[xianfeng]

Well if he using costumes as a method of deconfirming one character on his personal bias then he has to do it to all of them.

 

[Chidosengan]

Now that I think about it, it doesn't make much sense doesn't it?

Yea, Wolf's down... For now.

The fact that led me to deconfirming Wolf is that the way it was described. Everyone says that Fox's costume change looks like Wolf. In Melee, we had Daisy and Blood Falcon as Peach's can Capt. Falcon's alternate costume respectively. In a sense, they were playable, just not in their own character. Get it?

So I took Wolf out of the list now, but I still have a feeling he won't be playable in the end.

 

[Shadowbolt]

Well if he using costumes as a method of deconfirming one character on his personal bias then he has to do it to all of them.

No, he really doesn't.

 

[raul]

No, he really doesn't.

Sure he does. You have to apply the same costume rule to character A then he must do the same to characters B,C,D, and E.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Hmm... well my main jiggly... I love her... but apparently, pika's outfit changes are:

Pika's red hat
pichu's blue goggles
and
Jiggly's green headband

I'm worried about jiggs after this

 

[volbound1700]

Why would they cutt Jigglypuff? Character has been around for a while.

 

[Shadowbolt]

What costume RULE? Who said anything about a rule? Daisy was a costume in Melee and there was no rule.

 

[raul]

What costume RULE? Who said anything about a rule? Daisy was a costume in Melee and there was no rule.

There is no rule in terms of the actual SSB games. What was said was that if youre going to create the "rule" or THEORY that a character is deconfirmed by a costume that represents an unconfirmed character found on a confirmed character, then you must apply it to every situation it is revelant regardless of your personal bias.

Example: If Wolf Costume found on Fox then Wolf deconfirmed. So If Waluigi Costume found on Wario then Waluigi deconfirmed. You can't say "Oh I like Waluigi so that cannot be the case." Personal bias cannot change the rule.

 

[Shuma]

Well i heard that ONLY fox's fur changes color, he doesn't change his clothing. So Wolf deconfirmed? not yet. We need a pic or video.