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[Mario77]

Wow... Razor Leaf and Water Gun... the same moves that everyone in the entire universe predicted when PT was first announced.

I just really want to know Charizard's Up B.

Please be Seismic Toss...

Dude, Charizards grab THROWS , his up throw BETTER be SEISMIC TOSS

 

[orintemple]

Dude, Charizards grab THROWS , his up throw BETTER be SEISMIC TOSS

Yea I think a throw is a better bet for Seismic Toss. His Up-B will either be Fly, or this Air Slash that some leaker talked about. Or maybe something else, but I doubt it.

 

[KaptKRool]

So is Squirtle's Watergun going to be the same as Mario's Fludd?

 

[Masque]

Zero Samus DOWN b is a... a JUMP? That don't make much cents but whatever lulz

Yes, that's what my translating skillz say.

But don't just take MY word for it! Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiBDV9Xu9c

Really, watch from 2:15 until the end. The player confirms that he performed her Down Special twice. He refers to it as "Jump Flip?," but according to the kana on ZSS' Corocoro card, the word order is reversed (Flip Jump).

 

[thesage]

what character cards are said to be in the magazine? I've seen a list but I want to know if it was right. Do you guys have any idea?

 

[Ryuujiin]

Who was the one who lived in japan and had the corocoro issue last time? Maybe he can try getting his hands on the cards (if he isn't trying to already) and get some better pictures.

 

[BentoBox]

What's with all the pokemon talk? Shiek appears to be confirmed, am I the only one happy to hear this? o.o

http://brawlcentral.com/

 

[ShortFuse]

Sheik isn't confirmed really. I was checking out 2chan, and they were saying stuff about midna and even Ganon's Puppet for Down+B Zelda

But it's probably a new "Shiekish" type character.

 

[BentoBox]

How does it make any sense to you that Zelda would transform into Ganon's Puppet or Midna... Seriously~ Besides, shiek in a form or another was already confirmed a while ago.

 

[freeman123]

Sheik isn't confirmed really. I was checking out 2chan, and they were saying stuff about midna and even Ganon's Puppet for Down+B Zelda

But it's probably a new "Shiekish" type character.

Why would Zelda turn into Midna or Ganon's puppet? That makes no sense at all.

 

[orintemple]

Why would Zelda turn into Midna or Ganon's puppet? That makes no sense at all.

Agreed, Zelda can only be one other person. She is either Shiek or no one. I don't recall her ever becoming Midna and why would you voluntarily turn yourself into a puppet devoid of freedom...

 

[Masque]

I'm wondering if perhaps that parenthetical note about the "New Twilight Sheik Transformation" being put in by the poster of the original kana. What if it weren't present on the card itself? That offers no proof whatsoever that Sheik is still Zelda's transformation. Yes, it's likely, but not set in stone.

 

[TrueBlue23]

Nice I'm liking these.

 

[freeman123]

I was just reading 2chan and they said that Zelda's down B turns her into Captain Crunch. I guess Sheik isn't in the game after all.

 

[Devastlian]

I'm wondering if perhaps that parenthetical note about the "New Twilight Sheik Transformation" being put in by the poster of the original kana. What if it weren't present on the card itself? That offers no proof whatsoever that Sheik is still Zelda's transformation. Yes, it's likely, but not set in stone.

Ya know, when I first saw that, I thought it could be, something like, "Twilight Transformation (Originally Sheik Transformation)" kinda like "FLUDD (Originally Mario Tornado)". Then again, I could be crazy wrong. <_<

 

[raphtmarqui]

Im pretty sure Shiek will be the transformation/

 

[ShortFuse]

I was just reading 2chan and they said that Zelda's down B turns her into Captain Crunch. I guess Sheik isn't in the game after all.

Because 2Chan is where the images came from in the first place. You don't have to be a jerk. It helps nothing to the discussion. They go off on tangents and don't think it's Shiek. It's interesting because they're the ones who first discovered this information.

We don't know what Twilight Transformation would be and Shiek is not from TP, she's from OoT. Also, Zelda's character in Twilight Princess is rather "weak". When in Twilight Realm, she has the hood, and I immediately though Shiekish when I played the Twilight Princess for the first time, but she seemed rather weak. Maybe she was depressed but in the game she was like "Oh no! Two guards are coming. Link, leave". I thought to myself, "Two guards? That's nothing."

Maybe Sakurai will make her move and act like Shiek but in my opinion it wouldn't make sense considering the role Twilight Zelda played in the story. She came across as a weak, defenseless and depressed character who needed saving.

It's probably what Sakurai will do though, apply the Shiek moveset to the Twilight Realm Zelda. Whatever, it's just a video game. Canon be ****ed, I think Zelda would look cooler if she had a hoody and kicked *** because at least she won't seeem like a crossdresser.

 

[NeoZ]

I agree, they should either make Sheik a little less male-looking or completely redo the transformation's design.

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

So is Squirtle's Watergun going to be the same as Mario's Fludd?

No, Water Gun is supposed to shoot a small 'water bullet', not a continuous stream of water.

 

[Chi's Finest]

Well, the truth is we have no idea how Water Gun works. I thought it may work like Mario's FLUDD, but perhaps it would work in the way that the above poster mentioned. I would think that his N Special would cause damage and would be different form Mario's move anyway.

The big thing is still the Charizard translation. I don't see how we're gonna be able to figure it out to be honest. It's just too hard. We can only see the first 2 and a half japanese characters for the name of the move, but te big problem is, even after messing with the image so much, it's still d*mn near impossible to read. We can try later today, but I don't know if we'll be able to get it. We thought we had it at Fly yesterday, but don't want to confirm anything.

For what it's worth, we think the blurry text resembles "Fly" the most, but don't go quoting us on it at all.

Just a random fact of the translations: CoroCoro puts some self described descriptions of the characters in their comic and describes Squirtle as "cute!"" and Snake as "Cool Spy".

 

[Lone Spectator]

No, Water Gun is supposed to shoot a small 'water bullet', not a continuous stream of water.

Yes, the anime got it all wrng. In all games, Water Gn is a bullet. I'm guessing in Smash it's chargeable.

 

[espio87]

The big thing is still the Charizard translation. I don't see how we're gonna be able to figure it out to be honest. It's just too hard. We can only see the first 2 and a half japanese characters for the name of the move, but te big problem is, even after messing with the image so much, it's still d*mn near impossible to read.

can't you ask your sources to take a better picture? just wondering because it seems that you are having a really hard time.
also, I think Zelda's down b will still transform her into Sheik from OoT but she will get a complete redesing (and no i don't mean hooded zelda from TP)

 

[Chi's Finest]

can you ask your sources to take a better picture? just wondering because it seems that you are having a really hard time.
also, I think Zelda's down b will still transform her into Sheik from OoT but she will get a complete redesing (and no i don't mean hooded zelda from TP)

I haven't had any contact yet with last month's CoroCoro source, so all we have to go on is one of the original 4 images that were leaked.

Yea, I don't see the hood coming into play. I mean, what good is a transformation if you just put on a hood? How would that change her moveset or abilities at all?

 

[Al Calnos]

Chi, do you actually have those cards or are you just translating from the horribly blurry pics on your site? Because honestly I can't see how anyone that can read Japanese can read those cards outside of the very large text...

 

[NeoZ]

Well actually Zelda has those mad ninja-skills even without the disguise, unless the sheikah clothes have the actual powers. So it really doesn't matter if she has a cloak or not, but I'm still hoping for Sheik.

 

[Chi's Finest]

Chi, do you actually have those cards or are you just translating from the horribly blurry pics on your site? Because honestly I can't see how anyone that can read Japanese can read those cards outside of the very large text...

Actually, yes we are using those images. That's why Charizard's is so hard to understand. Aeris and I spent hours over AIM yesterday figuring out the blurry names of the attacks character by character( text characters, not Brawl characters), until we were able to figure out the word, then translate it.

I'd tweak the images multiple times to make certain parts clearer to read, and eventually, we got our answers. Judging by the looks for the first character in his Up Special, it doesn't look much like the first character in any of the attacks with the word "Air" in it, so that's how we are saying that we don't believe the move is anyhting with "Air" in it.

 

[rusashi]

Can't Serebii just give us the entire freaking corocoro? I know you don't like giving us info, but you won't get in trouble for sharing an issue of a magazine with us -_-;

 

[Lecto2007]

Is this a Ivysaur thread or zero suit samus thread i mean come on guys lets not stray from the subject.

 

[QuickBlade]

Nice info, "flip jump" sounds interesting.

 

[Chi's Finest]

Is this a Ivysaur thread or zero suit samus thread i mean come on guys lets not stray from the subject.

It's basically a thread for the discoveries we've made from the images. Ivysaur and Zamus were two of the updates found by us, so they are part of the topic. Since we focused on picking apart one image at a time, it was better to have this all in one thread to be updated than to create a new thread every time we found out a new move.

I'm going to take the original Charizard image again and restart the tweaking of it later. Maybe me and Aeris can give it one more shot. I'm mostly determined to find it out, not just to know it, but because it's now bothering me that we figured out all Pokemon specials except for this one, which seemed to be the most controversal.

 

[Igneous42]

It's basically a thread for the discoveries we've made from the images. Ivysaur and Zamus were two of the updates found by us, so they are part of the topic. Since we focused on picking apart one image at a time, it was better to have this all in one thread to be updated than to create a new thread every time we found out a new move.

I'm going to take the original Charizard image again and restart the tweaking of it later. Maybe me and Aeris can give it one more shot. I'm mostly determined to find it out, not just to know it, but because it's now bothering me that we figured out all Pokemon specials except for this one, which seemed to be the most controversal.

so is it safe to assume that beyond Zelda's information about sheik there is nothing really big in Cocoro? Like no new char revaluations or anything?

And could Charizard's Up B be seismic toss perhaps?

 

[Zek]

Has anyone actually been able to read Zelda's special moves from that card picture?

 

[ShortFuse]

Has anyone actually been able to read Zelda's special moves from that card picture?

some people on 2ch who have the cards agree it's "change"
some said ganon change. some say midna change but like hell i'll be able find it on such a cluttered forum

 

[Black/Light]

It's basically a thread for the discoveries we've made from the images. Ivysaur and Zamus were two of the updates found by us, so they are part of the topic. Since we focused on picking apart one image at a time, it was better to have this all in one thread to be updated than to create a new thread every time we found out a new move.

I'm going to take the original Charizard image again and restart the tweaking of it later. Maybe me and Aeris can give it one more shot. I'm mostly determined to find it out, not just to know it, but because it's now bothering me that we figured out all Pokemon specials except for this one, which seemed to be the most controversal.

Maybe you all should just try to get a better image in place of just resizing and "tweaking" and already crappy image. I mean, all this stuff should be on the web SCANNED by someone in Japan soon anyway so I wouldn't put so much energy into making a crap pic almost readable.

 

[Chi's Finest]

If it matters at all, here's ZSamus's Jump flip in terrible, horrendous quality.

You should take note that she landed it on the main platform, not the floating one, even though she passed through it. So I guess you go through platforms with it in the same way you can with a regular jump.

 

[Masque]

Has anyone actually been able to read Zelda's special moves from that card picture?

No, because that's the back of the card, which just shows a character's Final Smash. Special Moves are listed on the front, and we sadly do not yet have a scan (or a copy) of the front of Zelda's card.

some people on 2ch who have the cards agree it's "change"
some said ganon change. some say midna change but like hell i'll be able find it on such a cluttered forum

I think Twilight Change is accurate, but the note about a "Twilight Version Sheik Transformation" was probably put in by the Japanese poster, which makes me leery about confirming Sheik just yet. Until we get a scan or a copy of Zelda's Corocoro card, Sheik is not yet confirmed.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

some people on 2ch who have the cards agree it's "change"
some said ganon change. some say midna change but like hell i'll be able find it on such a cluttered forum

Interesting. At first I thought the Ganon change was just a Joke, but then I remembered Ganon-possesed Zelda, which would fit the twilight change. Midna seems an odd choice, but seeing as Midna can teleport it could be a sort of tag team, and also fits the twilight title. Maybe that's why Zelda hasn't had an update yet.

It does seem as though we can't say Shiek is in the game yet. All we know is that Zelda still transforms, just not what or who into. Though if Shiek isn't what she transforms into, it'd debunk many of the leakers out there.

 

[Chepe]

Wait, so Charizard's Up B still isnt completely confirmed? Because I hear that you guys said it is definitely called Air Cutter...

 

[Al Calnos]

Wait, so Charizard's Up B still isnt completely confirmed? Because I hear that you guys said it is definitely called Air Cutter...

No, that's "thealmightygoat" or whatever he's called. Charizard's UP+B might prove he's a phony for the people who still believe him...

 

[Gold_Darkness]

What we need fast is a Smashboards poster who's living in Japan and have that person buy the CoroCoro issue.