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So this was a weird matchup for me. I lost this tournament set, money matched him after the tournament and won, but still it was close. When I did do anything "good" I felt like I was abusing his lack of knowledge on the matchup rather than actually playing it correctly.
Does anyone have any experience with Wario? I doubt I will learn the matchup very well without outside videos/advice as we don't have any Wario players but Carls here and he appears to be learning as well.
I've found that
So this was a weird matchup for me. I lost this tournament set, money matched him after the tournament and won, but still it was close. When I did do anything "good" I felt like I was abusing his lack of knowledge on the matchup rather than actually playing it correctly.
Does anyone have any experience with Wario? I doubt I will learn the matchup very well without outside videos/advice as we don't have any Wario players but Carls here and he appears to be learning as well.
I've found that
- you can punish Wario's dair on shield very well
- you can punish Wario's over-b with fair OoS as well as clank it with f-tilt
- Wario's bite combos directly into fart (which is awful)
- Wario's dair combos into u-air+nair combos which can often lead to bite on landing
- Wario is difficult to traditionally edgeguard
- Wario has difficulty landing actual straight up kill moves and often requires you to allow yourself to be hit by a spaced bair; otherwise he has to be right up on you
- You often have to recover high against Wario lest he get a free fart or spike. You will take damage.
- Your jab beats most of his close-range options
- Your fire breath doesn't do as well as you'd like given his aerial mobility and extreme punishes when attacking from overhead (dair into combo, falling u-air into combo, bite into fart, straight up fart)
- up+b OoS has to be used carefully as he can chase you with Over-B and kill you at surprisingly low % if you are hesitant with your retreat/don't have a ledge
- fair beats most of his aerial options but his mobility allows him to space out your fair and get under you if you aren't careful
- His jab rarely should get in, but when it does you're getting comboed
- Wario likes to d-smash or dair you when recovering. This is not hard for him to do because your recovery is so limited.
- Wario seems more likely than others to use his second jump and make himself vulnerable as a result; how to best punish it I'm not sure, but u-air is looking tasty
- Running d-tilt/dash attack is more dangerous in this matchup than most, as Wario can challenge your dash with his Over-B (basically his only move that can challenge you on the ground)