Bowser v1.0.4 changes

[-Kagato-]

Turns out that WiiU Bowsercide ends in Sudden Death.

Crisis averted.

 

[Raiden mk-II]

Let's see if 3DS Bowsercide will follow suit. At least then, it'll be like Brawl rather than the lunacy that is Bowser dying first even if he is on top of the opponent and the opponent reaches the blast zone first.

 

[BSL]

I used that same tombstone for a joke a few years ago

 

[B!squick]

WiiU version might be an older version of the game. I noticed when we popped it in there was no patch.

 

[BSL]

I had a patch. Wii U 1.0.1

 

[B!squick]

Now we have to ask ourselves, will the WiiU version have different patch numbers?

 

[BSL]

Most likely.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Turns out that WiiU Bowsercide ends in Sudden Death.

Crisis averted.

I guess they will have to make a new patch for 3DS eventually then.

 

[BSL]

Doesn't end in sudden death for me.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Hmmm. So basically some instances it leads to sudden death but other times it leads to Bowser's loss. Definitely Bowser's loss if against another player. Or so I keep hearing along with repeated tests on the 3DS. I'll be testing this on the Wii U when I get my copy.

 

[-Kagato-]

Yup. Bowsercide is completely bugged:

I noticed that I was getting Sudden Death often, but then all of a sudden Bowser started dying first. I decided to do a little research. Turns out that Bowsercide's result is completely stage-dependant.

I tested on more stages than what's in the video. There's 3 different scenarios:

1. Normal or Omega, Bowser dies first.
2. Normal or Omega, Sudden Death.
3. One version of the stage leads to Bowser dying first, but the other version ends in Sudden Death.

 

[B!squick]

Nintendo has play testers, right?

 

[Raiden mk-II]

They should have followed the saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

But now, they "fixed" it, and they done broke it. What a hair-trigger reaction and a hasty change to something that was not broken in the first place.

 

[-Kagato-]

I examined all the Omega stages as well as any stage I think might become legal as a neutral or counterpick, and these are my findings:

*Note: Unlockable stages will be added as I unlock them

Normal Stage Sudden Death
Final Destination
Delfino Plaza
Castle Siege
Custom Stages (wont be used, but thought it would be nice to know)

Normal Stage Bowser Dies First
Battlefield
Town and City
Skyloft
Halberd
Mushroom Kingdom U
Lylat
Town and City
Pilotwings
Wuhu Island
Wooly World
Yoshi's Island

Omega Stage Sudden Death
Delfino Plaza
Halberd
Mario Circuit
Mario Circuit (Brawl)
Bridge of Eldin
Pyrosphere
Norfair
Port Town Aero Drive
Wooly World
Yoshi's Island
Great Cave Offensive
Orbital Gate Assault
Mario Galaxy
Palutena's Temple
Skyworld
Garden of Hope
Wii Fit Studio
Gaur Plain
75m
Wrecking Crew
Pilotwings
Wuhu Island
Wily Castle

Omega Stage Bowser DIes First
Skyloft
Battlefield
Mushroom Kingdom U
Luigi's Mansion
Jungle Hijinks
Hyrule Temple
Lylat Cruise
Kalos Pokemon League
Onett
Coliseum
Castle Seige
Gamer
Town and City
Boxing Ring
Windy Hill Zone

 

[MagiusNecros]

I expect this might be remedied in a future patch. Who knows when though.

 

[S_B]

@ -Kagato- GREAT work on these!

Is there some kind of official support email for SSB we can send this to? They seriously need to fix it...

The good news is that, since this is behaving inconsistently, we can chalk it up to a bug and not a deliberate decision to nerf Bowser into never using klaw ever again.