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So recently I've been doing research on every smash 4 character's competitive viability in order to make my personal tier list more accurate, and I was wondering what you guys think of Bayonetta and Corrin. I think both of them are at least top 15 (Corrin in the 12-15 range) and Bayonetta a solid 3-5 placing. Do you guys have any thoughts on these two DLC characters? :4bayonetta::4corrin:

Fluttershy Fluttershy What would you say about Corrin's viability?

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I'd say :4corrinf: is around mid to high tier and :4corrin: is bottom tier :dazwa:
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So recently I've been doing research on every smash 4 character's competitive viability in order to make my personal tier list more accurate, and I was wondering what you guys think of Bayonetta and Corrin. I think both of them are at least top 15 (Corrin in the 12-15 range) and Bayonetta a solid 3-5 placing. Do you guys have any thoughts on these two DLC characters? :4bayonetta::4corrin:
Bayo is not top 5.

Sure, Witch Time allows her for easy kills and she has tons of crazy combos, but said combos can be escaped with proper DI, her frame data is horrible, her neutral is overall bad and she has nothing safe on shields...

I'd say she's around 10-15.

As for Corrin, probably the same because she's a spacing MONSTER!
 
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Bayo is not top 5.

Sure, Witch Time allows her for easy kills and she has tons of crazy combos, but said combos can be escaped with proper DI, her frame data is horrible, her neutral is overall bad and she has nothing safe on shields...

I'd say she's around 10-15.

As for Corrin, probably the same because she's a spacing MONSTER!
OK. Thanks for input as well, Uni. I think the reason why I said 3-5 was honestly because of her witch time move. I haven't thought about her frame data, and it is pretty bad, actually.

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Edit: The Stoopid Unikorn The Stoopid Unikorn Out of curiosity, who would you say are the top 5 best characters in the game?
 
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OK. Thanks for input as well, Uni. I think the reason why I said 3-5 was honestly because of her witch time move. I haven't thought about her frame data, and it is pretty bad, actually.

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Edit: The Stoopid Unikorn The Stoopid Unikorn Out of curiosity, who would you say are the top 5 best characters in the game?
yeah Witch Time is good but the frame data will most likely put her in mid-low tier..

also what level does Pikachu learn Iron Tail? :dazwa: I'm going to need it for Brock :troll:
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yeah Witch Time is good but the frame data will most likely put her in mid-low tier..


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Even though her frame data is indeed poor, it's not enough to place her in the bottom half. I have faith in her combos, attack range, and the witch time move (among other smaller factors). After consulting you guys on Bayo, I'll probably drop her to 6-10, closer to 10 if anything unless I change my mind.

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Shiek
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Ryu
Not sure about 5th...

In other words, I think the 4BR got the top 4 right with their tier list.
Ok. I think Ryu's definitely good, but I'm not sure about 4th being the spot for him. I'd probably place him in 5th or 6th and have Sonic go above him because of his predictable recovery and larger frame. He does have ridiculous combos, among other strengths though, so I could change my mind.

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I forgot about Sonic :facepalm:
  1. Shiek
  2. ZSS
  3. RosaLuma
  4. sanic
  5. Ryu
Now that top 5 looks solid. I'm in definite agreement now :)
To be honest, I used to think Pikachu was top 5. However, his tournament results haven't really stacked up for top tier caliber. I'd venture to say Mario, Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, and even Ness have gotten more love than the rodent in the more recent nationals.

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At yet it seems Cloud has a lot more things going for him than the Blue Blur...

(you're basicallty saying that Cloud should be top 5. HOW CAN I TAKE THAT AS AN INSULT?)
(Because out of context, it would sound like I was complaining about Cloud again.)
 
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I think Sonic's higher because better frame data, more reliable and consistent kill options, his speed and the Spin Shot tech.
I totally agree. Besides, I trust your words when you said Limit Break, among other options Cloud has, is less useful than what one may think at first.

I personally think Cloud is decent, but far from top 5. I'd probably place him in 11th at best, and this is only because of his popularity. A more accurate ranking would be closer to 15th.

30 greetings to Silvera Silvera
 
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