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what is the best video game ever?
I like LoZOoT (legend of zleda ocarana of time)
I like LoZOoT (legend of zleda ocarana of time)
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You should be mad that Secret of Mana 2 never came in the U.S. That game is a must-have!HoChiMinhTrail said:Secret of Mana for SNES was a greatZ gAme, my fav --;
Yeah, it was better than Secret of Mana, in my opinion.NukeA6 said:You should be mad that Secret of Mana 2 never came in the U.S. That game is a must-have!
Secret of Mana is Seiken Densetsu 2. You guys need to work on your math.ZeroX131 said:Yeah, it was better than Secret of Mana, in my opinion.
And as for best game, it's probably OoT. My favorite, however, may very well be the Oracle games.
Well if they're no good to you, how about you tell us what the good RPGs are. Show me better reasons cuz your justifications prove nothing.Chris II said:Oh, if the RPG section is filled with any of the following:
-A NES game
-A SNES game
-A GB/GBC/GBA game that isn't pokemon
-The words "Final Fantasy"
-Xenogears
-Suikoden 2
...I will cry at the ignorance of people.
Valkyrie ProfileNukeA6 said:Well if they're no good to you, how about you tell us what the good RPGs are.
Of course they prove something. They prove that I dislike games with bland gameplay.Show me better reasons cuz your justifications prove nothing.
Good enough except Pokemon. Well that's just my opinion.Chris II said:Valkyrie Profile
Vagrant Story
Saga Frontier 2
Pokemon
Fire Emblem 5
...just a few examples.
Bland gameplay? Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 4-6, and SM 2 & 3 make Pokemon look like Superman 64.Chris II said:Of course they prove something. They prove that I dislike games with bland gameplay.
Gameplay is pretty subjective, actually. Why is pokemon bad? It's a good strategic multiplayer RPG. Sure, the plot/characters/certain designs blow, but the gameplay mechanics are quite good.NukeA6 said:Good enough except Pokemon. Well that's just my opinion.
Small note: There are no RPGs for the SNES with the initials SM2 & 3. Only SMT for Shin Megami Tensei and SD for Seiken Densetsu.Bland gameplay? Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 4-6, and SM 2 & 3 make Pokemon look like Superman 64.
You might as well show me what is so bland about the great RPGs you keep putting downs on. I'll be waiting.
Forgive me for the Pokemon rant, I was just in one my bad moods. I do think Pokemon is overrated though.Chris II said:Gameplay is pretty subjective, actually. Why is pokemon bad? It's a good strategic multiplayer RPG. Sure, the plot/characters/certain designs blow, but the gameplay mechanics are quite good.
I meant SD, my fault.Chris II said:Small note: There are no RPGs for the SNES with the initials SM2 & 3. Only SMT for Shin Megami Tensei and SD for Seiken Densetsu.
You expect complete character customization. Sure whatever you say. Rydia isn't that useless. She does have Leviathan and Bahamutt which do major damage.Chris II said:Bland gameplay:
Chrono Trigger and FF4, there's very little character customization past "should I give the power tab to Robo or Crono" in CT, and ZERO character customization in FF4 besides changing your equips(which is still nothing, because it's always "should I use the good armor or not use the good armor, making the point moot). It's funny, because FF4 seems almost regressive in this aspect, seeing as FF2 and FF3 were both games where you could customize characters. Late game is hilarious in FF4, because it's actually more useful to kill off Rydia than to let her gain exp.
Doesn't prove why say it's bland.Chris II said:Chrono Trigger's gameplay was limited because of a few things. The characters really only had two types of setups late game(defensive setup with prism equips or offensive setup with haste helm). The area attacks that don't hit the entire screen are quite limited because you can't move your hero. The double techs system wasn't exactly new or innovative. That being said, I liked Chrono Trigger when I played it because I liked the plot.
Unfortunately in Pokemon, you gotta do alot of work and use lots of time to get the right teams and attacks. If the FF5 classes are too cheap for you, use fair ones.Chris II said:FF5 wasn't bad. Good improvement on FF3's class system. The gameplay does not, by the way, make pokemon look like superman 64. In pokemon, you could actually counter things using different teams. Here, it's just "Use chemist to mix something to make you invincible, Doublecast Meteor/Holy/Flare, use X-attack with two swords. Laugh." Any other team is less useful by contrast.
There are bugs but not that much, just don't use Relm's Sketch so much. If Ultima bothers you, don't use it.Chris II said:FF6 would've been good if it weren't for one massive problem. The gaping hole where the bug testers should be. That game has more bugs than a cheap motel. Also: No reason to use anything in that game but Ultima and Cure3 and Genjiglove/Offering with Locke and Setzer. Again: Pokemon's teams don't have that type of monotony.
Then what was?*******1 said:i agree oot was good, but not the greatest
This is pretty much my post, down to the punctuation.Cashed said:Action/Adventure: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
RPG: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Overall Favorite Game: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Really? I think it's underrated due to the extreme number of whiny teens who try to seem deep by saying LEWLS ITS TOO CUTESY IT SUXXORS I LOVE XENOGEARS.NukeA6 said:Forgive me for the Pokemon rant, I was just in one my bad moods. I do think Pokemon is overrated though.
Well, I never listed SD on my list of "games that aren't that great."I meant SD, my fault.
I expect more character customization than just "use the crystal armor or the diamond armor."You expect complete character customization. Sure whatever you say. Rydia isn't that useless. She does have Leviathan and Bahamutt which do major damage.
It's trying to present something that isn't really there. It gives you like 30 minutes at the beginning of the game to make use of cyclone and slash, and then for the rest of the game, changes the gameplay into the gameplay of FF games. None of the enemies move anymore and you just resort to spamming screen spells.Doesn't prove why say it's bland.
If it's there for me to use, I think I should use it. That doesn't exactly seem like a reasonable justification. After all, if you hate a game's music, you could always turn it off.Unfortunately in Pokemon, you gotta do alot of work and use lots of time to get the right teams and attacks. If the FF5 classes are too cheap for you, use fair ones.
Oh, the ending of that game was a massive plot hole, which ruined the entire experience for me. I think the problem with that game is that at a certain point, 10 of the 13 abilities that you get are completely useless, and Umaro's massive club does less damage than a little paintbrush. This is the second time that a berzerker has sucked in Final Fantasy, and they're not going to fix this until FFX-2.There are bugs but not that much, just don't use Relm's Sketch so much. If Ultima bothers you, don't use it.
U nailed this one on the head. Some games just have a magical feel about them that makes u remember y u play video games in the first place. I totally agree with yur list of "the best games" (except for dmc3 cause i never played it)McFox said:You know what genre those two games are? It's called "The Best." Both of these have SOMETHING that most other games can't even compare to, and I don't even know what it is. But whatever it is, these two games have it, while most others don't.
Other games who have this magical quality that makes them awesome include the following:
Sonic 2
Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Sonic 3
Super Mario 64
Pokemon Red & Blue (the originals)
Devil May Cry 3
Other games are good, but most don't compare to the above list (and others that I've forgotten from this list).
Opinions are ignorant. A guy could say "my uncle is the nicest guy in the world" and he'd be wrong, because that's Bill Gates for giving millions of dollars to charity. I'm arguing because many opinions are formed ignorantly with limited basis. Most people just play 3-4 games before deciding that one of them is TEH BEST GAEM EVAR.Fierce Deity Vegeta said:Chris II...dude, these are just people's personal opinions...you don't need to argue with them about it...
I think my favourite game atm would have to be a toss-up between Fable and OoT...although I think I've played OoT a few too many times, I'm losing interest...