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[Ronike]

The buddying of me and flippy flopping and posts 172 - 179, where you basically just dodge omni's questions while trying to look like you aren't.

 

[Steel]

i buddied you? all i did was voted with you to get **** rolling

@ flip flopping

guess i didn't give omni straight yes or no answers if that's what you were looking for. just thought they were implied with what i gave him

 

[Tom]

what is going on with kirbyoshi?

cello its been a day. now would be a good time for this game's health to receive an injection of cello_town.

nix i am not comfortable with you at all right now. that first post was a bad showing. if you are going to make absolutely nothing out of omni's play except that you are going to keep an eye on him, then why include him in your comments. you basically just commented on the most active people and called it a day, after bringing nothing at all to the table.

Oh, and @Tom -

I thought Macman's post was funny because he suggested that people ignore 40% of what someone posted to keep from getting mindgamed. That's similar to what someone said about me in a game that I'm playing on AiB atm where I am scum and have the town down to 2 scum vs. 3 town and all but one think that I'm innocent.

ok. it seemed very weird that you would laugh at a joke macman made about my meta when ive only ever played with you in one game for one day. especially when that joke was about something he said in another game of mine you werent in... now that i think about it, i also need to figure out what game that was in and see if macman was even in that game. but your laughing at it piqued my interest.

His reasoning on why he might view things from your perspective makes sense, it's just since he made it public it would be easier for you (if you were scum) to manipulate him.

kevin already knew about my new strategy - i brought it up in a game in the LoD that we are both in right now. so, no.

Nix is getting the rest of his make-up work done from having a week off of classes due to a giant snowstorm and working on a Presentation on Robotics that's due tomorrow before having a three-day weekend.

Was gonna post tomorrow after my classes, but that would put me past the 2 day deadline. So, here we go!

Fever - You guys know his play style more then me and there doesn't seem to be "too" much of a problem with what he is doing (and to be honest, his play style seems very similar to mine usually) but his little conversation with Tom makes me feel a bit weird as I know from Sleepover me and Marshy did a few of those to throw of suspicion.

Omni - Yes, I am suspicious of you only for the reason is that you are trying to get us out of RVS (and you did it fast), and it would be a epic mafia play to actually do that to receive less suspicion later on in the game. Take no offense though, as I usually suspect all the people that take charge for the same reason.

Steel - Your current postings seem all to similar to Sleepover =P Avoiding the questions and not really giving a answer and considering I was your scum buddy in that game.....yea >_>

Don't really get anything else sticking out at me so *Shrug*

you give three reads that i cant tell if they are null-reads or not, and you dont vote, and then after those three null-reads you say you have nothing else. i pointed this out earlier, but this post sucks.

you also need to compound on what you said about bunglefever's conversation with me. basically you just cast suspicion in a weak manner on four different players without voting. stop beating around the bush plz.

i need to look at omni/steel thing going on a bit more. im trying to determine if steel is the easy lynch or the right lynch atm.

@ryker: your "summary" post blows chunks son. no, im not voting who you say i am. plus, it doesnt seem at all like macman wants nix to take a bullet, it seemed like macman was trying to coax more out of nix before making a decision on his alignment. your post seemed like an oversimplification of every issue that was wrong about almost all of them. i dunno what this means about your alignment but it kinda seems like you *are* paying attention but you also are getting the wrong things out of each issue.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Vote Count

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Nix2100 (1) - Macman
Tom (1) - Kirbyoshi
Blue Yoshi (1) - Blue Yoshi
§teel (3) - Cello_Marl, Omni, Ryker
Omni (1) - Charged Achy Hobo
Bunglefever (1) - KevinM

Not voting (5): Nix2100, Tom, §teel, Ronike, Bunglefever

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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline = 2/25 midnight

btw are center-aligned votecounts better than the usual ones or are they just annoying​

 

[Tom]

too early for me to comfortably give a scumlist

 

[DtJ Jungle]

kevin already knew about my new strategy - i brought it up in a game in the LoD that we are both in right now. so, no.

im supposed to know that how? and i dont know why, even if you HAVE told him before, why he wouldnt use that knowledge to his benefit if he were scum

 

[Tom]

im not judging you for not knowing. im letting you know, the fact that i made it public in this game doesnt make it any easier for him if he is scum.

 

[Nix2100]

you give three reads that i cant tell if they are null-reads or not, and you dont vote, and then after those three null-reads you say you have nothing else. i pointed this out earlier, but this post sucks.

you also need to compound on what you said about bunglefever's conversation with me. basically you just cast suspicion in a weak manner on four different players without voting. stop beating around the bush plz.

What is a null-read? This is the first game i've really seen that word so I'm not entirely sure of its meaning.

Regardless, people wanted to know what I was thinking, that was what was going through my head at the time, my apologies if it wasn't up to the usual smashboard standards.

The conversation..I don't know, I may have simply read to much into it as it was only really 4 posts of fluff...at the same time it could of been a attempt to get out of discussion and into the RVS.

Just because I don't have a vote, doesn't mean I am beating around the bush. I just simply do not have any strong enough feelings about someone to put a vote up yet.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@ryker: your "summary" post blows chunks son. no, im not voting who you say i am. plus, it doesnt seem at all like macman wants nix to take a bullet, it seemed like macman was trying to coax more out of nix before making a decision on his alignment. your post seemed like an oversimplification of every issue that was wrong about almost all of them. i dunno what this means about your alignment but it kinda seems like you *are* paying attention but you also are getting the wrong things out of each issue.

Which would be why I was asking for clarification.

On Macman's vote, I called it as I saw it and on your vote, I looked at the vote count and got it backward. I'm used to a vote spread that goes

Player A: Player A's First Vote -> Player A's Current Vote

I was confused as to why you had a vote there because I didn't remember anything about it. Looking at Marshy's current vote-spread, I see I got it backwards.

 

[Ronike]

Ryker, I thought this would be painfully obvious by now, but nobody on swf does a vote spread. Its all vote counts.

Nix: a null-tell is a tell that doesn't really tell you much, it could be done by either a scum or town. A null read then is basically that you aren't getting anything off them, town or scum.

 

[Omni]

Ronike you are so scummy this game

 

[Charged Achy Hobo]

if it was legit you'd have support. not everyone ignoring you. try agian.

No bull.
First of all the case did get support by §teel and Ronike, second few people have even posted so it's impossible to tell if it's "ignored" or people just didn't post yet. Third you have tried your hardest to sweep it under the rug instead of actually comment on it so it's no surprise that people ignored it - you have yet to give a good respond to the case itself.

Seriously needs to die.

i'm also tempted to say dumb or scum, but there are two of you. i guess two heads aren't always better than one

Discrediting the player instead of responding to the actual accusation? Just tell us who your scumbuddies are and die already.

Chac_01, you bring up an interesting point, but is that all you got?

How much more can you ask for?

Ronike you are so scummy this game

Hey Scumni, call me when your done nudging the stronger players while selectively going after the weaker players. You're voting Blue Yoshi because he's an easy target. You think Ronike is scum but fail to adress anything specific amd you don't vote him.

You
Are
Scum

 

[Omni]

Ronike you are so scummy this game

 

[Ronike]

Omni you are so scummy in this game

Oh wait, I don't say anything, so it don't mean nothing... Ready to put your money where your mouth is yet?

 

[KevinM]

Can we all just get along and lynch Bungle now.

 

[Tom]

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[#HBC | Mac]

voteello_marl

 

[DtJ Jungle]

cello reminding me of his play in L4S and newbie, where he was scum in both games

vote : Cello

sup dude?

 

[Omni]

Omni you are so scummy in this game

Oh wait, I don't say anything, so it don't mean nothing... Ready to put your money where your mouth is yet?

that's the reaction i was waiting for.

Heh, I know you've been lurking for a while, but even you should know Omni's not one to act like that when told someones gonna be inactive for a few days+ right when starting the game. And you know full well that my "bad logic" cases work quite often. Worked quite well on you in BIM and BSM, works on Marshy often, and just works for me. Whats wrong, trying to discredit me before I get you and your whole team lynched?

1.) extremely weak argument is weak. i know its been a while but i've never known you to latch onto weak arguments like this

But Omni, I'm not joking about you clearing him to lurk. Strep thoat is not something to give you a reason to lurk, in fact times when Ive had strep throat Ive become more active, so I think Ryker's bull (not about being sick, but about how he doesn't need to post) and I think its weird that you are being uncharacteristically nice about it.

1.a) continuation of weak argument. you get called out by myself and a few others while getting a bit of support from Steel. i then begin to grill Steel and i become rude towards Gheb/Chaco

Hmm... Well Omni's back to being typical Omni, which makes me feel better, and Ryker isn't lurking like he said he was going to (scared since he got called out?) which I suppose is a bit of a null tell... Right now I guess I'd feel comfy cozy with steel as our lynch target, bungle's startin to look nice too though... Hmm...

Chac_01, you bring up an interesting point, but is that all you got?

2.) dont understand how "typical Omni" has not been typical this entire game. mind clarifying? the ronike i know and love HATES when Omni gets a big head and/or plays egotistically i.e. ignoring Chaco/Gheb. so you feeling better about me rather than scolding me like usual is interesting. also, i agree with Tom that Steel could either be the obvious play or the easy play so you moving onto Steel's wagon AND suggesting bungle seems like a really safe commitment to make

The buddying of me and flippy flopping and posts 172 - 179, where you basically just dodge omni's questions while trying to look like you aren't.

i.e. repeat everything Omni already said

Ryker, I thought this would be painfully obvious by now, but nobody on swf does a vote spread. Its all vote counts.

Nix: a null-tell is a tell that doesn't really tell you much, it could be done by either a scum or town. A null read then is basically that you aren't getting anything off them, town or scum.

3.) you were silent for a while up until Ryker asked what a null-tell was. this is where my meta comes in.

i've noticed from a lot of swf mafia games that scum is VERY quick to jump into explanations of terms because it looks like they're being helpful and contributing, but what they're actually doing is filling empty space to give off that impression.

this wouldn't be a big deal but since you've been rubbing me in the wrong direction it was more than dully noted. regardless, your town game has been alarmingly weak but i dont consider you a weak player. thus you're starting to smell scummy.

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now i just have to decide between you and Steel in terms of who is scummier.

also seems like we're splitting up here. kevin is pinning jungle. tom is grilling cello and keeping an eye on Nix. Chaco/Gheb showing their horrible team thinking skills

mac, aka mr. proper grammar, thoughts on the game? you being silent for a long period of time doesnt really fit your typical style.

 

[Omni]

nm @ Mac. ninja'd =D

 

[Tom]

vote: cello_marl

 

[Omni]

i'm on cello_marl bandwagon in spirit to avoid a quick lynch. totally down with him dying due to intentional lurking

 

[Tom]

he is 3/7

be on the bandwagon in more than spirit

/extends my hand

 

[Omni]

unovte

Vote: Cello_Marl

igmeoy @ Ronike and Steel

 

[Ronike]

Look, Omni, I totally I agree with you, my play has sucked, and I apologize to all of you for the last couple of days for it. I really do mean that, hell I think its even worth this terrible AtE, but I do an apology is warranted. I'm gonna do better, just been having a bad few days.

 

[Tom]

yo ronike


relax

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Will join if you can answer me this:

Did my name appear next to it Tom? I've had it open on a tab all day long, but haven't been on my comp. I'm not sure how it reads you as actively viewing.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

...the hell are you talking about?

 

[Omni]

Ryker and Cello_Marl = same person?

 

[Tom]

Will join if you can answer me this:

Did my name appear next to it Tom? I've had it open on a tab all day long, but haven't been on my comp. I'm not sure how it reads you as actively viewing.

your name wasnt in the who's online in dgames, it was just me, cello, and magmarth

cello's last activity was also *recent* so it would have shown if it was old or new

 

[Tom]

you guys seriously dont know what hes talking about? he means his online status and whos online

i think ive been drugged and i still know what hes takling about

 

[Omni]

ohhhh. i was confused "will join" @ bandwagon.

awkwardly phrased.

@Ronike: =/ ... no comment for now

 

[Omni]

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[#HBC | Ryker]

Alright, just didn't want that to vote him for something that I myself was doing.

Vote: Cello

 

[Cello_Marl]

First of all, sorry to Marshy. I shouldn't have pretty much ignored this game as much as I have.

I was going to read what's been said at work (I made a text file of all the posts up to noon today), but the new girl wouldn't leave me alone. I was reading what's been said more thoroughly.

@Tom: I feel so violated. ;_; Although, did you just happen to notice me when I logged on, or were you waiting for me to show up?

Omni, shouldn't you try to find out why Nix and Blue Yoshi acted the way that they did? Nix was already said, essentially timidity, so why don't you try grilling him/getting information about that? That's just as useful meta. Such as, "Why do you think answering will get you lynched? If you asked those questions of someone else, what responses would you trust as genuine? Are you looking for anything in these responses yourself, and if you found anything useful, do you see why answering is a good idea?" For Blue Yoshi, it was because of his uselessness. Considering what you know of him, do you think that simply calling him useless will get him to open up? Can you think of anything else that you can ask that you think he will answer to get the information you are looking for?

Actually, @Nix, have you considered what scumtells may be different from epic mafia in forum? Further, do you think that a given action might be a scumtell for one person, but be null for another? Since you don't trust anyone 100%, I'm assuming you think that Tom assuming Kevin is town is foolish, but what do you think of the fact that he told us?

@Hobo, why are you still all up in Omni's grill about not responding to your case, when Steel passively evaded Omni's most important question. Why?

I don't like that Omni tried to simply chop out Hobo's feet from under him. How is saying "There is support for your cause, therefore you can't get support for your cause", credible in any way? Still, it's something I think Omni would say, so I don't think it's scummy, but I do think Omni should go into some real detail about why Hobo is wrong. Consider this Hobo's first bit of support on the subject.

Also, if you're expecting the happy-go-lucky everywhere me that's in Miller, it's not going to happen. That takes more energy to keep up than I thought it would, and I don't think I could do it in two games. Besides, it's not as effective as I thought it would be anyway.

 

[Tom]

Also, if you're expecting the happy-go-lucky everywhere me that's in Miller, it's not going to happen. That takes more energy to keep up than I thought it would, and I don't think I could do it in two games. Besides, it's not as effective as I thought it would be anyway.

that is exactly what i want, and if you dont do it then i will shoot you

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Is he really not gonna respond?

Also, fair warning, I should be leaving town tomorrow until late Sunday to go to a smash tourney. I'll probably post in between my classes tomorrow.

Chaco is in this game, so please make sure this message gets out to your game when it hits Day Phase.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ninja'd.

>: (

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I don't like that Omni tried to simply chop out Hobo's feet from under him. How is saying "There is support for your cause, therefore you can't get support for your cause", credible in any way? Still, it's something I think Omni would say, so I don't think it's scummy, but I do think Omni should go into some real detail about why Hobo is wrong. Consider this Hobo's first bit of support on the subject.

Wha? Am I the only one not quite following the logic here?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

tom soft claiming?

and @cello we arent looking for that much activity per se, but more than wht you gave us L4S and newbie, where you coasted pretty hardcore for your win, and more than you've been giving us up until this point