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Bandana Dee, the Spear Master! (v(- ' ' -)>↑ ~ Dee wait is killing us...

Do you want Bandana Dee in SSB4?


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I guess it makes sense he gives Super Star and Adventure the most attention considering everybody and their grandma thinks they're the best Kirby games. Even then, I wish the ones made after he left HAL got more recognition.
Yeah, the newer games definitely deserve more recognition. I mean, they decide to create a new Kirby stage on Smash 3DS, there's a new Kirby game released on 3DS on the same year, and the stage is based on.... Kirby's Dream Land? Seriously?
 
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Yeah, the newer games definitely deserve more recognition. I mean, they decide to create a new Kirby stage on Smash 3DS, there's a new Kirby game released on 3DS on the same year, and the stage is based on.... Kirby's Dream Land? Seriously?
To give them credit Dedede and Kirby's retro alts look perf on that stage. Otherwise... there was no real reason for it to be made. They really should make a Canvas Curse stage or something.
 
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On another note, I wanted to share this idea I had for a 25h anniversary Kirby game, or just a non-anniversary title that serves as Kirby's first game on the NX or one that comes out late in the Wii U's lifetime.

Spoilers because this is gonna be looooong.

This little visionary project of mine is called Kirby of the Stars. (which is what basically every Kirby game is called in Japan, along with the anime but it's not really affiliated with that.) So, basically the story is that Dedede likes to stargaze out of his castle every night, particularly at the moon. Being the gullible guy he is, he believes the myth that it's made of cheese. So, he decides to take it for his own while creating his own galactic force made out of his goonies (Waddle Dees, Waddle Doos, y'know), taking over planets and their civilizations solely just for their food. Kirby learns of this plan, and it's meant to be his first space-bound adventure (Kirby 64 exists but still). I imagine there would be full voice acting in the game, with Dedede having his 4Kids voice, and Meta Knight his Brawl voice. I also wanna give Bandana Dee his own voice and personality as well, but Kirby will just be limited to physical actions, emotes and simple speech like "Hi!" and "Poyo!".

Despite how silly the premise may sound, I want it to be somewhat more emotional than past Kirby games, and I've toyed around with it Kirby inadvertently learning of his origins due to the outer space setting. At one point, I have a scene were Meta Knight does one thing nobody ever thought he'd do: take off his mask and reveal his true identity to Kirby. This is to reveal to Kirby he's not the only one of his kind. I envision the entire project as a balance between lighthearted and emotional in terms of tone, but not being so far off in terms of that so it's only Kirby in-name.

As for the music, I'd really like if it were a collaboration between the regular Kirby composers who've done almost every Kirby game to date (Jun Ishikawa, Hirokazu Ando, possibly Shogo Sakai) along with the music team behind the Super Mario Galaxy games and Skyward Sword (Mahito Yokota yooo). The music is meant to fit in the spirit of Kirby, but obviously more epic and rousing. Fully orchestrated music, territory that Kirby has yet to reach.

If this were a game, it'd be Kirby's first fully 3D platformer with some action elements as per usual for the franchise. On the ground for planets he visits, he'll be able to use melee attacks by kicking with his feet or hitting enemies with his arms similar to Smash Bros, but no to the point where he's just Fighter Kirby without the bandana on. He'd probs have his dash attack from Smash 64 as an offensive attack. He'll be able to suck enemies up and use copy abilities, but he'd be able to stockpile them like in Squeak Squad!

At the end of a level, he might sometimes go on a Warp Star to go through a free-flying segment where he'll fly through a hub in space to discover small moons or ships (like Meta Knight's Halberd) before you go to the next world (similarly to Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time, but flying in whatever direction instead of being limited to left and right), or encounter a boss. A new addition would be Cosmic Abilities, where he can copy abilities of items in space, such as comets flying through the hubs. Imagine becoming Comet Kirby and becoming a prety crystal ball as you fly through space! I've thought of having Meta Knight, Dedede or Bandana Dee as amigo characters in some specific levels or being able to play through the entire game with either of them after you finish it, but eh.

As for a villain, I'm planning for a bigger bad to ursurp Dedede some point in the plot. I was thinking Nightmare or some new villain, but all I know is that I want him/her to be absolutely terrifying and hiss-worthy, a thing I miss when it comes to most antagonists nowadays. But not too scary. This is Kirby, after all... save for the eldritch abominations which are the final bosses.

Similar to Kid Icarus: Uprising and Smash Bros., you'd be able to collect idols/trophies of characters, items and planets as you progress throughout the story mode. I thought it'd be cool to have a sequel to Kirby Fighters, but with having it named Kirby Fighers of the Stars. Instead of just multicolored Kirbies, you'd have access to other characters like Knuckle Joe, Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, Bandana Dee, King Dedede, Dr. Dedede, Prince Fluff, Magolor and possibly more. A ton of character throughout Kirby's history brawling it out, fitting for his 25th anniversary game. Only the Kirbies would be able to use copy abilities, but other characters would have advantages to fend those off.

I'm still working things out, but this is all of what I had in mind so far! If you have any suggestions, feel free to give me some!

(I brought this over from a post I made over on the Kirby reddit and a forum I also go on, but I added some ideas that weren't mentioned when I originally posted it over at those places.)
 
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Alright, so I've been working on something in celebration of the Dee, in an effort to control some of my hype...



I don't usually draw characters that aren't original, but I just felt I had to make an exception here.:)

Let me know what you all think. Take it easy on me though, guys... I rarely show anyone my work...:nervous:

Edit: Oh, and when I say 'characters that aren't original', I mean characters not coming from myself. Bdee is as original as they come!:grin:
 
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Honestly, I think it looks really good!

Artwork of Bandana Dee is always appreciated. :)
So if you ever make more pictures of him, feel free to show us!
 

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Honestly, I think it looks really good!

Artwork of Bandana Dee is always appreciated. :)
So if you ever make more pictures of him, feel free to show us!
Thanks!:chuckle: I did have an idea to do a sheet of a bunch of different Dee poses and emotions, so I might do something with that. I tend to obsess over details, so it takes me forever to make stuff (especially if I colorize it), but I might be able to squeeze some time in to do it... Maybe I'll have it ready by the time Bdee is announced!;)
 

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Is it just me, or are there some games where there is a pointless fight against Dedede? Squeak Squad and Mass Attack are the two that primarily spring to mind (I mean seriously Dedede, you can talk. We have seen Super Star Ultra. You should have just explained that you didn't take the cake.) The bracketed section also shows that if Dedede wasn't an idiot, Adventure/Nightmare in Dream Land would have never happened.
 

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It's hard to reason with Kirby when he jumps into your living quarters and starts destroying everything.
 

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It's hard to reason with Kirby when he jumps into your living quarters and starts destroying everything.
This doesn't explain Adventure. Dedede was just being an idiot in the Fountain when he could have just as easily stood and waited for anyone who came to check it out to explain to them why the Fountain was 'broken'.
 
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tbh I kinda wish the Kirby games had voice acting. Nuanced voice acting but still voice acting really. Just don't pull it off like something akin to Sunshine and we're good.
 

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tbh I kinda wish the Kirby games had voice acting. Nuanced voice acting but still voice acting really. Just don't pull it off like something akin to Sunshine and we're good.
I don't really think that voice acting fits in a Kirby game :drwtf:
At most, make them talk like the Animal Crossing villagers with gibberish languague :drshrug:
But that's just my opinion:drifloon:
 
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Wrong. It was a Starman the whole time who took on the form of Ness, T2 style.
 
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I don't really think that voice acting fits in a Kirby game :drwtf:
At most, make them talk like the Animal Crossing villagers with gibberish languague :drshrug:
But that's just my opinion:drifloon:
Same. Other than Kirby's little words he says at times, there's not point to me for narrated dialog, imo.
 
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I don't really think that voice acting fits in a Kirby game :drwtf:
At most, make them talk like the Animal Crossing villagers with gibberish languague :drshrug:
But that's just my opinion:drifloon:
Them speaking gibberish would just feel so wrong, especially with the kinds of personalities most of the Kirby characters have. I think it'd rather be something where Kirby's the only one that can't speak fluently due to the fact he's so young like in the anime.
 

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Am I missing something? Why do people keep calling it that? And are you talking about Super Star or Triple Deluxe?
I apologise for being confusing! This is a habit cultivated almost twenty years ago that I simply cannot break! :laugh:

I am referring to Kirby Super Star. It was released in Japan as Hoshi no Kirby Super Deluxe, in North America as Kirby Super Star, and it was supposed to be Kirby Super Deluxe in PAL regions, but had its name changed at the very last minute, about two weeks before release, to the truly terrible "Kirby's Fun Pak".

I followed the game through the press for an entire year, and by the time the name-change came along, I could simply never break the habit of using the name it was supposed to have, nor have I ever been able to since. :laugh:

Also, Kirby Super Deluxe is apparently what Kirby Super Star is called in Japan, I always thought that it was called Kirby's Fun Pak over there but it turns out that that's what they call it in Europe. I kinda have to wonder why they didn't just stick to one name, I don't really see why they named it something different in every region? To confuse people endlessly?
Nah, it's Kirby's Fun Pak, here. It came so close to retaining the Kirby Super Deluxe name, though, that there are even people who, to this day, still don't know that it was ever released in PAL regions at all, because they never heard about the last-minute change to Kirby's Fun Pak! :eek:

It's weird, because on our Wii U eshop, It's called Super Star and we have Super Star Ultra.
This is because they're now using the NTSC release for ease of emulation (the original PAL version was properly optimised to begin with, so there is no perceptible difference in how either one plays), and, presumably, to keep the naming scheme in line with Kirby Super Star Ultra, which they thankfully opted not to rename for Europe, Australia, and all.

It's not fair! We have so many games that are renamed horribly!

Kirby's Fun Pak
Kirby: Power Paintbrush
Kirby Mouse Attack
Kirby's Adventure Wii
Kirby and the Rainbow Paintbrush
Kirby's Ghost Trap

WHY
Kirby's Ghost Trap was chronologically the first of these, but also possibly the only sensible one. I actually like it better than "Kirby's Avalanche", myself, and you guys know that I'm one of the biggest critics of this pointless renaming phenomenon around here. :laugh:

Kirby's Adventure Wii is the weirdest one - it's actually spiritually close to the original Japanese title (simply "Hoshi no Kirby Wii"), but it lacks the obvious meaningfulness of the name Kirby's Return to Dream Land.

Kirby Mouse Attack... Ugh... Why?!

The others were just unnecessary.

Alright, so I've been working on something in celebration of the Dee, in an effort to control some of my hype...



I don't usually draw characters that aren't original, but I just felt I had to make an exception here.:)

Let me know what you all think. Take it easy on me though, guys... I rarely show anyone my work...:nervous:

Edit: Oh, and when I say 'characters that aren't original', I mean characters not coming from myself. Bdee is as original as they come!:grin:
I really like your style - it's very professional-looking! Please draw more. :grin:

This is nothing short of adorable. :bee:

Is it just me, or are there some games where there is a pointless fight against Dedede? Squeak Squad and Mass Attack are the two that primarily spring to mind (I mean seriously Dedede, you can talk. We have seen Super Star Ultra. You should have just explained that you didn't take the cake.) The bracketed section also shows that if Dedede wasn't an idiot, Adventure/Nightmare in Dream Land would have never happened.
This doesn't explain Adventure. Dedede was just being an idiot in the Fountain when he could have just as easily stood and waited for anyone who came to check it out to explain to them why the Fountain was 'broken'.
Kirby is the idiot! :laugh: He's the one who didn't give Dedede the chance to explain what was going on before setting off to release Nightmare from the fountain and give him a chance at ultimate power!

I don't really think that voice acting fits in a Kirby game :drwtf:
This is my take also. :p

Them speaking gibberish would just feel so wrong, especially with the kinds of personalities most of the Kirby characters have. I think it'd rather be something where Kirby's the only one that can't speak fluently due to the fact he's so young like in the anime.
But the anime isn't canon in any way - everyone is completely out-of-character, and they made Kirby a lot younger purely to satisfy Sakurai's edict that he mustn't speak in the show. ;)
 
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>implying Right Back At Ya! Dedede isn't the best Dedede incarnation there is

tbh tho yeah, you have a point. The anime isn't canon so I probably shouldn't have used that to back up my point.
 

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>implying Right Back At Ya! Dedede isn't the best Dedede incarnation there is
Haha! :laugh: Oh no no, as a Dededecades-long Dededevoted Dedede fan, I'm very open in my dislike of that. ;)

I don't at all begrudge that others like it, though - I can understand why even if I happen to dislike it myself. :)
 

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Kirby is the idiot! :laugh: He's the one who didn't give Dedede the chance to explain what was going on before setting off to release Nightmare from the fountain and give him a chance at ultimate power!
But why was Dedede bathing in said fountain when he could have just as easily been standing near the Fountain and explaining why the Star Rod wasn't there? Also, I completely deviated from the original section which is why do some games have pointless battles with Dedede? Games can go without him (see Mirror and Rainbow Curse). Mass Attack and Squeak Squad easily had the most pointless Dedede battles.

Anyway, I have a similar thing to you calling Super Star Super Deluxe. Every time I go to talk about Fighters Deluxe I think Fighters Z. I want to say that but I feel people will be more confused that way.
 

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But why was Dedede bathing in said fountain when he could have just as easily been standing near the Fountain and explaining why the Star Rod wasn't there?
Well, he can be a bit lazy. May as well chill out in the water, as penguins do, right? :laugh:

Also, I completely deviated from the original section which is why do some games have pointless battles with Dedede? Games can go without him (see Mirror and Rainbow Curse). Mass Attack and Squeak Squad easily had the most pointless Dedede battles.
You know, I really don't know.

Mass Attack's is pointless. I can't quibble there.

Squeak Squad's (there's another game I just can't use the European name for! :laugh:) at least kind of emphasises Kirby's habit of occasionally acting without thinking, though. :laugh:

Anyway, I have a similar thing to you calling Super Star Super Deluxe. Every time I go to talk about Fighters Deluxe I think Fighters Z. I want to say that but I feel people will be more confused that way.
If it's what you're used to, just go with it! Most fans will know anyway, and at the very least it's something relevant to the subject-matter to discuss if it does happen to confuse anyone. :)
 

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Them speaking gibberish would just feel so wrong, especially with the kinds of personalities most of the Kirby characters have. I think it'd rather be something where Kirby's the only one that can't speak fluently due to the fact he's so young like in the anime.
But, Magolor already speaks gibberish :drsad:
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Obviously it wouldn't be necessary for some characters like Kirby or Meta Knight but you get the idea :dr^_^:
Squeak Squad's (there's another game I just can't use the European name for! :laugh:) at least kind of emphasises Kirby's habit of occasionally acting without thinking, though. :laugh:
Well, Dedede has a reputation for stealing food :drshrug:
He probably could have said something except he didn't because the game needed a first boss :drwtf:
 
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Did you know that one of the first appearances of the modern Kirby design (full cheek blushes) was Kirby's Adventure, and that Sleep was technically the first ability to get a hat, also in Adventure.

Evidence:


Edit: Also, Chalo5000 Chalo5000 that video unintentionally solved a problem I completely forgot about until now. That song appears in Triple Deluxe sound test and because you posted that vid, I now know where to find it if I want to listen to it.
 
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Did you know that one of the first appearances of the modern Kirby design (full cheek blushes) was Kirby's Adventure, and that Sleep was technically the first ability to get a hat, also in Adventure.

Evidence:

The more you know, indeed. That's actually pretty interesting.

Can I say that I absolutely adore Adventure's art style? It just looks so sumptuous, especially for an NES game. The use of colors, the sprites and the artwork in general are just gorgeous. HAL definitely outdid themselves.
 

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But it was that one* time that led to this conversation.

*Could be considered two times if one considers Spring Breeze separate form Dream Land.
I don't count Spring Breeze as separate, myself. Even so, there's still Kirby's Dream Land's Extra Game to consider...

So I must concede that technically it's still twice, though in a short time-span. :laugh:

So...

Two times, man, two times! :laugh:
 

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I don't count Spring Breeze as separate, myself. Even so, there's still Kirby's Dream Land's Extra Game to consider...

So I must concede that technically it's still twice, though in a short time-span. :laugh:

So...

Two times, man, two times! :laugh:
Yeah, but things can stick even if they are no longer relevant. I don't think I have spoken about Halo (the game series, just to clear all confusion) at school in at least 3 years, but I am commonly accepted as 'the Halo guy'. That probably won't break. I can maybe replace that with Kirby, but if it hasn't been replaced by Pokemon so far, I don't know why Kirby would replace it.
 

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Can we all agree that Kirby always acts on impulse and that Dedede and Meta Knight will never actually explain something? :drfacepalm:
Seriously, just
- Kirby, don't do that, you'll release Nightmare :4dedede:
- I don't have your cake, stop bothering me :4dedede:
- Kirby, there's no cake in that chest, only darkness :4metaknight:
I wouldn't mind some dialogue as long as it isn't voice acted :drshrug:
Also, I found this gif :kirby:
 
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Can we all agree that Kirby always acts on impulse and that Dedede and Meta Knight will never actually explain something? :drfacepalm:
Seriously, just
- Kirby, don't do that, you'll release Nightmare :4dedede:
- I don't have your cake, stop bothering me :4dedede:
- Kirby, there's no cake in that chest, only darkness :4metaknight:
I wouldn't mind some dialogue as long as it isn't voice acted :drshrug:
=u= Kirby does whatever he wants, as long if it means he can cause mass murde- uh I mean get's to eat all the yummy food. Yeah, that. xD
 
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