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Bandana Dee, the Spear Master! (v(- ' ' -)>↑ ~ Dee wait is killing us...

Do you want Bandana Dee in SSB4?


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CodeBlue_

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@BoxedOccaBerrys post reminds me that we haven't discussed how Bandana Dee could actually play in this game in a while.

I haven't seen movesets discussion on this thread since pre-release, but I think it would be interesting to discuss before he is possibly revealed.

I think he'll work like the helpers in Super Star in that he'll have five midair jumps like the other Kirby chars in Smash. Outside of that, it would be his Spearcopter for Neutral B along with his other spear moves (I'm assuming the Spear ability from Triple Deluxe is similar to BWD in RtDL?). His Final Smash is up in the air though; I believe we discussed the Waddle Dee Tank a while back.

What do you guys think?
 
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His Final Smash is up in the air though, I believe we discussed the Waddle Dee Tank a while back.

What do you guys think?
Ever since I got here, it seems to have been the general consensus that it should be Megaton Punch, as a nod to his debut. I'm in that school of thought, myself.
 

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@BoxedOccaBerrys post reminds me that we haven't discussed how Bandana Dee could actually play in this game in a while.

I haven't seen movesets discussion on this thread since pre-release, but I think it would be interesting to discuss before he is possibly revealed.

I think he'll work like the helpers in Super Star in that he'll have five midair jumps like the other Kirby chars in Smash. Outside of that, it would be his Spearcopter for Neutral B along with his other spear moves (I'm assuming the Spear ability from Triple Deluxe is similar to BWD in RtDL?). His Final Smash is up in the air though; I believe we discussed the Waddle Dee Tank a while back.

What do you guys think?
RtDL pretty much provides the skeleton of his Smash moveset. Jabs, dash attack, and some specials can be lifted directly. (Some call it lazy, others call it faithful; you decide)

As for his final Smash, I agree with Tortilla Noggin - Megaton Punch.

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Oh yeah, I do remember you guys talking about it.

Megaton Punch would make sense considering Sakurai likes referencing older Kirby titles.

I think it would be a glorified mix of Palutena's Up Smash and Zelda's Light Arrow, looking more similar to the former.

I doubt Sakurai would give an animation for WD breaking the ground below him, but I can dream. :upsidedown:
 

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So.. which characters you are predicting now?


I'm personally sticking with Wolf-Rool-Dee-Isaac prediction. I still don't see Shovel Knight as likely, as I don't believe that those tweets mean anything.
I just think they seem more than just hints to me.

As much as I hate to say this, I'm worried about Isaac's chances now, because I'm still holding to four characters, and since Wolf and K Rool are the most requested worldwide, I think they'll appear.

At least I think our Dee is more likely than before!

It's probably just that Star Fox was unrepresented on the costumes front. Remember, aside from just applying these costumes to Mii Fighters, you can also assign them to the three Mii Fighter Amiibos, and they're going to want plenty of variety as a value-add for that investment. ;)


Most definitely the original. There are some good arrangements of it that have been made since, but nothing beats the original. :grin:

Also, while I'm here, I've just sketched up a quick doodle showing Bandana Waddle Dee looking nervous as the end of the ballot approaches;

I don't think he needs to worry. If he's in, he knows it, but isn't allowed to talk about it yet.
 
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Furret24

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Five pages to go, a little more than one day left.

Can we make it?
 
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Ah, it was like yesterday when I first joined the Bandana Dee thread, seeing that the Ballot had already started, I wanted to find a place that focused on BD and Kirby, which is where this site comes into play, once I found this site I made an account and made my first post on this thread, and then I was recruited and initiated by @BandanaWaddleDee, and ever since I've had a lot of fun adventures and memories here! And I have to say, thank you everyone! :)
 
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Ah, it was like yesterday when I first joined the Bandana Dee thread, seeing that the Ballot had already started, I wanted to find a place that focused on BD and Kirby, which is where this site comes into play, once I found this site I made an account and made my first post on this thread, and then I was recruited and initiated by @BandanaWaddleDee, and ever since I've had a lot of fun adventures and memories here! And I have to say, thank you everyone! :)
In a weeks time, you'll have been here for six months. Congrats.
 

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@BoxedOccaBerrys post reminds me that we haven't discussed how Bandana Dee could actually play in this game in a while.

I haven't seen movesets discussion on this thread since pre-release, but I think it would be interesting to discuss before he is possibly revealed.

I think he'll work like the helpers in Super Star in that he'll have five midair jumps like the other Kirby chars in Smash. Outside of that, it would be his Spearcopter for Neutral B along with his other spear moves (I'm assuming the Spear ability from Triple Deluxe is similar to BWD in RtDL?). His Final Smash is up in the air though; I believe we discussed the Waddle Dee Tank a while back.

What do you guys think?
TBH, I think to help him stand out, they might make Bandana Dee DEE first Kirby character to NOT have multiple jumps, and that they'll limit it to two. Also, I honesty can't decide just WHAT B.D.'s FS should be. Seriously, the cute little guy's just THAT unique. He's got more Final Smash options than you could shake a stick at! So far,, these are my ideas:
Megaton Punch - An even MORE OP version of the move form Kirby Super Star. Matter of fact, I would be so hype if THIS actually happened:
If not this, then I'd say make Megaton Punch his Down Special.

Waddle Dee Army - Essentially, he would inherit King Dedede's FS from Brawl, but much more usable, if that makes sense to anyone. Maybe with some Super Star (Ultra) enemies thrown into the mix.

Spear Rain- He would instantly summon EVERY Waddle Dee in King Dedede's army, and on his command, they would toss spears at EXTREMELY high speeds at opponents. BTW, I've always envisioned this to be in the style of Duck Hunt's FS.

Waddle Dee Tank - Bandana Dee would summon a Waddle Dee Tank from Scope Shot from RtD, hop inside it, and proceed to shoot down opponents.

BTW, look what I came across!


Also: http://prcm.jp/list/ワドルディ
 
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TBH, I think to help him stand out, they might make Bandana Dee DEE first Kirby character to NOT have multiple jumps, and that they'll limit it to two. Also, I honesty can't decide just WHAT B.D.'s FS should be. Seriously, the cute little guy's just THAT unique. He's got more Final Smash options than you could shake a stick at! So far,, these are my ideas:
Megaton Punch - An even MORE OP version of the move form Kirby Super Star. Matter of fact, I would be so hype if THIS actually happened:
If not this, then I'd say make Megaton Punch his Down Special.
Waddle Dee Army - Essentially, he would inherit King Dedede's FS from Brawl, but much more usable, if that makes sense to anyone. Maybe with some Super Star (Ultra) enemies thrown into the mix.
Spear Rain- He would instantly summon EVERY Waddle Dee in King Dedede's army, and on his command, they would toss spears at EXTREMELY high speeds at opponents. BTW, I've always envisioned this to be in the style of Duck Hunt's FS.
Waddle Dee Tank - Bandana Dee would summon a Waddle Dee Tank from Scope Shot from RtD, hop inside it, and proceed to shoot down opponents.

BTW, look what I came across!


Also:http://prcm.jp/list/ワドルディ
=u= Aww. BDee looks so cute, and the emotes in the background is even more so. xD
 
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TBH, I think to help him stand out, they might make Bandana Dee DEE first Kirby character to NOT have multiple jumps, and that they'll limit it to two. Also, I honesty can't decide just WHAT B.D.'s FS should be. Seriously, the cute little guy's just THAT unique. He's got more Final Smash options than you could shake a stick at! So far,, these are my ideas:
Megaton Punch - An even MORE OP version of the move form Kirby Super Star. Matter of fact, I would be so hype if THIS actually happened:
If not this, then I'd say make Megaton Punch his Down Special.

Waddle Dee Army - Essentially, he would inherit King Dedede's FS from Brawl, but much more usable, if that makes sense to anyone. Maybe with some Super Star (Ultra) enemies thrown into the mix.

Spear Rain- He would instantly summon EVERY Waddle Dee in King Dedede's army, and on his command, they would toss spears at EXTREMELY high speeds at opponents. BTW, I've always envisioned this to be in the style of Duck Hunt's FS.

Waddle Dee Tank - Bandana Dee would summon a Waddle Dee Tank from Scope Shot from RtD, hop inside it, and proceed to shoot down opponents.

BTW, look what I came across!


Also: http://prcm.jp/list/ワドルディ
Waddle Dee Army can be ruled out, 3DS can't (most likely) handle it.

I love the Deemotes pic.
 

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Waddle Dee Army can be ruled out, 3DS can't (most likely) handle it.
Really? Lots of enemies can appear on the screen in Smash Run. Humourously the only final battle that I have had that was fighting an enemy army, was a Kirby series one. Many Waddles can appear on the screen at once.
 

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If you thought that was cute, check out the link at the bottom that I left! It contains a couple of adorable Bandana Dee pics, some from Kirby's 20th Anniversary game! Here's a preview:
=U= Aww, perfect~! xD I just love tourist Dee and all the little BDee doodles. UvU
 
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Really? Lots of enemies can appear on the screen in Smash Run. Humourously the only final battle that I have had that was fighting an enemy army, was a Kirby series one. Many Waddles can appear on the screen at once.
Dedede's Final Smash was changed, which strongly suggests that 3DS can't handle WDA. I can't think any other reason why they changed it, as WDA was much better Final Smash to Dedede, the one in SSB4 is quite random imo.
 

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Really? Lots of enemies can appear on the screen in Smash Run. Humourously the only final battle that I have had that was fighting an enemy army, was a Kirby series one. Many Waddles can appear on the screen at once.
But in that case there will only be one playable character on screen.
 

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Dedede's Final Smash was changed, which strongly suggests that 3DS can't handle WDA. I can't think any other reason why they changed it, as WDA was much better Final Smash to Dedede, the one in SSB4 is quite random imo.
I agree that the 3DS issue is likely why it was changed, but I actually see the changes as being the other way around, myself. Both his Brawl Final Smash and side-special are a bit out-of-character for him (in fact, I've said this before, but they'd both be in-character for K. Rool!). Lazy though Dedede can be, he certainly isn't one to shy away from taking care of things in a fight!

In my view, the replacements are much better, more in-character, and more consistent (as @dangeraaron10 knows, you are to fear those Gordos! :laugh:), and Dedede Burst is a good nod to Kirby's Adventure.
 
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Dedede's Final Smash was changed, which strongly suggests that 3DS can't handle WDA. I can't think any other reason why they changed it, as WDA was much better Final Smash to Dedede, the one in SSB4 is quite random imo.
I thought it was changed due to being kind of random, and Sakurai wanted to remove a lot of random elements (I think this is also why Dedede got Gordo Throw over Waddle Toss and one of the factors in removing accidental tripping). Yes, there are some random moves (Kirby D-tilt, Green Missile), but for the most part, random accidents are much less likely.
 
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I agree that the 3DS issue is likely why it was changed, but I actually see the changes as being the other way around, myself. Both his Brawl Final Smash and side-special are a bit out-of-character for him (in fact, I've said this before, but they'd both be in-character for K. Rool!). Lazy though Dedede can be, he certainly isn't one to shy away from taking care of things in a fight!

In my view, the replacements are much better, more in-character, and more consistent (as @dangeraaron10 knows, you are to fear those Gordos! :laugh:), and Dedede Burst is a good nod to Kirby's Adventure.
I think Masked Dedede would've been more fitting than both WDA and Dedede Burst. But I agree that most replacement Final Smashes are better than originals, expect Kirby's (Cook Kirby was much more unique than another sword thing).

I thought it was changed due to being kind of random, and Sakurai wanted to remove a lot of random elements (I think this is also why Dedede got Gordo Throw over Waddle Toss and one of the factors in removing accidental tripping). Yes, there are some random moves (Kirby D-tilt, Green Missile), but for the most part, random accidents are much less likely.
That could be another reason for the change, but I still think the 3DS was the main reason.
 

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Any of the super abilities would have fit, but I think the reason Ultra Sword was chosen was due to it being used to kill two important bosses in Return to Dream Land.
 

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I think Masked Dedede would've been more fitting than both WDA and Dedede Burst. But I agree that most replacement Final Smashes are better than originals, expect Kirby's (Cook Kirby was much more unique than another sword thing).
I agree, though to be honest, I'd prefer to see Masked Dedede as a purely-cosmetic alt for Dedede! :smash:

That could be another reason for the change, but I still think the 3DS was the main reason.
I'm inclined to agree that it's a bit of both.
 

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Hey, guys. Um...can I....post his here, please?
I just wanted to put this somewhere secure to show my little bro. I have to admit, he is a BOSS at Melee, and I just HAVE to show him this. If I need to take down, I will.
 

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Any of the super abilities would have fit, but I think the reason Ultra Sword was chosen was due to it being used to kill two important bosses in Return to Dream Land.
I would've preferred if it was a combination of all the Super Abilities. Like, he traps you with Flare Beam, then he slashes you with Ultra Sword a few times, then he hits you with the Grand Hammer while Monster Flame burns you, then lastly he rolls over you a few times with Snow Bowl, then finally the Flare Beam explodes.

I think the 3DS could've handled Waddle Dee Army. They might have to change it around a bit so that it's more of a Waddle Dee Army Stampede, but it's not like Waddle Dee Toss, the enemies in WDA are nothing more than hitboxes with models. If the 3DS can do 4 Rosalinas and 4 Lumas or 4 Olimars and 12 Pikmin, with items, then Waddle Dee Army shouldn't be a problem.
 
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Dedede's Final Smash was changed, which strongly suggests that 3DS can't handle WDA. I can't think any other reason why they changed it, as WDA was much better Final Smash to Dedede, the one in SSB4 is quite random imo.
It also sucks since you can easily escape it via airdodging, especially if you have a frame 2 airdodge like Mewtwo, G&W, Sheik, and a few others.
 

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I have just realized something. Gourmet Race was in Smash before Green Greens, or King Dedede's theme, or any of the other important Kirby songs.
 
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Not sure if it matters anymore, but I submitted my final vote for Dee, using my mobile phone. Going to send one for K. Rool tomorrow (using computer) and then I'm done with voting.
 

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Not sure if it matters anymore, but I submitted my final vote for Dee, using my mobile phone. Going to send one for K. Rool tomorrow (using computer) and then I'm done with voting.
I sort of feel bad because I never submitted a vote for Bandana Dee. Instead, I support him with my heart, spirit, and soul!
 

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Do you guys expect anything to actually happen on the 3rd? I mean, I can visualize everybody hyping up the closing before it happens, but still, do you think there will be anything noteworthy other than just "The Smash Ballot has concluded. Thank you for voting!"
 

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Do you guys expect anything to actually happen on the 3rd? I mean, I can visualize everybody hyping up the closing before it happens, but still, do you think there will be anything noteworthy other than just "The Smash Ballot has concluded. Thank you for voting!"
Yes, I do not necessarily think that they will reveal the winner or anything like that; however, I believe that we will receive more than the obligatory conclusion statement. It is possible that they might tell us the number of characters, maybe they will tell us that they have already started development, or perhaps we will get a model tease (what happened with Mewtwo).
 

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Do you guys expect anything to actually happen on the 3rd? I mean, I can visualize everybody hyping up the closing before it happens, but still, do you think there will be anything noteworthy other than just "The Smash Ballot has concluded. Thank you for voting!"
I honestly don't know - that's kind of what I'm finding fun about it!
 

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Do you guys expect anything to actually happen on the 3rd? I mean, I can visualize everybody hyping up the closing before it happens, but still, do you think there will be anything noteworthy other than just "The Smash Ballot has concluded. Thank you for voting!"
You have a good point, considering who we're working with. I don't think Sakurai would come and tell us the winners, he's either going to A: go the business route and give us an exact date and time for the announcement, or B: go the hype route and reveal all of the winners on different days to keep the suspense going.
 

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You have a good point, considering who we're working with. I don't think Sakurai would come and tell us the winners, he's either going to A: go the business route and give us an exact date and time for the announcement, or B: go the hype route and reveal all of the winners on different days to keep the suspense going.
Honestly, option A sounds MUCH more hype worthy to me.
 
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