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Bandana Dee, the Spear Master! (v(- ' ' -)>↑ ~ Dee wait is killing us...

Do you want Bandana Dee in SSB4?


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OK, new topic, what would you prefer?
Fountain of Dreams returning, Return to Dream Land stage, Triple Deluxe stage or Rainbow Curse stage?
i would love Castle Dedede maybe we can have it on top of the castle and possibly a nighttime stage but with lights and a crowd in the backround it could be a mix of the super star stage and the dreamland 3 stage.
i think the tracks should be
Dedede's theme
Masked dedede
DIrty and Beauty
Magolor phase 1
CROWNED
Galacta knight
Miracle Matter
 

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I liked Pyrosphere.
Personally, I would find both Pyrosphere and Dr. Wily's Castle to be a lot better if the option were provided to toggle the bosses off or on - as it stands, the only option available is to use the Omega Forms, which remove all features and design elements, which isn't at all the same thing. The Yellow Devil in particular takes up way too much space and appears far too often (I play to fight others, not to fight the stages!). They're just too disruptive for my liking. Otherwise, I find the design of these stages to be fine.

Considering how nicely-balanced a stage it already is, adding a boss to Fountain of Dreams would ruin it, without a shadow of a doubt.
 

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Personally, I would find both Pyrosphere and Dr. Wily's Castle to be a lot better if the option were provided to toggle the bosses off or on - as it stands, the only option available is to use the Omega Forms, which remove all features and design elements, which isn't at all the same thing. The Yellow Devil in particular takes up way too much space and appears far too often (I play to fight others, not to fight the stages!). They're just too disruptive for my liking. Otherwise, I find the design of these stages to be fine.

Considering how nicely-balanced a stage it already is, adding a boss to Fountain of Dreams would ruin it, without a shadow of a doubt.
Can we agree that Guar Plain is great?
 

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Can we agree that Guar Plain is great?
Gaur Plain is a fantastic stage in both versions, and one of my absolute favourites in this game! :grin: (EDIT: My avatar may indicate that. The picture was taken on Gaur Plain 3DS, Omega Form.)

The difference is that Metal Face, in the Wii U version, has not been implemented in an obnoxious fashion. :laugh:
 
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The difference is that those are Bandana Dee clones created by Elline, not other Waddle Dees.
They will probably not appear again.

Please guys, seriously, stop posting things that are wrong.
I made a mistake, you don't have to go straight out and call me wrong because I made a mistake.

Also, what if someone doesn't know it's wrong? Then you're insulting them for no reason.

EDIT: Ignore this. It's "wrong."

EDIT: Why are people saying that if Isaac has a Mii costume it would be a shame for his fans? An optional costume for optional characters has nothing to do with another character getting into Smash, like K. Rool.
 
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I made a mistake, you don't have to go straight out and call me wrong because I made a mistake.

Also, what if someone doesn't know it's wrong? Then you're insulting them for no reason.

EDIT: Ignore this. It's "wrong."
I don't think it was meant to be taken personally.
 

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I made a mistake, you don't have to go straight out and call me wrong because I made a mistake.

Also, what if someone doesn't know it's wrong? Then you're insulting them for no reason.

EDIT: Ignore this. It's "wrong."
I'm tired of posting "don't do that" or "that's not true" like 5 times per day.
Not just here, but also in Youtube and Miiverse.
 

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I don't think it was meant to be taken personally.
I'm a sensitive person. I take things out of context and blow them out of proportions without intending to until it's too late.

I'm tired of posting "don't do that" or "that's not true" like 5 times per day.
Not just here, but also in Youtube and Miiverse.
If you're tired of doing it, then you can stop.
 
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I'm a sensitive person. I take things out of context and blow them out of proportions without intending to until it's too late.


If you're tired of doing it, then you can stop.
Sorry, but that part you just added, it's more complex than that. @ Chandeelure Chandeelure constantly tries to correct people, as they constantly make incorrect and unfactual statements about Bandana Dee. Examples include, "Why should we have a goomba?" "He's just a normal enemy!" "He's not Goku, eww!"
 
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Hey guys, I hope you don't mind a brief interruption, but @InASnowBoundLand posted a really good piece over in the K. Rool thread which I think deserves to be spread to other places, too. I'm quoting it below - just imagine Bandana Waddle Dee in place of King K. Rool, here. ;)

The recent conversation and the confidence gained from the SourceGaming observations leads me to touch on an uncomfortable subject: What if K. Rool is not DLC?

I think it is important for everyone to seriously consider this outcome and contemplate their reaction.

Firstly, as others have noted, character support groups are coalitions of people. That is, support groups are formed when individuals with varied backgrounds and interests unite to support a character they share in common. Inevitably, this means that despite a shared interest in K. Rool, individual tastes will differ. While some may be tried of "anime" characters, others might want more. To sustain this coalition and to respect other K. Rool fans, I think it is important to keep these differences in mind when we share negative comments about other characters, other series, or the game itself. This does not mean you should not be able to express dissatisfaction with any aspect of the game -- our individual differences deserve respect, too. Instead, this just means you should be thoughtful about what you say and how you say it. In addition to expressing your opinion, your goals should also include minimizing harm.

Secondly, appearances can be used strategically. We are one of the most visited threads in the Smash Bros community -- we are more-or-less K. Rool's "headquarters". Whatever happens with the DLC, we will receive visitors curious about our reaction. If K. Rool is not included, many will visit or lurk this topic just to see the "meltdowns". We should not give them the show they want to see. If you plan on throwing a tantrum or consider it appropriate to do so, reconsider. Not only does it make the rest of us feel uncomfortable, but it also alienates potentially sympathetic ears. While it is justifiable to be upset or even angry if K. Rool is not included, think carefully about how you express this discontent -- vitriol or melodramatic passive aggressiveness does not persuade anyone to our cause. Remember that many sympathetic ears are not as invested in K. Rool's appearance as we are; overzealous negativity can be a easy reason to dismiss our complaints.

My suggestion is to let an emotional post simmer, even overnight. Re-read your thoughts the next day and evaluate the content and style of your message. Consider the following questions: Are you respectfully explaining the reasons that K. Rool's exclusion was a poor decision? Are you remarks unreasonably uncharitable toward Sakurai and the development team? Is your language unnecessarily inflammatory?
Effective communication requires people to actually listen to you. People are less likely to listen to you if your substantive thoughts and their presentation suggest you are mostly interested in hearing yourself monologue. Framing your emotions as a "disappointment" can be a particularly effective way of moderating your tone.

Finally, consider that even if you are respectful, there will be people that will refuse to return the favor. If K. Rool is not added as DLC, expect to see condescension and rudeness from random jerks in this forum and elsewhere. This does not mean it is pointless to be civil -- random jerks aren't our only audience. Consequently, even if vitriol is only directed at those spouting it themselves, vitriol in itself "muddles" our image. When two people are flinging mud at each other, many won't care to discern who "started" the exchange. The best we can do, then, is to keep ourselves as "clean" as possible. This is not a "turn the other cheek" philosophy, however. We can and probably should use this to skewer those who try to bully us. Remaining as "clean" as possible allows us to do so by calling out other people's unreasonable behavior. This would not go unused: as many of you know, support groups are not the only ones with the possibility to breed extreme reactions. There is a significant portion of the community that will react with hostility if the game is criticized at all. Taking the "high ground" is probably the most effective tool against these people, as many of these individuals seem convinced that they own this realm simply because they only have positive things to say about the game.

To summarize, be as thoughtful as you can about the things you say in this thread. Imagine K. Rool's exclusion now so that you are prepared if it actually happens later. I have tried my best to do so, too. Note that I still think K. Rool is a likely inclusion. But it is important to think about all possibilities and prepare oneself accordingly.
And, with that, we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
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OK, new topic, what would you prefer?
Fountain of Dreams returning, Return to Dream Land stage, Triple Deluxe stage or Rainbow Curse stage?
I'd take ANY of them at this point, but here's my detailed explanation:
Fountain of Dreams: If FoD does return, it just HAS to have C-R-O-W-N-E-D, F-L-O-W-E-R-D, Nebula Belt (KAR), and (hopefully) a remix of Frozen Hillside.

RtD stage: Cookie Country, Nutty Noon, Egg Engines, Dangerous Dinner (Wow, a world with THAT name could ONLY be found in the Kirby series:laugh:) or Another Dimension, fighting on the Lor Starcutter (with Magolor attacking you in his boss form. Personally between you and me though, I want him as a playable character alongside Bandana Dee, Adeleine, and Gooey.)

Triple Deluxe stage: Flower Fields (in the style of a new and improved Green Greens), or Royal Road (with Taranza or Queen Sectonia attacking on some occasions.)

Rainbow Curse stage: Green Valley (just like Flower Fields, but basically a clay-crafted Green Greens. Sounds a like a cute idea when I say it now.:)), Blue Sky Palace, or Purple Fortress (just like with my idea for Royal Road, Claycia would occasionally attack fighters.)
 

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Rainbow Curse stage: Green Valley (just like Flower Fields, but basically a clay-crafted Green Greens. Sounds a like a cute idea when I say it now.:)), Blue Sky Palace, or Purple Fortress (just like with my idea for Royal Road, Claycia would occasionally attack fighters.)
I just want to say how much I really like this idea. It's because the visual side has so much "Toy Factor" to it, the same as the Yoshi's Woolly World stage does.

Also, since all DLC stages are available for both Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U, it means I'd be able to get a portable version of that, as well - the 3DS version currently lacks any stages with those sorts of visuals.
 

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I just want to say how much I really like this idea. It's because the visual side has so much "Toy Factor" to it, the same as the Yoshi's Woolly World stage does.

Also, since all DLC stages are available for both Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U, it means I'd be able to get a portable version of that, as well - the 3DS version currently lacks any stages with those sorts of visuals.
Why, thank you SO much! you know it's the funniest thing, I wanted to go for either a "Toy" theme for all of this, or a "Carnival" theme, if that makes any sense!:laugh: Matter of fact, when I say it now, maybe my RC stage ideas could all be combined to become one whole RC-themed stage! Basically, think Smash 4's Mushroom Kingdom U, but with ALL 7 worlds in the game included! Just to play up that "Clay Carnival" theme I'm thinking of!
 
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Reposting from the Wolf Thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3l0exp/evidence_of_another_stage_coming_explanation_in/

Take as you will. Some in the K. Rool thread, like many others, have noticed that the Mario Maker is strangely shoved to the side in the Extra Stage CSS instead of center aligned in the trailer. In addition, the link above states that there is a missing stage. Ryu's stage is bundled with him and thus doesn't have its own spot. Super Mario Maker is Stage 5. Peach's Castle 64 and Hyrule Castle 64 are 2 and 3. Stage 4 is missing. A link to it is broken.

It's theorized that it's highly possible another stage will be coming, possibly alongside Mario Maker. And it's likely not a stage for a new franchise, or at least one bundled with a character of a new franchise, otherwise it wouldn't be there like Ryu's bundled stage.
My hope is Sector Z or Saffron City. Especially Saffron City. I'd ask for Fountain of Dreams, but its signature music is already on Dreamland 64.
 

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Reposting from the Wolf Thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3l0exp/evidence_of_another_stage_coming_explanation_in/

Take as you will. Some in the K. Rool thread, like many others, have noticed that the Mario Maker is strangely shoved to the side in the Extra Stage CSS instead of center aligned in the trailer. In addition, the link above states that there is a missing stage. Ryu's stage is bundled with him and thus doesn't have its own spot. Super Mario Maker is Stage 5. Peach's Castle 64 and Hyrule Castle 64 are 2 and 3. Stage 4 is missing. A link to it is broken.

It's theorized that it's highly possible another stage will be coming, possibly alongside Mario Maker. And it's likely not a stage for a new franchise, or at least one bundled with a character of a new franchise, otherwise it wouldn't be there like Ryu's bundled stage.
My hope is Sector Z or Saffron City. Especially Saffron City. I'd ask for Fountain of Dreams, but its signature music is already on Dreamland 64.
I was also thinking Yoshi's Island 64, but it's music is in the game as well.
 

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I don't think the music is a strong argument against a stage coming back, because swapping songs between stages would be an easy work. Not saying I am expecting Fountain of Dreams to be released, but I wouldn't write it off yet. Same goes to Frigate Orpheon, Mushroom Kingdom II, etc.
 

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Wait a minute, @Shadow Keeby and @ Reila Reila voted no In the poll I just saw. Sorry to ask, but was this a mistake? :(
Oh, I used to be a Bandana Dee detractor. @ Chandeelure Chandeelure probably still hates me to this day lol. Probably not. I hope.

I posted one week ago or so that I changed my mind from "ew no" to "well, why not?" when it comes to Bandana Dee. My favorite choice for a Kirby rep still is Adoleine, but I am aware she has no chances whatsoever, so I am jumping in the Bandana Dee bandwagon, since I want a new Kirby rep. Magolor would be nice, too.
 

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Oh, I used to be a Bandana Dee detractor. @ Chandeelure Chandeelure probably still hates me to this day lol. Probably not. I hope.

I posted one week ago or so that I changed my mind from "ew no" to "well, why not?" when it comes to Bandana Dee. My favorite choice for a Kirby rep still is Adoleine, but I am aware she has no chances whatsoever, so I am jumping in the Bandana Dee bandwagon, since I want a new Kirby rep. Magolor would be nice, too.
Well thanks for telling us! :)
 

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I want this thread to be decent, not full of off-topic and wrong posts, thank you.
I honestly understand the off topic part, we need to control how much that happens around here, I agree. But don't get so worked up about people being incorrect about stuff, you're talking to humans, and some in here are younger than you are, we all don't know everything you know. If someone made a mistake, it's not a big deal, just correct it if you know something that they don't, and that's that. Corrections shouldn't come at a cost of being worked up over the supporters of your thread. That's all I have to say from a friend that has patience and don't mean to sound rude saying this to you, Chandy.

And with that, I just wanted to share this.


If you all had to make a moveset for BDee, what would you do to complete it? Would you just use the "Spear Kirby" abilities that he shares plus more that he can do unique to him (I'm assuming this since I don't know about BDee that intensively and most Kirby games he does appear in) or would you make him share other abilities for some moves just to broaden his repertoire of moves?
 
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Yeah, sorry, sometimes I'm really angry for no reason.
And no, I don't hate you Reila Green Greens :)
Shadow Keeby accidentally pressed NO instead of YES in the poll XD
 

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So we're talking about stages? I'd like to see a stage based on Return to Dreamland being realized with BD and Magolor, but two characters at once with a new stage doesn't seem possible. ;-;
 

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If you all had to make a moveset for BDee, what would you do to complete it? Would you just use the "Spear Kirby" abilities that he shares plus more that he can do unique to him (I'm assuming this since I don't know about BDee that intensively and most Kirby games he does appear in) or would you make him share other abilities for some moves just to broaden his repertoire of moves?
Give him a parasol along with his spear so he can represent Parasol Waddle Dee's too. It would also help seperate him from the swordfighters more.
 

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If you all had to make a moveset for BDee, what would you do to complete it? Would you just use the "Spear Kirby" abilities that he shares plus more that he can do unique to him (I'm assuming this since I don't know about BDee that intensively and most Kirby games he does appear in) or would you make him share other abilities for some moves just to broaden his repertoire of moves?
His spear and things that waddle dees used over the years( bombs umbrellas Nruffs etc.)

Edit: I KNOW THIS ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE BUT PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!

Also,
 
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Hey guys, I made Battleship Halberd on Mario Maker!

Try it: (DA62-0000-003E-3D20)
 

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OK, new topic, what would you prefer?
Fountain of Dreams returning, Return to Dream Land stage, Triple Deluxe stage or Rainbow Curse stage?
Definitely a Return stage. They're should've been an Another Dimension stage from the start.
 

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Wait a minute, @Shadow Keeby and @ Reila Reila voted no In the poll I just saw. Sorry to ask, but was this a mistake? :(
Oh that was a complete accident. I tried to click yes but my browser readjusted something on the page and I accidentally clicked no but right before I realised I clicked vote. Big oops at the time.
Also, I would ask for a summary of what has happened today, but I'm about to go to bed, so it would be pointless. If someone decides to, perhaps send it in a message so I wouldn't have to try and find it among a mish mash of pages.
 
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