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Bandana Dee, the Spear Master! (v(- ' ' -)>↑ ~ Dee wait is killing us...

Do you want Bandana Dee in SSB4?


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Wasoodle

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I've been trying my best to spread Bandana Dee's name around to everybody, I really want him in. It's now or never to me, I don't see myself still playing Smash in the next game.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Bandana Dee is the highest voted newcomer in some small twitter poll thingy in Japan.

133 votes Roy (FE)
87 votes Wolf
82 votes Bandana Waddle Dee (47 Bandana Dee + 35 Waddle Dee)
53 votes Snake
46 votes Inkling
45 votes Geno
37 votes Ice Climbers
34 votes Sukapon
33 votes Chrom (FE)
32 votes Banjo Kazooie
30 votes King K. Rool
26 votes Viridi
23 votes Dixie
21 votes Magolor
20 votes Paper Mario
19 votes Child Link
18 votes Krystal
17 votes Goemon, Chibi-Robo, Ray MKII
16 votes Isaac
15 votes Bayonetta
14 votes Daisy, Black Shadow
13 votes Ashley
12 votes Toon Ganondorf
11 votes Pichu
10 votes DeMille (from Tomato Adventure)


It's nice to see how they are supporting Bandana Dee more than we are over here, seeing as how their support probably counts more towards his inclusion.

What I'm worried about though, is if they are counting the ones that are saying "Waddle Dee" as a different character..
 
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edsett

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Considering Bandana Dee is called Waddle Dee in RtDL, it's clear who they're voting for. Especially if they mention the spear moveset.
 

MetaKobra

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I just noticed I didn't even list my favorite secondary characters, despite creating the list! :laugh: Well, here goes! :

***1: Dark Matter
-Awesome Design
-Epic Villain
-Multiple Forms (Sword Form Is Amazing)

**2: Magolor
-Memorable
-Simple, Yet Mischievous

*3: Drawcia
-Epic Design
-Somewhat Of Recurring Villain

4: Daroach
-Leader Of A Squad

5: Rick
-Personal Favorite Partner

I have plenty of ideas for other Kirby lists, if anyone is interested! I don't mind doing the research! :)
 
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I've been trying my best to spread Bandana Dee's name around to everybody, I really want him in. It's now or never to me, I don't see myself still playing Smash in the next game.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Bandana Dee is the highest voted newcomer in some small twitter poll thingy in Japan.

133 votes Roy (FE)
87 votes Wolf
82 votes Bandana Waddle Dee (47 Bandana Dee + 35 Waddle Dee)
53 votes Snake
46 votes Inkling
45 votes Geno
37 votes Ice Climbers
34 votes Sukapon
33 votes Chrom (FE)
32 votes Banjo Kazooie
30 votes King K. Rool
26 votes Viridi
23 votes Dixie
21 votes Magolor
20 votes Paper Mario
19 votes Child Link
18 votes Krystal
17 votes Goemon, Chibi-Robo, Ray MKII
16 votes Isaac
15 votes Bayonetta
14 votes Daisy, Black Shadow
13 votes Ashley
12 votes Toon Ganondorf
11 votes Pichu
10 votes DeMille (from Tomato Adventure)


It's nice to see how they are supporting Bandana Dee more than we are over here, seeing as how their support probably counts more towards his inclusion.

What I'm worried about though, is if they are counting the ones that are saying "Waddle Dee" as a different character..
Colored me impressed. I'm pretty surprised that Bandana Dee is requested that much. Hopefully this could catch Sakurai's attention...

*reads webpage*
Why?

Still a better newcomer choice than Dark Pit.
 

kirby_queen

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I've been trying my best to spread Bandana Dee's name around to everybody, I really want him in. It's now or never to me, I don't see myself still playing Smash in the next game.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Bandana Dee is the highest voted newcomer in some small twitter poll thingy in Japan.

133 votes Roy (FE)
87 votes Wolf
82 votes Bandana Waddle Dee (47 Bandana Dee + 35 Waddle Dee)
53 votes Snake
46 votes Inkling
45 votes Geno
37 votes Ice Climbers
34 votes Sukapon
33 votes Chrom (FE)
32 votes Banjo Kazooie
30 votes King K. Rool
26 votes Viridi
23 votes Dixie
21 votes Magolor
20 votes Paper Mario
19 votes Child Link
18 votes Krystal
17 votes Goemon, Chibi-Robo, Ray MKII
16 votes Isaac
15 votes Bayonetta
14 votes Daisy, Black Shadow
13 votes Ashley
12 votes Toon Ganondorf
11 votes Pichu
10 votes DeMille (from Tomato Adventure)


It's nice to see how they are supporting Bandana Dee more than we are over here, seeing as how their support probably counts more towards his inclusion.

What I'm worried about though, is if they are counting the ones that are saying "Waddle Dee" as a different character..
I would think they would could them together. I mean that looks like what they did right there. It says 82 votes total, which they got from combining entries for "Bandana Dee" and "Waddle Dee". I mean if Waddle Dee is going to end up in smash than it'd be Bandana Waddle Dee whose an actual character. I'd assume this would be how it's factored...

Well I edited this to put the link for this thread here is the website
http://gfaqssb.wikia.com/wiki/Bandanna_Dee
lol "these arguments are invalid". Might be nice to elaborate on why this is so. This description seems lacking but It's nice to see an inclusion for BDee.
 
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MetaKobra

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I actually have an interesting topic that I think hasn't been mentioned before (maybe)!

But what's everyone's favorite design of the two most recurring enemies / bosses in the Kirby series, Kracko and Whispy Woods?

Whispy Woods has 3 Major Forms in total, with 3 Sub-Types as basic enemies in Kirby Mass Attack & 1 Sub-Type in Kirby's Epic Yarn.

The Major Forms Are:

- Whispy Woods (Various Games, 21 Appearances Total)
- Twin Woods (Kirby Super Star, Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Flowery Woods (Kirby Triple Deluxe)

Kracko has 3 major forms in total, with 2 Alternate / Revenge Forms featured in Kirby Super Star Ultra, and 1 Alternate Type in Kirby Air Ride (Artwork).

The Major Forms Are:

- Kracko (Various Games, 19 Appearances Total)
- Kracko Jr. (Various Games About 13 Appearances Total)
- Mecha Kracko (Kirby Squeak Squad)

(And as a bonus)

- Kracko's Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Kracko Jr.'s Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)

I know that these forms may not differ immensely due to them all basically being the same character (Even though Flowery Woods is under control by Tarzana, and Mecha Kracko is controlled by Doc), but there are some major differences such as color, size, design, and appearance in general. I didn't include the sub-types (except Kracko's Revenge), just because they are less recognizable. But there you have it! :)

If you needed refreshing, I provided links for reference!
Whispy Woods:

Whispy Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Whispy_Woods

Twin Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Woods

Flowery Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Flowery_Woods

Kracko:

Kracko:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko

Kracko Jr.:

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko_Jr.

Mecha Krako:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Mecha_Kracko

Kracko's Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=Krackos_Revenge.png

Kracko Jr.'s Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=KSSU_Kracko_Jr.%27s_Revenge_sprite.png

I hope you enjoy this subject, you don't have to participate if you don't want to. But I just wanted to potentially bring up something interesting and new! :kirby:
 
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Calane

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I actually have an interesting topic that I think hasn't been mentioned before (maybe)!

But what's everyone's favorite design of the two most recurring enemies / bosses in the Kirby series, Kracko and Whispy Woods?

Whispy Woods has 3 Major Forms in total, with 3 Sub-Types as basic enemies in Kirby Mass Attack & 1 Sub-Type in Kirby's Epic Yarn.

The Major Forms Are:

- Whispy Woods (Various Games, 21 Appearances Total)
- Twin Woods (Kirby Super Star, Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Flowery Woods (Kirby Triple Deluxe)

Kracko has 3 major forms in total, with 2 Alternate / Revenge Forms featured in Kirby Super Star Ultra, and 1 Alternate Type in Kirby Air Ride (Artwork).

The Major Forms Are:

- Kracko (Various Games, 19 Appearances Total)
- Kracko Jr. (Various Games About 13 Appearances Total)
- Mecha Kracko (Kirby Squeak Squad)

(And as a bonus)

- Kracko's Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Kracko Jr.'s Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)

I know that these forms may not differ immensely due to them all basically being the same character, but there are some major differences such as color, size, design, and appearance in general. I didn't include the sub-types (except Kracko's Revenge), just because they are less recognizable. But there you have it! :)

If you needed refreshing, I provided links for reference!
Whispy Woods:

Whispy Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Whispy_Woods

Twin Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Woods

Flowery Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Flowery_Woods

Kracko:

Kracko:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko

Kracko Jr.:

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko_Jr.

Mecha Krako:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Mecha_Kracko

Kracko's Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=Krackos_Revenge.png

Kracko Jr.'s Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=KSSU_Kracko_Jr.%27s_Revenge_sprite.png

I hope you enjoy this subject, you don't have to participate if you don't want to. But I just wanted to potentially bring up something interesting and new! :kirby:
Kracko! There is no limit to the awesomeness of Kracko. I've always liked his design and probably always will.
 

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WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR BANDANA DEE! SMASH4 DLC
DLC is a great opportunity for fans to vote in new candidates for Smash4! Newcomers who can really bring something new to the table as fighters and grow representation for our most beloved Nintendo (and some third party) franchises.
The newcomer I’ve voted for is Bandana Waddle Dee! This character is the prefect 4th rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s been around since original KSS on the SNES and although his role was small then, it has since truly expanded! BDee is one of the few reoccurring characters to truly remain as a staple character in the franchise. He’s truly earned his way to 4th main character of the series. Players who’ve had the chance to play him in titles like Kirby’s Return to Dreamland and Rainbow Curse certainly have an idea of what Bandana Dee can bring to the table.

FIGHTING STYLE AND MOVE POTENTIAL

What would make him unique as a fighter? Well he would wield a weapon that no other contender has. His spear! A weapon with this level of reach truly has potential!. His play style would truly involve attention to spacing and precision. With his sharp tip, he’s got the option of a concentrated sweet spot! BDee is also able to toss his spear as well, giving him a great projectile. Not only are all these moves interesting considerations for his fighting style, but he even has an attack that works perfectly as his recovery move! Bandana Dee is able to spin his spear so fast he’s able to fly! His spearcopter move would give him great recovery! Bandana Dee is such an attractive contender as a fighter given the fact he’s got plenty of moves that could be implemented in a more elaborated moveset! This video show cases moves such as his Moon Drop (which would make for a perfect down aerial) and his Spear Barrage (which could be his jabbing move) among various other diverse options!


More information regarding the spear moveset and it’s various moves can be found here - http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Spear

RELEVANCY TO RESPECTED FRANCHISE AS QUALIFICATION FOR SERIES REP

Bandana Waddle Dee has appeared in all these games

Kirby Super Star - Small role as opponent in Mega Ton Punch

Kirby Mass Attack - Cameo in Mini game Strato Patrol EOS

Kirby Super Star Ultra (Revenge of the King) - In this game mode Bandana Dee is distinguished and established as King Dedede’s right-hand man. He’s characterized as incredibly loyal. He and Dedede converse through out the mode. He is a nonthreatening sub boss in the game. BDee is seen as the only spectator to the fight between Kirby and King Dedede and in the ending credits walking a long side a sad and defeated King Dedede.

Kirby Return to Dreamland - In this game Bandana Dee is a playable option in multiplayer and unlockable as a playable option for 1st player in Arena/True Arena! He’s originally seen in the first cutscene following Dedede who is chasing Kirby. This is the first game where his main ability, to wield a spear, is shown off. He possesses a diverse moveset and is depicted to be a capable fighter much like King Dedede, Metaknight, and Kirby with his spear. You are even able to defeat all bosses with him as an option in both Arena modes.

Kirby’s Dream Collection - Bandana Dee has a simple cameo in the credits for the challenge mode included but considering it’s a compilation anniversary title, it’s still a very nice inclusion. Especially one celebrating Kirby and his franchise.

Kirby Triple Deluxe - In this title, Bandana Dee helps Kirby with rescuing King Dedede who has been kidnapped. Although he is not playable he serves a role in the game’s street pass (giving Kirby Keychains) and as an ally. He often is seen tossing Kirby health related items for storage before boss battles.

Kirby and the Rainbow Curse - In this game title, Bandana Waddle Dee is once again playable! In fact he’s the only Kirby character players can have control over. (since Kirby has to be directed as a ball.) The magical paint brush character, Elline, clones Bandana Waddle Dee (similar to the way Kirby has copies of himself in Amazing Mirror and other games). Players 2-4 can assist Kirby on his adventure all as Bandana Waddle Dee!


http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/150121/kirby_gougai/

Other Inclusions

Bandana Dee has been featured in the Street Pass puzzle for Return to Dreamland, as an attainable hat for your Mii, and on a club Nintendo Pin that featured the other main characters of the franchise (Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight).


Common and Refutable Arguments Against Bandana Dee’s Inclusion.

“The Kirby franchise does not need a new rep.”

- This is subjective. Fire Emblem certainly has plenty of representation. Pokemon also has more than enough. Kirby simply has 3 in comparison to these other franchises. Kirby however has been around for over 23 years. It’s an incredibly supported entry level franchise series that’s showcased a great variety of diverse games. Kirby is one of the most popular franchises in Japan. It ranks as the 4th most beloved franchise for men and 3rd for women! http://mynintendonews.com/2012/09/22/japan-ranks-their-favourite-nintendo-franchises/

Also if any series deserves representation in a Smash game it’s Kirby!! Why? Well Smash literally wouldn’t exist without Kirby. Not only did Kirby’s very creator and developers work on smash but many of Kirby Super Star’s game elements have shaped Smash’s design. Various examples of this include the game’s shield mechanic influence by Mirror ability’s guard http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Guard




than there is the fact that the iconic Master Hand is essentially Kirby Super Star’s GCO final boss, Wham Bam Rock. Featuring many of his moves. It’s also implicated by HAL’s recently discovered coding (GoMasterHand.brres.cmp in Return to Dreamland - Discovered by Smash Boards member: Reserved) that the very hand that’s been featured in Kirby’s game over screen may very well be Master Hand himself. Making him a character that’s actually first appeared in a Kirby game. Considering they’re both the same cartoon style gloved hand, it’s most likely the case.

Also Kirby Superstar’s very powers are the foundation for the Smash Series fighting style. The way movesets operate are similar to KSS. Kirby Super Star was the first and of the few Kirby titles that gave depth and variety to Kirby’s abilities by allowing him to preform various moves with each power. This was simply done by allowing different moves to be preformed with a variety of directional inputs and the attack button. This gave the game a particular action leaning more so than other standard platformers. In a more recent title, Kirby Triple Deluxe, powers with movesets were also implemented. The game also featured a smash-lite mode called Kirby Fighters which SIMPLY took these movesets and slapped them into a fighting game mode with very few if any changes to how the powers are utilized. Seeing this mode, it’s easy to grasp how HAL got the design idea for Smash’s combat. Simply add your (B) button + directionals for specials and you’ve got yourself some smash.


NOT even mentioned yet are influences such as modes like Smash Run coming from Kirby’s Air Ride, Challenge Grid from Air Ride, some platforming things from Sub Space Emissary coming from a variety of Kirby games, etc etc etc….

So DOES Kirby deserve more rep in smash? Yes… yes he does. /end of that.

“Waddle Dee is generic” or “Waddle is just a generic enemy”

Bandana Dee is generic? In what way? There are no other spear users on the roster or mouth-less, round, bandana wearing characters. So from a design/fighter perspective, no he’s not generic.

The argument that he’s also a generic enemy is also false. Bandana Dee is a specific character. The same waddle dee wearing a bandana that keeps showing up in a variety of Kirby games is the same specific waddle dee who is King Dedede’s Spear Captain, Kirby’s friend, a master of the spear, and a reoccurring staple character in the series thus far. So no, he’s not a generic enemy. He has a much greater role and has been straight up playable more than once. It’s very similar to the fact that Yoshi comes from a species but as a character is specifically important. Barring stand-out characters simply because they are from a species is invalid and would imply that characters like Yoshi and the Pokemon are all generic and that’s not true. Neither is Bandana Dee being generic.

SO WHY VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE??

He’s a great potential fighter with an existing moveset that can already be pulled from. He has the potential to posses a variety of neat moves, a reach that no character would match, an attack that would give him great recovery, and he’d make a great rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s adorable and a loyal friend. He fought a long side Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight and it’d be great if all 4 got together again. The Kirby franchise more than deserves a bit more representation for how influential it’s been on the smash series. Even with a 4th rep he would not out rep other major franchises like Mario or Pokemon. Bandana Waddle Dee has really had a great presence in modern Kirby titles and having more representation of modern Kirby would also be great since most of Kirby’s levels, trophies, items, and characters represent an age when Sakurai was in charge of the franchise!! SO DO IT!!

VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE!!!
(Something I wrote in support of BDee. Don't be shy to share it.)
 
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Nice write up, and nice detail.




Is this officially made by nintendo? Is there a translated version, or can someone translate it?
 
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WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR BANDANA DEE! SMASH4 DLC
DLC is a great opportunity for fans to vote in new candidates for Smash4! Newcomers who can really bring something new to the table as fighters and grow representation for our most beloved Nintendo (and some third party) franchises.
The newcomer I’ve voted for is Bandana Waddle Dee! This character is the prefect 4th rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s been around since original KSS on the SNES and although his role was small then, it has since truly expanded! BDee is one of the few reoccurring characters to truly remain as a staple character in the franchise. He’s truly earned his way to 4th main character of the series. Players who’ve had the chance to play him in titles like Kirby’s Return to Dreamland and Rainbow Curse certainly have an idea of what Bandana Dee can bring to the table.

FIGHTING STYLE AND MOVE POTENTIAL

What would make him unique as a fighter? Well he would wield a weapon that no other contender has. His spear! A weapon with this level of reach truly has potential!. His play style would truly involve attention to spacing and precision. With his sharp tip, he’s got the option of a concentrated sweet spot! BDee is also able to toss his spear as well, giving him a great projectile. Not only are all these moves interesting considerations for his fighting style, but he even has an attack that works perfectly as his recovery move! Bandana Dee is able to spin his spear so fast he’s able to fly! His spearcopter move would give him great recovery! Bandana Dee is such an attractive contender as a fighter given the fact he’s got plenty of moves that could be implemented in a more elaborated moveset! This video show cases moves such as his Moon Drop (which would make for a perfect down aerial) and his Spear Barrage (which could be his jabbing move) among various other diverse options!


More information regarding the spear moveset and it’s various moves can be found here - http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Spear

RELEVANCY TO RESPECTED FRANCHISE AS QUALIFICATION FOR SERIES REP

Bandana Waddle Dee has appeared in all these games

Kirby Super Star - Small role as opponent in Mega Ton Punch

Kirby Mass Attack - Cameo in Mini game Strato Patrol EOS

Kirby Super Star Ultra (Revenge of the King) - In this game mode Bandana Dee is distinguished and established as King Dedede’s right-hand man. He’s characterized as incredibly loyal. He and Dedede converse through out the mode. He is a nonthreatening sub boss in the game. BDee is seen as the only spectator to the fight between Kirby and King Dedede and in the ending credits walking a long side a sad and defeated King Dedede.

Kirby Return to Dreamland - In this game Bandana Dee is a playable option in multiplayer and unlockable as a playable option for 1st player in Arena/True Arena! He’s originally seen in the first cutscene following Dedede who is chasing Kirby. This is the first game where his main ability, to wield a spear, is shown off. He possesses a diverse moveset and is depicted to be a capable fighter much like King Dedede, Metaknight, and Kirby with his spear. You are even able to defeat all bosses with him as an option in both Arena modes.

Kirby’s Dream Collection - Bandana Dee has a simple cameo in the credits for the challenge mode included but considering it’s a compilation anniversary title, it’s still a very nice inclusion. Especially one celebrating Kirby and his franchise.

Kirby Triple Deluxe - In this title, Bandana Dee helps Kirby with rescuing King Dedede who has been kidnapped. Although he is not playable he plays a role in the game’s street pass (giving Kirby Keychains) and as an ally. He often is see tossing Kirby health related items for storage before boss battles.

Kirby and the Rainbow Curse - In this game title, Bandana Waddle Dee is once again playable! In fact he’s the only Kirby character players can have control over. (since Kirby has to be directed as a ball.) The magical paint brush character, Elline, clones Bandana Waddle Dee (similar to the way Kirby has copies of himself in Amazing Mirror and other games). Players 2-4 can assist Kirby on his adventure all as Bandana Waddle Dee!


Other Inclusions

Bandana Dee has been featured in the Street Pass puzzle for Return to Dreamland, as an attainable hat for your Mii, and on a club Nintendo Pin that featured the other main characters of the franchise (Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight).


Common and Refutable Arguments Against Bandana Dee’s Inclusion.

“The Kirby franchise does not need a new rep.”

- This is subjective. Fire Emblem certainly has plenty of representation. Pokemon also has more than enough. Kirby simply has 3 in comparison to these other franchises. Kirby however has been around for over 23 years. It’s an incredibly supported entry level franchise series that’s showcased a great variety of diverse games. Kirby is one of the most popular franchises in Japan. It ranks as the 4th most beloved franchise for men and 3rd for women! http://mynintendonews.com/2012/09/22/japan-ranks-their-favourite-nintendo-franchises/

Also if any series deserves representation in a Smash game it’s Kirby!! Why? Well Smash literally wouldn’t exist without Kirby. Not only did Kirby’s very creator and developers work on smash but many of Kirby Super Star’s game elements have shaped Smash’s design. Various examples of this include the game’s shield mechanic influence by Mirror ability’s guard http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Guard




than there is the fact that the iconic Master Hand is essentially Kirby Super Star’s GCO final boss, Wam Bam Rock. Featuring many of his moves. It’s also implicated by HAL’s recently discovered coding (GoMasterHand.brres.cmp in Return to Dreamland - Discovered by Smash Boards member: Reserved) that the very hand that’s been featured in Kirby’s game over screen may very well be Master Hand himself. Making him a character that’s actually first appeared in a Kirby game. Considering they’re both the same cartoon style gloved hand, it’s most likely the case.

Also Kirby Superstar’s very powers are the foundation for the Smash Series fighting style. The way movesets operate are similar to KSS. Kirby Super Star was the first and of the few Kirby titles that gave depth and variety to Kirby’s abilities by allowing him to preform various moves with each power. This was simply done by allowing different moves to be preformed with a variety of directional inputs and the attack button. This gave the game a particular action leaning more so than other standard platformers. In a more recent title, Kirby Triple Deluxe, powers with movesets were also implemented. The game also featured a smash-lite mode called Kirby Fighters which SIMPLY took these movesets and slapped them into a fighting game mode with very few if any changes to how the powers are utilized. Seeing this mode, it’s easy to grasp how HAL got the design idea for Smash’s combat. Simply add your (B) button + directionals for specials and you’ve got yourself some smash.


NOT even mentioned yet are influences such as modes like Smash Run coming from Kirby’s Air Ride, Challenge Grid from Air Ride, some platforming things from Sub Space Emissary coming from a variety of Kirby games, etc etc etc….

So do I think Kirby deserves more rep in smash and DOES Kirby deserve more rep in smash? Yes… yes he does. /end of that.

“Waddle Dee is generic” or “Waddle is just a generic enemy”

Bandana Dee is generic? In what way? There are no other spear users on the roster or mouth-less, round, bandana wearing characters. So from a design/fighter perspective, no he’s not generic.

The argument that he’s also a generic enemy is also false. Bandana Dee is a specific character. The same waddle dee wearing a bandana that keeps showing up in a variety of Kirby games is the same specific waddle dee who is King Dedede’s Spear Captain, Kirby’s friend, a master of the spear, and a reoccurring staple character in the series thus far. So no, he’s not a generic enemy. He has a much greater role and has been straight up playable more than once. It’s very similar to the fact that Yoshi comes from a species but as a character is specifically important. Barring stand-out characters simply because they are from a species is invalid and would imply that characters like Yoshi and the Pokemon are all generic and that’s not true. Neither is Bandana Dee being generic.

SO WHY VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE??

He’s a great potential fighter with an existing moveset that can already be pulled from. He has the potential to posses a variety of neat moves, a reach that no character would match, a potentially great recovery, and he’d make a great rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s adorable and a loyal friend. He fought a long side Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight and it’d be great if all 4 got together again. The Kirby franchise more than deserves a bit more representation for how influential it’s been on the smash series. Even with a 4th rep he would not out rep other major franchises like Mario or Pokemon. Bandana Waddle Dee has really had a great presence in modern Kirby titles and having more representation of modern Kirby would also be great since most of Kirby’s levels, trophies, items, and characters represent an age when Sakurai was in charge of the franchise!! SO DO IT!!

VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE!!!
(Something I wrote in support of BDee. Don't be shy to share it.)

ALL HAIL KIRBY QUEEN THE DEVOUR OF GALAXY!
 

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Nice write up, and nice detail.




Is this officially made by nintendo? Is there a translated version, or can someone translate it?
This is. Sorry I don't have the source for it right now. I'll try and find it later. I'm not sure how many or what other ones are translated either sorry. I followed someone's blog who happened to be a Kirby fan and student learning Japanese. It's from them that I learned long ago that the BDee in Rainbow Curse are clones.
 

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I've been trying my best to spread Bandana Dee's name around to everybody, I really want him in. It's now or never to me, I don't see myself still playing Smash in the next game.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Bandana Dee is the highest voted newcomer in some small twitter poll thingy in Japan.

133 votes Roy (FE)
87 votes Wolf
82 votes Bandana Waddle Dee (47 Bandana Dee + 35 Waddle Dee)
53 votes Snake
46 votes Inkling
45 votes Geno
37 votes Ice Climbers
34 votes Sukapon
33 votes Chrom (FE)
32 votes Banjo Kazooie
30 votes King K. Rool
26 votes Viridi
23 votes Dixie
21 votes Magolor
20 votes Paper Mario
19 votes Child Link
18 votes Krystal
17 votes Goemon, Chibi-Robo, Ray MKII
16 votes Isaac
15 votes Bayonetta
14 votes Daisy, Black Shadow
13 votes Ashley
12 votes Toon Ganondorf
11 votes Pichu
10 votes DeMille (from Tomato Adventure)


It's nice to see how they are supporting Bandana Dee more than we are over here, seeing as how their support probably counts more towards his inclusion.

What I'm worried about though, is if they are counting the ones that are saying "Waddle Dee" as a different character..
It's Bandana Dee, don't worry! I think that if he gets in however, he'll be called Waddle Dee in the international release! Why, well because that's his name internationally (Minus Triple
Deluxe!)
 
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Nice write up, and nice detail.




Is this officially made by nintendo? Is there a translated version, or can someone translate it?
The Title reads '3 Waddle Dees?'
I don't know Japanese well enough to translate the rest, but it's something about the colour.

:231:
 

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Why isn't Bandana Dee in smash? BANDANA DEE?! CAN YOU HEAR ME?!!? WE NEED YOU AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER!!
 

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WHY DO PEOPLE HATE BANDANA DEE SO MUCH
HE'S HATED ON
REDDIT
GAMEFAQS
YOUTUBE
GOOGLE +:c
SMASHBOARDS(not us but others)
HE'S NOT EVEN NOTICED ON FRIKING TWITER AND FACBOOK
I caN'T TAKE ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!,,,
:cry::cry::cry:
:mad:
 
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WHY DO PEOPLE HATE BANDANA DEE SO MUCH
HE'S HATED ON
REDDIT
GAMEFAQS
YOUTUBE
GOOGLE +:c
SMASHBOARDS(not us but others)
HE'S NOT EVEN NOTICED ON FRIKING TWITER AND FACBOOK
I caN'T TAKE ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!,,,
:cry::cry::cry:
:mad:
I know how you feel. But hey, people hated Wolf in Brawl. They hated Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers. Notice the pattern? All the fighters people hate, they get in. There's still hope for Bandana Dee, because believe it or not, he's EXTREMELY popular in Japan. So well noticed, in fact, that he made it in the top 5 list for most wanted newcomers in Japan. Trust me on this. Even though our hope may get shattered and he won't be added, be positive. Hopefully we get at least one new Kirby newcomer.
 

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I know how you feel. But hey, people hated Wolf in Brawl. They hated Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers. Notice the pattern? All the fighters people hate, they get in. There's still hope for Bandana Dee, because believe it or not, he's EXTREMELY popular in Japan. So well noticed, in fact, that he made it in the top 5 list for most wanted newcomers in Japan. Trust me on this. Even though our hope may get shattered and he won't be added, be positive. Hopefully we get at least one new Kirby newcomer.
Who are the other 5 again? I'm pretty sure King K.Rool is one of them, and another (interestingly enough) is Arle Nadja from Puyo Puyo, if I'm remembering this correctly...
 

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Who are the other 5 again? I'm pretty sure King K.Rool is one of them, and another (interestingly enough) is Arle Nadja from Puyo Puyo, if I'm remembering this correctly...
The top 5 character requests in Japan

1. Roy
2. Wolf
3. Bandana Waddle Dee
4. Snake
5. Inkling
 

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I know how you feel. But hey, people hated Wolf in Brawl. They hated Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers. Notice the pattern? All the fighters people hate, they get in. There's still hope for Bandana Dee, because believe it or not, he's EXTREMELY popular in Japan. So well noticed, in fact, that he made it in the top 5 list for most wanted newcomers in Japan. Trust me on this. Even though our hope may get shattered and he won't be added, be positive. Hopefully we get at least one new Kirby newcomer.
You forgot Mewtwo. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in Melee.
 

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I actually have an interesting topic that I think hasn't been mentioned before (maybe)!

But what's everyone's favorite design of the two most recurring enemies / bosses in the Kirby series, Kracko and Whispy Woods?

Whispy Woods has 3 Major Forms in total, with 3 Sub-Types as basic enemies in Kirby Mass Attack & 1 Sub-Type in Kirby's Epic Yarn.

The Major Forms Are:

- Whispy Woods (Various Games, 21 Appearances Total)
- Twin Woods (Kirby Super Star, Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Flowery Woods (Kirby Triple Deluxe)

Kracko has 3 major forms in total, with 2 Alternate / Revenge Forms featured in Kirby Super Star Ultra, and 1 Alternate Type in Kirby Air Ride (Artwork).

The Major Forms Are:

- Kracko (Various Games, 19 Appearances Total)
- Kracko Jr. (Various Games About 13 Appearances Total)
- Mecha Kracko (Kirby Squeak Squad)

(And as a bonus)

- Kracko's Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)
- Kracko Jr.'s Revenge (Kirby Super Star Ultra)

I know that these forms may not differ immensely due to them all basically being the same character, but there are some major differences such as color, size, design, and appearance in general. I didn't include the sub-types (except Kracko's Revenge), just because they are less recognizable. But there you have it! :)

If you needed refreshing, I provided links for reference!
Whispy Woods:

Whispy Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Whispy_Woods

Twin Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Woods

Flowery Woods:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Flowery_Woods

Kracko:

Kracko:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko

Kracko Jr.:

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko_Jr.

Mecha Krako:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Mecha_Kracko

Kracko's Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=Krackos_Revenge.png

Kracko Jr.'s Revenge:

http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Kracko?file=KSSU_Kracko_Jr.%27s_Revenge_sprite.png

I hope you enjoy this subject, you don't have to participate if you don't want to. But I just wanted to potentially bring up something interesting and new! :kirby:
I just want to point out that Flowery Woods and Mecha Kracko are totally different entities than Whispy Woods and Kracko
Flowery Woods is, and I quote
"Once a small blooming flower native to the floating kingdom of Floralia, Flowery Woods has become hostile and overgrown due to the magic of Dedede's mysterious kidnapper, Taranza. Watch out for this tree's razor-sharp blossoms!"
He seems to be related to Whispy Woods in some way though
And Mecha Kracko is just a robotic Doppelganger of Kracko that was created by Doc
Mecha Kracko
The real Kracko

Know the difference, it could save your life
 
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I've been trying my best to spread Bandana Dee's name around to everybody, I really want him in. It's now or never to me, I don't see myself still playing Smash in the next game.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Bandana Dee is the highest voted newcomer in some small twitter poll thingy in Japan.

133 votes Roy (FE)
87 votes Wolf
82 votes Bandana Waddle Dee (47 Bandana Dee + 35 Waddle Dee)
53 votes Snake
46 votes Inkling
45 votes Geno
37 votes Ice Climbers
34 votes Sukapon
33 votes Chrom (FE)
32 votes Banjo Kazooie
30 votes King K. Rool
26 votes Viridi
23 votes Dixie
21 votes Magolor
20 votes Paper Mario
19 votes Child Link
18 votes Krystal
17 votes Goemon, Chibi-Robo, Ray MKII
16 votes Isaac
15 votes Bayonetta
14 votes Daisy, Black Shadow
13 votes Ashley
12 votes Toon Ganondorf
11 votes Pichu
10 votes DeMille (from Tomato Adventure)


It's nice to see how they are supporting Bandana Dee more than we are over here, seeing as how their support probably counts more towards his inclusion.

What I'm worried about though, is if they are counting the ones that are saying "Waddle Dee" as a different character..
Watch as Sakurai disregards all the votes and only adds Demille from Tomato Adventure as the only DLC character. :troll:
 
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You could all try copy and pasting my write up to these various forums and places where BDee is lacking support. Don't forget to include the supported media. Also we're a very supported group of individuals within our circle here. If you are ever in the need to address a refuting argument, than don't fear asking us for the articulate response. People are certainly welcome to straight up copy/paste my responses to particular criticism. I think the write up above certainly makes an argument but we'll see.

Also keep in mind that no matter how viable and good a candidate BDee would make, there are people who will hate him no matter what. For a lot of kids and even some adults, this smash DLC really brings out the fan worship in them. They may have blind dedications to whatever characters come from their most beloved franchises. So arguing with them can be a real waste of time. They may simply hate on BDee (regardless of how viable he is) simply because any and all characters not from the same franchise is worthless to them.

There are also all those people who are big band wagoners. I highly doubt that every single person who is voting for King K.Rool or Issac have even played the games they were from. Kind of like how people were hyped about Shulk but I know for a FACT that not everyone repping him even played Xenoblade Chronicles (I love Xenoblade Chronicles and I KNOW that the game was not released with a ton of copies, people weren't playing their wiis, and the price for the game had risen a lot... so I know it's a case of chasing the band wagon for a lot of these fans)

So what really sets BDee apart from the more demanded King K.Rool or Issac REALLY is just buzz people can get behind. At least for those who aren't already dedicated fan loyalists to another franchise (which causes them to straight up hate on anything not what they want).
 
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I know how you feel. But hey, people hated Wolf in Brawl. They hated Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers. Notice the pattern? All the fighters people hate, they get in. There's still hope for Bandana Dee, because believe it or not, he's EXTREMELY popular in Japan. So well noticed, in fact, that he made it in the top 5 list for most wanted newcomers in Japan. Trust me on this. Even though our hope may get shattered and he won't be added, be positive. Hopefully we get at least one new Kirby newcomer.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE GETS CONFIRMED
I THINK THERE WILL BE RIOTS IN AMERICA
You could all try copy and pasting my write up to these various forums and places where BDee is lacking support. Don't forget to include the supported media. Also we're a very supported group of individuals within our circle here. If you are ever in the need to address a refuting argument, than don't fear asking us for the articulate response. People are certainly welcome to straight up copy/paste my responses to particular criticism. I think the write up above certainly makes an argument but we'll see.

Also keep in mind that no matter how viable and good a candidate BDee would make, there are people who will hate him no matter what. For a lot of kids and even some adults, this smash DLC really brings out the fan worship in them. They may have blind dedications to whatever characters come their most beloved franchises so arguing with them can be a real waste of time. They may simply hate on BDee (regardless of how viable he is) simply because any and all characters not from the same franchise is worthless to them.

There are also all those people who are big band wagoners. I highly doubt that every single person who is voting for King K.Rool or Issac have even played the games they were from. Kind of like how people were hyped about Shulk but I know for a FACT that not everyone repping him even played Xenoblade Chronicles (I love Xenoblade Chronicles and I KNOW that the game was not released with a ton of copies, people weren't playing their wiis, and the price for the game had risen a lot... so I know it's a case of chasing the band wagon for a lot of these fans)

So what really sets BDee apart from the more demanded King K.Rool or Issac REALLY is just buzz people can get behind. At least for those who aren't already dedicated fan loyalists to another franchise (that causes them to straight up hate on anything not that options).
I JUST DONT LIKE WHEN THEY DO THIS
 
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BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE GETS CONFIRMED
I THINK THERE WILL BE RIOTS IN AMERICA
Nah it won't be bad at all.

I know for a fact because no one wanted Dark Pit (except a few folks) and many people were angry. Yet most people move on as always happens, and people have even picked up on playing him.
 
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Nah it won't be bad at all.

I know for a fact because no wanted Dark Pit (accept a few folks) and many people were angry. Yet most people move on as always happens, and people have even picked up on playing him.
I JUST WANT BANDANA WADDLE DEE TO BE CONFIRMED
SO THIS WAR IS OVER
 

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WHY DO PEOPLE HATE BANDANA DEE SO MUCH
HE'S HATED ON
REDDIT
GAMEFAQS
YOUTUBE
GOOGLE +:c
SMASHBOARDS(not us but others)
HE'S NOT EVEN NOTICED ON FRIKING TWITER AND FACBOOK
I caN'T TAKE ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!,,,
:cry::cry::cry:
:mad:
Every character has it's haters. Bandana Dee is no exception. Just be thankful that it's not as widespread as Pichu's hate.
 

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I just wanted to ask, how do you think Nintendo will know / count the votes up differently for Bandana Dee, Waddle Dee, and Bandana Waddle Dee? I just really hope they add all three key names up, instead of individual characters! :facepalm:

But, my hope is very strong for Bandana (Waddle) Dee and him being one of the highest newcomers. So I have no doubt that he has, been, or will be considered! :kirby:
 
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WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR BANDANA DEE! SMASH4 DLC
DLC is a great opportunity for fans to vote in new candidates for Smash4! Newcomers who can really bring something new to the table as fighters and grow representation for our most beloved Nintendo (and some third party) franchises.
The newcomer I’ve voted for is Bandana Waddle Dee! This character is the prefect 4th rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s been around since original KSS on the SNES and although his role was small then, it has since truly expanded! BDee is one of the few reoccurring characters to truly remain as a staple character in the franchise. He’s truly earned his way to 4th main character of the series. Players who’ve had the chance to play him in titles like Kirby’s Return to Dreamland and Rainbow Curse certainly have an idea of what Bandana Dee can bring to the table.

FIGHTING STYLE AND MOVE POTENTIAL

What would make him unique as a fighter? Well he would wield a weapon that no other contender has. His spear! A weapon with this level of reach truly has potential!. His play style would truly involve attention to spacing and precision. With his sharp tip, he’s got the option of a concentrated sweet spot! BDee is also able to toss his spear as well, giving him a great projectile. Not only are all these moves interesting considerations for his fighting style, but he even has an attack that works perfectly as his recovery move! Bandana Dee is able to spin his spear so fast he’s able to fly! His spearcopter move would give him great recovery! Bandana Dee is such an attractive contender as a fighter given the fact he’s got plenty of moves that could be implemented in a more elaborated moveset! This video show cases moves such as his Moon Drop (which would make for a perfect down aerial) and his Spear Barrage (which could be his jabbing move) among various other diverse options!


More information regarding the spear moveset and it’s various moves can be found here - http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Spear

RELEVANCY TO RESPECTED FRANCHISE AS QUALIFICATION FOR SERIES REP

Bandana Waddle Dee has appeared in all these games

Kirby Super Star - Small role as opponent in Mega Ton Punch

Kirby Mass Attack - Cameo in Mini game Strato Patrol EOS

Kirby Super Star Ultra (Revenge of the King) - In this game mode Bandana Dee is distinguished and established as King Dedede’s right-hand man. He’s characterized as incredibly loyal. He and Dedede converse through out the mode. He is a nonthreatening sub boss in the game. BDee is seen as the only spectator to the fight between Kirby and King Dedede and in the ending credits walking a long side a sad and defeated King Dedede.

Kirby Return to Dreamland - In this game Bandana Dee is a playable option in multiplayer and unlockable as a playable option for 1st player in Arena/True Arena! He’s originally seen in the first cutscene following Dedede who is chasing Kirby. This is the first game where his main ability, to wield a spear, is shown off. He possesses a diverse moveset and is depicted to be a capable fighter much like King Dedede, Metaknight, and Kirby with his spear. You are even able to defeat all bosses with him as an option in both Arena modes.

Kirby’s Dream Collection - Bandana Dee has a simple cameo in the credits for the challenge mode included but considering it’s a compilation anniversary title, it’s still a very nice inclusion. Especially one celebrating Kirby and his franchise.

Kirby Triple Deluxe - In this title, Bandana Dee helps Kirby with rescuing King Dedede who has been kidnapped. Although he is not playable he plays a role in the game’s street pass (giving Kirby Keychains) and as an ally. He often is see tossing Kirby health related items for storage before boss battles.

Kirby and the Rainbow Curse - In this game title, Bandana Waddle Dee is once again playable! In fact he’s the only Kirby character players can have control over. (since Kirby has to be directed as a ball.) The magical paint brush character, Elline, clones Bandana Waddle Dee (similar to the way Kirby has copies of himself in Amazing Mirror and other games). Players 2-4 can assist Kirby on his adventure all as Bandana Waddle Dee!


Other Inclusions

Bandana Dee has been featured in the Street Pass puzzle for Return to Dreamland, as an attainable hat for your Mii, and on a club Nintendo Pin that featured the other main characters of the franchise (Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight).


Common and Refutable Arguments Against Bandana Dee’s Inclusion.

“The Kirby franchise does not need a new rep.”

- This is subjective. Fire Emblem certainly has plenty of representation. Pokemon also has more than enough. Kirby simply has 3 in comparison to these other franchises. Kirby however has been around for over 23 years. It’s an incredibly supported entry level franchise series that’s showcased a great variety of diverse games. Kirby is one of the most popular franchises in Japan. It ranks as the 4th most beloved franchise for men and 3rd for women! http://mynintendonews.com/2012/09/22/japan-ranks-their-favourite-nintendo-franchises/

Also if any series deserves representation in a Smash game it’s Kirby!! Why? Well Smash literally wouldn’t exist without Kirby. Not only did Kirby’s very creator and developers work on smash but many of Kirby Super Star’s game elements have shaped Smash’s design. Various examples of this include the game’s shield mechanic influence by Mirror ability’s guard http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Guard




than there is the fact that the iconic Master Hand is essentially Kirby Super Star’s GCO final boss, Wam Bam Rock. Featuring many of his moves. It’s also implicated by HAL’s recently discovered coding (GoMasterHand.brres.cmp in Return to Dreamland - Discovered by Smash Boards member: Reserved) that the very hand that’s been featured in Kirby’s game over screen may very well be Master Hand himself. Making him a character that’s actually first appeared in a Kirby game. Considering they’re both the same cartoon style gloved hand, it’s most likely the case.

Also Kirby Superstar’s very powers are the foundation for the Smash Series fighting style. The way movesets operate are similar to KSS. Kirby Super Star was the first and of the few Kirby titles that gave depth and variety to Kirby’s abilities by allowing him to preform various moves with each power. This was simply done by allowing different moves to be preformed with a variety of directional inputs and the attack button. This gave the game a particular action leaning more so than other standard platformers. In a more recent title, Kirby Triple Deluxe, powers with movesets were also implemented. The game also featured a smash-lite mode called Kirby Fighters which SIMPLY took these movesets and slapped them into a fighting game mode with very few if any changes to how the powers are utilized. Seeing this mode, it’s easy to grasp how HAL got the design idea for Smash’s combat. Simply add your (B) button + directionals for specials and you’ve got yourself some smash.


NOT even mentioned yet are influences such as modes like Smash Run coming from Kirby’s Air Ride, Challenge Grid from Air Ride, some platforming things from Sub Space Emissary coming from a variety of Kirby games, etc etc etc….

So do I think Kirby deserves more rep in smash and DOES Kirby deserve more rep in smash? Yes… yes he does. /end of that.

“Waddle Dee is generic” or “Waddle is just a generic enemy”

Bandana Dee is generic? In what way? There are no other spear users on the roster or mouth-less, round, bandana wearing characters. So from a design/fighter perspective, no he’s not generic.

The argument that he’s also a generic enemy is also false. Bandana Dee is a specific character. The same waddle dee wearing a bandana that keeps showing up in a variety of Kirby games is the same specific waddle dee who is King Dedede’s Spear Captain, Kirby’s friend, a master of the spear, and a reoccurring staple character in the series thus far. So no, he’s not a generic enemy. He has a much greater role and has been straight up playable more than once. It’s very similar to the fact that Yoshi comes from a species but as a character is specifically important. Barring stand-out characters simply because they are from a species is invalid and would imply that characters like Yoshi and the Pokemon are all generic and that’s not true. Neither is Bandana Dee being generic.

SO WHY VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE??

He’s a great potential fighter with an existing moveset that can already be pulled from. He has the potential to posses a variety of neat moves, a reach that no character would match, a potentially great recovery, and he’d make a great rep for the Kirby franchise. He’s adorable and a loyal friend. He fought a long side Kirby, King Dedede, and Metaknight and it’d be great if all 4 got together again. The Kirby franchise more than deserves a bit more representation for how influential it’s been on the smash series. Even with a 4th rep he would not out rep other major franchises like Mario or Pokemon. Bandana Waddle Dee has really had a great presence in modern Kirby titles and having more representation of modern Kirby would also be great since most of Kirby’s levels, trophies, items, and characters represent an age when Sakurai was in charge of the franchise!! SO DO IT!!

VOTE BANDANA WADDLE DEE!!!
(Something I wrote in support of BDee. Don't be shy to share it.)
So...ALL of this is being added to the OP, right? Because all of these amazing points supporting B.D. really need to be there.
 

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This is. Sorry I don't have the source for it right now. I'll try and find it later. I'm not sure how many or what other ones are translated either sorry. I followed someone's blog who happened to be a Kirby fan and student learning Japanese. It's from them that I learned long ago that the BDee in Rainbow Curse are clones.
I heard that there are more of these comics on the official JP website of Kirby and the Rainbow Curse. I came across one recently, and while I can't read or speak Japanese to save my life, the comic I read apparently seems to show us just what happened to King Dedede AND Meta Knight and where they have been for nearly the entirety of the events of Kirby and the Rainbow Curse! I won't spoil it, so go and have a look-see! The comics actually are really cute, though. I hope someone can translate these soon! BTW, there's even another comic about KatRC, and Elline makes a cute guest appearance during a match of...(Believe it or not!) Super Smash Bros.! It's pretty funny! Check the comics out when you get a chance!
 

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I remember when everyone was like:4palutena::4lucina::4robinm::4robinf::4shulk::4darkpit:, ****, more anime characters!
First I've heard of that. lol. I like the anime style game are taking. It's perfect for fantasy worlds.
I actually liked Pichu. :3
Pichu needs all the support he can get, so I fixed it. (Stands wit a proud expression while everyone else rolls their eyes)
 
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