Bandana Dee, the Legend of Dee - Our Star Ally as DeeLC?! (v(- ' ' -)>↑

[Tortilla Noggin]

thats it im done ill come back when youve all calmed down this has gone sideways

Nobody has been impolite, thankyou.

Please don't try to imply that those who've responded to your posts aren't being calm, just because you don't like that what they've pointed out differs from your opinion.

 

[Cosmic77]

thats it im done ill come back when youve all calmed down this has gone sideways

...

So, how 'bout that Bandana Dee fellow? He'd make a pretty good fighter in Smash, right?

 

[fogbadge]

Nobody has been impolite, thankyou.

Please don't try to imply that those who've responded to your posts aren't being calm, just because you don't like that what they've pointed out differs from your opinion.

that is not what i meant at all im done because we're just going in circles here

you give me arguments that i dont think matter to the makers of smash and then i say that i dont think they matter

it just feels like something that should have just been me saying theyd make nice alts has somehow gotten out of hand

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

that is not what i meant at all im done because we're just going in circles here

you give me arguments that i dont think matter to the makers of smash and then i say that i dont think they matter

it just feels like something that should have just been me saying theyd make nice alts has somehow gotten out of hand

I see.

Perhaps don't use wording like "when you've all calmed down" and "this has gone sideways", in the future? It came off sounding like you were angry.

Seriously, though, I really only pointed out why they very well might not use other unrelated unknown characters as alts, because it's something they've never done.

 

[fogbadge]

I see.

Perhaps don't use wording like "when you've all calmed down" and "this has gone sideways", in the future? It came off sounding like you were angry.

Seriously, though, I really only pointed out why they very well might not use other unrelated unknown characters as alts, because it's something they've never done.

ans i was just saying it was entirely possible that theyd probably bung them all together and still call them all bandana dee

you seemed to be taking a hypothetical conversation about something that probably wont even happen very seriously

as much as id like to see it its probably more likely that we'll just get pallet swaps for bandana dee if he makes it to smash

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

you seemed to be taking a hypothetical conversation about something that probably wont even happen very seriously

Please don't try to turn it around onto me. I only made idle, casual conversation regarding trivia about an entertainment product.

as much as id like to see it its probably more likely that we'll just get pallet swaps for bandana dee if he makes it to smash

I would imagine that that's the case as well.

I do wonder what we'd get, though. In the case of Dedede's alts, for example, most of them are drawn from other games in the series.

Bandana Waddle Dee doesn't yet have much in the way of that - the only thing that I can think of off of the top of my head would be the two copies of him that Elline made in Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.

Spoiler: Official comic - ''The Waddle Dee Three''

The colours from these two clones don't seem like bad choices.

EDIT: I missed your edit when I originally loaded the page;

ans i was just saying it was entirely possible that theyd probably bung them all together and still call them all bandana dee

And I only pointed out that they're not Bandana Waddle Dee, and there's little reason for anyone to claim that they are, so that didn't seem quite so possible to me.

 

[fogbadge]

Please don't try to turn it around onto me. I only made idle, casual conversation regarding trivia about an entertainment product.


I would imagine that that's the case as well.

I do wonder what we'd get, though. In the case of Dedede's alts, for example, most of them are drawn from other games in the series.

Bandana Waddle Dee doesn't yet have much in the way of that - the only thing that I can think of off of the top of my head would be the two copies of him that Elline made in Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.

Spoiler: Official comic - ''The Waddle Dee Three''

The colours from these two clones don't seem like bad choices.

EDIT: I missed your edit when I originally loaded the page;


And I only pointed out that they're not Bandana Waddle Dee, and there's little reason for anyone to claim that they are, so that didn't seem quite so possible to me.

i wasnt turning it around i was telling you how you were coming across

You know what I’m sorry I didn’t mean to come across as aggressive and in sure you didn’t either you I understand you reasons for thinking it’s a bad idea for him to have to outfits of other characters

So for what’s it’s worth I’m sorry I think there was a fair amount of misinterpretation of my part

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

i wasnt turning it around i was telling you how you were coming across

I just want you to know that I saw the original, one-line version of this post that was just this, and I want to say that I really appreciate the edit, as quoted below.

You know what I’m sorry I didn’t mean to come across as aggressive and in sure you didn’t either you I understand you reasons for thinking it’s a bad idea for him to have to outfits of other characters

So for what’s it’s worth I’m sorry I think there was a fair amount of misinterpretation of my part

I do believe that there was a fair amount of misinterpretation on your part, because I didn't word anything in an aggressive fashion, as you suggest here.

But anyway, don't worry about it. Thankyou for understanding the reasoning behind what I said.

 

[Chalo5000]

bandana dee is a pretty swell guy

 

[smashkirby]

Bandana Dee's been buffed in SSF2 following his initial inclusion.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Bandana Dee's been buffed in SSF2 following his initial inclusion.

What did they change?

 

[smashkirby]

What did they change?

Sorry I took so long to respond. Basically, almost EVERY move of his has been buffed across the board following his initial addition to the game, allowing him to KO MUCH earlier than he was originally able to..

For those who want to see the technical stuff.

Spoiler: Tech. stuff

• Down tilt:
  • Raised angle (35->75)
  • Increased damage (6%->7%)
  • Increased base knockback (30->35)
  • Increased knockback scaling (50->100)
• Forward Smash:
  • Increased damage (12%->13.5%)
  • Increased base knockback (38->42)
  • Increased knockback scaling (88->90)
• Down smash:
  • Non-tip attackboxes now deal less damage than tip (13%->12%)
• Neutral aerial:
  • Is now a single-hit move
    • Damage 11%, angle 45, base knockback 20, knockback scaling 100.
• Up aerial:
  • Clean hit:
    • Reduced damage (13%->12%)
    • Increased base knockback (20->40)
    • Increased knockback scaling (85->90)
  • Now has a late hit/sourspot
    • Damage 8%, base knockback 40, knockback scaling 90
• Forward aerial:
  • First two hits now use weight-based knockback (base knockback 35->weight-based knockback 15)
  • Final hit:
    • Increased damage (5%->6%)
    • Increased knockback scaling (100->138)
• Back aerial:
  • Now has a late hit/sourspot, with 8% damage
  • Clean hit:
    • Reduced damage (12%->11.5%)
    • Decreased base knockback (40->35)
    • Increased knockback scaling (95->105)
• Down Special (ground):
  • Reduced damage (18%->15%)
  • Increased base knockback (40->45)
  • Increased knockback scaling (80->105)
• Up throw:
  • Final hit:
    • Reduced base knockback (90->50)
• Down throw:
  • Increased damage (7%->10%)
• Getup attack now properly deals damage

In the following patch for the game:

• Up special damage increased. (9% -> 13%)
• Grounded up special knockback scaling increased. (68 -> 90)
• Aerial up special knockback scaling increased. (55 -> 80)

 

[Cosmic77]

Sorry I took so long to respond. Basically, almost EVERY move of his has been buffed across the board following his initial addition to the game, allowing him to KO MUCH earlier than he was originally able to..

For those who want to see the technical stuff.

Spoiler: Tech. stuff

• Down tilt:
  • Raised angle (35->75)
  • Increased damage (6%->7%)
  • Increased base knockback (30->35)
  • Increased knockback scaling (50->100)
• Forward Smash:
  • Increased damage (12%->13.5%)
  • Increased base knockback (38->42)
  • Increased knockback scaling (88->90)
• Down smash:
  • Non-tip attackboxes now deal less damage than tip (13%->12%)
• Neutral aerial:
  • Is now a single-hit move
    • Damage 11%, angle 45, base knockback 20, knockback scaling 100.
• Up aerial:
  • Clean hit:
    • Reduced damage (13%->12%)
    • Increased base knockback (20->40)
    • Increased knockback scaling (85->90)
  • Now has a late hit/sourspot
    • Damage 8%, base knockback 40, knockback scaling 90
• Forward aerial:
  • First two hits now use weight-based knockback (base knockback 35->weight-based knockback 15)
  • Final hit:
    • Increased damage (5%->6%)
    • Increased knockback scaling (100->138)
• Back aerial:
  • Now has a late hit/sourspot, with 8% damage
  • Clean hit:
    • Reduced damage (12%->11.5%)
    • Decreased base knockback (40->35)
    • Increased knockback scaling (95->105)
• Down Special (ground):
  • Reduced damage (18%->15%)
  • Increased base knockback (40->45)
  • Increased knockback scaling (80->105)
• Up throw:
  • Final hit:
    • Reduced base knockback (90->50)
• Down throw:
  • Increased damage (7%->10%)
• Getup attack now properly deals damage

In the following patch for the game:

• Up special damage increased. (9% -> 13%)
• Grounded up special knockback scaling increased. (68 -> 90)
• Aerial up special knockback scaling increased. (55 -> 80)

Spoiler

Fear the spear!

 

[Deleted member]

Add me to the supporter list.

This guy is a war veteran for how long he has to put up with King Dedede's incompetence.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Kirby: Star Allies' release-date has now been confirmed as March 16th. This is before Kirby's 25th Anniversary ends on April 27th, making it a 25th Anniversary title as initially expected.

A couple of new Copy Abilities have been debuted, but we've still got no word on whether or not Bandana Waddle Dee will appear in the game.

I'm still hoping to see him get a role as a boss, presumably defending his king, personally, since all of the footage shown so far suggests that the boss role is the case for everyone else that Kirby knows.

 

[Deleted member]

That artist copy ability though

ADELINE ANYONE!?

 

[Staarih]

The box art for Star Allies is pretty cute.

Spoiler: Star Allies box cover

 

[Deleted member]

I'll say this about Kirby and I'll say it a hundred time.

...Zero must return.

Onto more Bandana Dee-related topic, have a cute picture by Screeadee:

 

[fogbadge]

im in love with artist kirby

 

[Cosmic77]

Here's Star Allies' North American boxart.

Spoiler

Looks pretty good. Love the detail in Kirby's eyes.

(Edit: Aaaand, someone already uploaded it. It's always worth looking at the thread before posting.)

 

[Sid-cada]

Here's hoping that he gets some role in the game...

Anyway, because no one mentioned it...

In addition to the CD of the 25th anniversary's orchestra recording, There's a separate CD of bonus tracts. You can check them out here.

Why am I mentioning it here? Song #7, "Song of apple juice", is a vocal arrangement for Bandanna Dee, set to the tune of Apple Scramble. Go listen to it. It's cute.

 

[smashkirby]

Kirby: Star Allies' release-date has now been confirmed as March 16th. This is before Kirby's 25th Anniversary ends on April 27th, making it a 25th Anniversary title as initially expected.

A couple of new Copy Abilities have been debuted, but we've still got no word on whether or not Bandana Waddle Dee will appear in the game.

I'm still hoping to see him get a role as a boss, presumably defending his king, personally, since all of the footage shown so far suggests that the boss role is the case for everyone else that Kirby knows.

Finally! A release date! And so close to us, too! Loving that Artist and Spider ability! Hoping we'll get more new Copy Abilities down the line!

I actually hope he's a boss myself. But I do wonder how his battle would play out. Like, would it be him commanding an entire army, or just utilizing his sick spear-wielding skills to combat you?

That artist copy ability though

ADELINE ANYONE!?

You know, I've been wondering...with Artist being a thing, what does this mean for Paint? I mean, I know there's Suplex/Backdrop/Throw, but did Paint BECOME Artist or are they still considered separate entities?

Here's hoping that he gets some role in the game...

Anyway, because no one mentioned it...

In addition to the CD of the 25th anniversary's orchestra recording, There's a separate CD of bonus tracks. You can check them out here.

Why am I mentioning it here? Song #7, "Song of apple juice", is a vocal arrangement for Bandanna Dee, set to the tune of Apple Scramble. Go listen to it. It's cute.

Oh, yeah! I heard a sample of that! I'll say this much, the snippet I was able to hear really shows how adorable B.D. truly is.

BTW, for those who don't understand Japanese: Apparently, the song has Bandana Dee wish he could be as brave and popular as Kirby!

 

[NintenRob]

I hope those CDs get an English release with English translations. That would be amazing

 

[Chalo5000]

I dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but apparently you can summon a painting of Bandana Dee with the Artist ability

Here's the source with other screenshots from the game

 

[Cosmic77]

I dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but apparently you can summon a painting of Bandana Dee with the Artist ability

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Here's the source with other screenshots from the game

I admire his enthusiasm, but I don't think Bandana Dee has much of a chance against Buff Dedede.

 

[Deleted member]

Here's hoping that he gets some role in the game...

Anyway, because no one mentioned it...

In addition to the CD of the 25th anniversary's orchestra recording, There's a separate CD of bonus tracts. You can check them out here.

Why am I mentioning it here? Song #7, "Song of apple juice", is a vocal arrangement for Bandanna Dee, set to the tune of Apple Scramble. Go listen to it. It's cute.

Now that is a nice voice to hear, isn’t it?

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

I actually hope he's a boss myself. But I do wonder how his battle would play out. Like, would it be him commanding an entire army, or just utilizing his sick spear-wielding skills to combat you?

I'd imagine that it'd be the latter, since he's been shown to be a pretty capable guy. Though, him being able to call in backup from the rest of the royal guard would be pretty cool for a second-phase move.

You know, I've been wondering...with Artist being a thing, what does this mean for Paint? I mean, I know there's Suplex/Backdrop/Throw, but did Paint BECOME Artist or are they still considered separate entities?

They don't appear to have shown any overlap in what these two abilities do, so I don't see any reason to believe that Paint has "become" Artist, myself.

I dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but apparently you can summon a painting of Bandana Dee with the Artist ability

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Here's the source with other screenshots from the game

That's awesome!

We've also seen that this ability can summon a painting of Dedede, too, so we know that it covers both the king and his bodyguard, now. I wonder who else is featured?

 

[NintenRob]

At least now Bandana Dee has a confirmed appearance in the game.

I wonder how well this game will sell, Kirby consistently reach 1 million, but I wonder if this game can do better.

It's interesting that another Nintendo 2D game releases not long after, DKC. I wonder how well Kirby will do compared to the Kong. And also later this year is Yoshi. How well will Yoshi Do I wonder.

Also interesting to note that they're the three franchises that got retro stages in Melee.

 

[Cosmic77]

At least now Bandana Dee has a confirmed appearance in the game.

I wonder how well this game will sell, Kirby consistently reach 1 million, but I wonder if this game can do better.

Triple Deluxe sold around 2 million, and Robobot sold roughly 1.20 million. Based on those numbers, I'd say this game will sell around 1.0-2.5 million copies. Could be better or worse, but this feels like a good guess.

 

[Deleted member]

At least now Bandana Dee has a confirmed appearance in the game.

I wonder how well this game will sell, Kirby consistently reach 1 million, but I wonder if this game can do better.

It's interesting that another Nintendo 2D game releases not long after, DKC. I wonder how well Kirby will do compared to the Kong. And also later this year is Yoshi. How well will Yoshi Do I wonder.

Also interesting to note that they're the three franchises that got retro stages in Melee.

I can see the game breaking two million seeing as this is a platform Kirby game coming early in the console's lifecycle.

 

[NintenRob]

You know what I'd like to see.

Bandana Waddle Dee getting his own theme to accompany him

Especially if it meant a boss fight against him


I really want a boss fight against where he's an actual threat

I want him to be the hardest boss in the game



Unless they decide to make Kirby a boss in a helper specific challenge (imagine a Kirby soul boss fight, trying to remove the darkness infesting it)


Also yay you can play as the helper without Kirby

 

[smashkirby]

You know what I'd like to see.

Bandana Waddle Dee getting his own theme to accompany him

Especially if it meant a boss fight against him


I really want a boss fight against where he's an actual threat

I want him to be the hardest boss in the game



Unless they decide to make Kirby a boss in a helper specific challenge (imagine a Kirby soul boss fight, trying to remove the darkness infesting it)


Also yay you can play as the helper without Kirby

I get this odd feeling B.D. is the last Pop Star boss. I mean, why haven't we seen him give food to Kirby from the background yet? Though, this could be wishful thinking on my part... Also, if my prediction DOES come true...PLEASE HAL, make him THE hardest boss in the game (outside of the final boss, of course)!

Also, that Kirby boss idea?

 

[Jiggly]

Hello old friends. Just wanted to drop in and say to keep fighting the good fight o7

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

So, anyone betting on Dee having the same role he had in Triple Deluxe/Planet Robobot, or more?

 

[NintenRob]

Has anyone given this a listen? I just started, should be fun

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Thought, what if Bandana Dee goes the Pit route and has his default weapon expanded for Smash. Namely a Parasol that has a sharp tip and can extend so he can have both Parasol and Spear moves to play around with

 

[smashkirby]

So, anyone betting on Dee having the same role he had in Triple Deluxe/Planet Robobot, or more?

To re-quote something I recently said in regards to B.D.'s role in Star Allies:

I get this odd feeling B.D. is the last Pop Star boss. I mean, why haven't we seen him give food to Kirby from the background yet? Though, this could be wishful thinking on my part...

Also, if my prediction DOES come true...PLEASE HAL, make him THE hardest boss in the game (outside of the final boss, of course)!

 

[Russell_SSB]

This little guy DOES deserve a spot! After all, we got Kirby, King Dedede, and Meta Knight. Now this guy needs to be added so we finally have the team in the game!

 

[Deleted member]

I've been on a Kirby mood recently, which certainly fueled my desire to see Bandana Dee in Smash.
I support, and I've actually made a moveset for him (It's only about 50% done so I'll share it once I'm done), which is partially inspired by SSF2 in concept.

 

[NintenRob]

I've been playing Kirby 64 in anticipation, only played. Getting some crystal shards are annoying.


If they ever remake the game, they should give that waddle Dee a bandana.