Backroom discussion resuming

[NixxxoN]

I wanted to keep on disucssing but apparently surri loves to close threads

to this:
1. Why would we allow random scrubs to join a back room? It does say for the "elite."

2. Purely on competitive play? Well yes. We don't want to have posts like: Hey guyz, wouldn't it be fun to change the ssb ruleset to include Sector Z and items.

3. I am not an offline competitive ssb64 player nor do I take ssb64 that competitively. People get in for knowledge and for a non-troll post attitude. They also get in for being active on this forum.

4. "the more nerd you are": /implying you would get in if you make posts like this anyway.

1. All this elitism does is make this game only enjoyable for the very few players who stay at the top and treat the worse players like sh** (random scrubs according to elitists) and that basically makes the community decrease. What makes a community big is precisely those noobs and scrubs that some of you despise. This is a VERY old game already and we should try to get more players on here rather than say "go away noob/scrub, elitism rules"

2. Even if the competitive play is a good way of playing, it doesnt mean there arent other ways that people can enjoy.

3. Being less good (rubbish random scrub according to some) doesnt mean you can be knnowledgeable and doesnt mean you have to troll and this stuff

4. Well if this offends someone its their own problem. anyway people should have more humor sense.


Well thats my own opinion, and people have different opinions and stuff so please dont pretend someone has to have the absolute right.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

no lets not have opinions lets just go do something else

 

[malva00]

I'm making my own backroom using geocities

current members: malva, NixxxoN, 3mmanu3lrc

 

[SheerMadness]

The fact that they let s2j in is mind boggling.

All he's done the past 2 years is troll and flame people on here. He openly states on the 64 boards that he thinks ssb64 is dumb and everyone who plays online is a ***.

I'm sorry but I have no idea what the leaders were thinking. Why on earth should we let one of the biggest ssb64 trolls in the backroom?

 

[linkoninja]

"What makes a community big is precisely those noobs and scrubs that some of you despise. This is a VERY old game already and we should try to get more players on here rather than say "go away noob/scrub, elitism rules"

I couldn't agree more. People on these boards are so rude sometimes, they just act like jerks for no apparent reason. I mean, we should be helping people get better and give a more positive outlook, instead of just flaming them. God.

 

[ballin4life]

Who is being elitist or rude?

 

[Fireblaster]

I wanted to keep on disucssing but apparently surri loves to close threads



1. All this elitism does is make this game only enjoyable for the very few players who stay at the top and treat the worse players like sh** (random scrubs according to elitists) and that basically makes the community decrease. What makes a community big is precisely those noobs and scrubs that some of you despise. This is a VERY old game already and we should try to get more players on here rather than say "go away noob/scrub, elitism rules"

What the hell? How is this elitist? I guess you'd call the US government elitist for not letting me become a judge in the supreme court.

2. Even if the competitive play is a good way of playing, it doesnt mean there arent other ways that people can enjoy.

... what's your point? We're not here to discuss casual ways of playing, we're here to discuss competitive and high level play, fair rulesets, etc.

3. Being less good (rubbish random scrub according to some) doesnt mean you can be knnowledgeable and doesnt mean you have to troll and this stuff

This sentence makes no sense.

4. Well if this offends someone its their own problem. anyway people should have more humor sense.

Oh yeah, GOOD JOKE HAHAH!! That's about as clever as.

Jake - "Hey bob, you're a ****ing ******"
Bob - "Wait, what?"
Jake - "just kidding LOL!"

 

[malva00]

In case anyone is wondering, I probably didn't apply because I'm too lazy to do that whole application stuff

 

[NovaSmash]

only thing im wondering is if the backroom will actually help the smash64 community and i dont think it will

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

I'm making my own backroom using geocities

current members: malva, NixxxoN

Let me in...

In case anyone is wondering, I probably didn't apply because I'm too lazy to do that whole application stuff

yeah!! I thought you didn't apply.

 

[WOTG]

We don't need a backroom... Still don't see where explained anywhere why we need one. Many other "serious" topics were discussed fine, regardless of these "noob" posters some of these "elite/smart" posters get so worked up about. (Most of the time it seems like, someone makes a post and tries to argue for it, that not everyone agrees with, then it's usually the same people who immediately try to dismiss/flame without correctly debating/explaining why they're wrong. It's the same, "You're a noob, stop posting" kind of attitude.)

With having a backroom, it doesn't seem to be that big of a deal anyways. I doubt it will be any significance to this very small community.

Why the community isn't significantly growing imo...

3. Too much bickering (trolling, arguing, egos, superiority complexes that drives people away)
2. Needs superior competitive/advertising strategies (Stop creating a bunch of random tournies that not everyone can have access to, and taking forever to finish online tournies. Why not be that big event that everyone tunes into? Especially if that event has good prizes)
1. It's a old *** game. People move on.

My input, I hope that helps

 

[The Star King]

In case anyone is wondering, I probably didn't apply because I'm too lazy to do that whole application stuff

You probably could have half-***ed it and still made it in

 

[th3kuzinator]

tbh i agree with sheer.

I think everyone on that list is a good candidate, probably more qualified than me.

Idk about s2j tho, he has been straight trolling for the past 2 years and even handed in his application late. He rarely visits the boards and never contributes. Just because he is a good player and is an oldie, idk why he should have precedent over other candidates.

 

[SheerMadness]

I would gladly give up my spot in the backroom if it meant someone more deserving got s2j's spot also.

 

[King Funk]

I won't have any opinion on S2J's includement in the BR, but I'm still confused by how it happened.

"hey I quit this game but let me in and I'll play 64 again, everyone else sucks"

"ok."

 

[th3kuzinator]

"lol i hate ssb so much, everyone on these boards is stupid"

"stfu sheer, stop making tier lists, this is dumb u suck lololol"

*dissapears for a long time*

-2 days after the deadline was over-

"Oh. I missed this? Guess I was away for too long not caring. But hey, let me in and ill take ssb serious again. Plz?"

"ok"

-_-

 

[King Funk]

"lol i hate ssb so much, everyone on these boards is stupid"

"stfu sheer, stop making tier lists, this is dumb u suck lololol"

*dissapears for a long time*

-2 days after the deadline was over-

"Oh. I missed this? Guess I was away for too long not caring. But hey, let me in and ill take ssb serious again. Plz?"

"ok"

-_-

In all honesty, I'd prefer Kuz in the BR than S2J. At least he's motivated.

Or Isai.

 

[th3kuzinator]

:o <3

Thanks for the recommendation, but I doubt anything will change now. Unless S2J acts rly stupid in the BRoom.

 

[NixxxoN]

What the hell? How is this elitist? I guess you'd call the US government elitist for not letting me become a judge in the supreme court.

... what's your point? We're not here to discuss casual ways of playing, we're here to discuss competitive and high level play, fair rulesets, etc.

Oh yeah, GOOD JOKE HAHAH!! That's about as clever as.

Jake - "Hey bob, you're a ****ing ******"
Bob - "Wait, what?"
Jake - "just kidding LOL!"

1. lol at comparing a 11 years old game called smash64 to the US supreme court, you fail sir

2. my point is, why we have to ignore other ways of playing that people enjoys? If you dont care about the community getting smaller, then i guess its ok to ignore other ways of playing and stay purely competitive. Even if its not that fair, some people like other ways of playing. Some people are too much closed-minded here. Do we want this community to get bigger, or we want it to keep getting smaller and only a very few people will remain and will think "hell yeah im one of the best in the world..." (at a game that no one plays). This reminds me of that Dylan_TNGA thing: "No items, final destination only"

3. what i meant with nerd is someone who is very addicted to this game. I am kinda nerd to some extend, and for me this isnt an insult, on the other hand, "****ing ******" IS an insult, so u fail at comparing stuff again.

 

[Sempiternity]

Bro, you didn't get in. That's that. No johns; ain't that what they say?

There is no prejudice or elitism afoot; it's just that these guys deserved it more than you.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

nixxxon you didn't refute anything

 

[King Funk]

How would you react if you were selected? What would you try to do for the community? How would you contribute?

 

[Fireblaster]

1. lol at comparing a 11 years old game called smash64 to the US supreme court, you fail sir

The point

Your head

2. my point is, why we have to ignore other ways of playing that people enjoys? If you dont care about the community getting smaller, then i guess its ok to ignore other ways of playing and stay purely competitive. Even if its not that fair, some people like other ways of playing. Some people are too much closed-minded here. Do we want this community to get bigger, or we want it to keep getting smaller and only a very few people will remain and will think "hell yeah im one of the best in the world..." (at a game that no one plays). This reminds me of that Dylan_TNGA thing: "No items, final destination only"

Sounds like you have no idea what the backroom is about.

3. what i meant with nerd is someone who is very addicted to this game. I am kinda nerd to some extend, and for me this isnt an insult, on the other hand, "****ing ******" IS an insult, so u fail at comparing stuff again.

"Hey guys, I'm pretty bad at biology so I don't care if you say I'm ******** at it, it's not an insult to me. Therefore, it's not an insult if I call YOU ********"

 

[King Funk]

The backroom is not about taking the best players in the world and putting them in a little club, Nixxxon. Why would I be in it then?

It's about putting some real work to the table, stages, tiers, matchups and contribute in the most efficient way possible to the community. We need experienced, knowledgeable, motivated and smart posters in it.

 

[LLDL]

Dumbest thread ever lol. Mad because casual players can't get into the backroom?...What? Just make a casual thread and post in there. You know, it's proof that just because someone has a high post count doesn't mean they post intelligently.

 

[SilentSlayers]

In case anyone is wondering, I probably didn't apply because I'm too lazy to do that whole application stuff

Pretty much. I was also busy during that time with exams and all. Pretty dumb.

 

[NixxxoN]

Typical fireblaster who can't debate at all and all he does is write agressive bullsh*t, i think im going to stop caring about your responses from now on cuz its pointless to talk with this guy

And guys no im not johning and i dont care who enters in as long as they REALLY DO benefit the community, which, I HIGHLY doubt they will create much valuable stuff, we shall see.

 

[NovaSmash]

It's about putting some real work to the table, stages, tiers, matchups and contribute in the most efficient way possible to the community. We need experienced, knowledgeable, motivated and smart posters in it.

So basically the backroom is going to be the illuminati of the smash community. Like are u guys gonna make new tier list and decide which stages should be banned in tournaments? How will this improve the community?

 

[King Funk]

Typical fireblaster who can't debate at all and all he does is write agressive bullsh*t, i think im going to stop caring about your responses from now on cuz its pointless to talk with this guy

And guys no im not johning and i dont care who enters in as long as they REALLY DO benefit the community, which, I HIGHLY doubt they will create much valuable stuff, we shall see.

You're mad because you got rejected, then say that casuals should have the right to get in the BR, and then you say the BR probably won't produce any good work? Would YOU produce good work? Explain how.

 

[NixxxoN]

You're mad because you got rejected, then say that casuals should have the right to get in the BR, and then you say the BR probably won't produce any good work? Would YOU produce good work? Explain how.

stop being silly now
i was rejected because the backroom seems to be against the ideas that i exposed and they will only focus on competitive play only and will completely ignore the less competitive, more casual play and players, thats what i think its not good because it wont help so much getting more casual players into the community, therefore it will keep getting smaller
I dont think theres so much to debate already about competitive gameplay. We debated stages, matchups and most of the stuff already without a BR.

 

[WOTG]

Yawn, more badgering. No point continuing a fight against the backroom, Nixxxon. It's already done. You can only see the direction it takes until then.

 

[DMoogle]

This thread didn't start out well, and it's definitely not going any toward any good place, so lock time.