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it's amazing how gay they managed to make falco with only lasers and dair.
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Attn: Falco Mains
- Thread starter Sliq
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Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Umbreon Mow, U SHOULD PLAY SHODDY BATTLE SO THAT I CAN VS YOU!!!!!
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Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Dont rush in w/o a plan is important. Eventually if all you do is laser to their shield then pillar they wil see the pattern and find a way around it. Dont be to repetitive and try to change things up when combo'ing etc.
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Sliq
Smash Master
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NO JOHNS. See, I can do it too.
What I'm trying to say is, SHL to dair or grab is not MINDGAMES. It is approach. Too many Falcos rely too heavily on Falco's approach.
Hay gguyz, i has a gun! i go pew pew pew and tthen drill kick peeple's sheilds and then shine, or sumtimes grab instead! im usin mindgames!
I had no idea so many Falcos had personal stake tied into their fighting video game character, otherwise I would have expected idiotic flames instead of legitimate discussion.
Jesus Christ. If someone made a post that said "Jigglypuff's need to use better spacing," you know what I wouldn't do? Get offended.
Holy ****. Please throw your internet away and then melt your computer.
Edit: DruggedFox's above post is basically what I was saying. Thank you for not being a jacka$$.
TheKneeOfJustice
Smash Lord
I don't know why you would really care. If a player is only playing mindless technical games, guess what? Your mind games beat them and you advance to the next round. Eventually that player will learn what they are doing at that point in time is not enough to guarantee a consistent amount of victories, and they will change up their style.
I was personally able to change up my style by playing more platform stages, and incorporating more movement tricks. While yes movement tricks are purely technical in a sense, they serve the purpose to fool the opponent, and force them into a position where I can manipulate them. And that at its core, is mind games.
I was personally able to change up my style by playing more platform stages, and incorporating more movement tricks. While yes movement tricks are purely technical in a sense, they serve the purpose to fool the opponent, and force them into a position where I can manipulate them. And that at its core, is mind games.
th0rn
Smash Lord
Yeah, but mine made sense.
Now if you were to quote that and say no johnz, it would make sense.
And what I was trying to say is how you need to have a controller plugged into your gamecube to play. Also be sure to press the 'power' button.
Also, Falcon's d-air to knee isn't a mindgame.
Foxes u-throw to u-air isn't a mindgame.
DK's u-throw to u-air isn't a mindgame.
See what I'm doing here??? I'm stating random obvious facts JUST LIKE YOU. Maybe I should go post these in all the different character forums.
no wait.. that would be stupid.
EDIT: lol, just read your post.
Agreed. If someone were to post, "Make sure you space with jigglypuff" I wouldn't get offended at all. However, I would post "you need to space with everyone", and then try to show him the stupidity of making a thread about obvious things that have been known forever.
Sliq
Smash Master
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Good point, except none of those things listed are approaches. I said some Falcos rely too heavily on their approach, since Falco's approach is arguably the best in the game. You posted a lits of moves, for some reason.
My point, which in no way applies to you and doesn't require a personal shot at me, is that mediocre Falcos just spam SHL to dair or grab approach, and better players know how to get around it. So they should consider not doing that.
You, the best Falco in the world, have nothing to worry about though, because of the incredible bond you share with Falco.
This thread has gotten ridiculous. Could the Falco mod close it for Christ's sake. No one wants a legitimate discussion. They want themselves a good ole' fashion flame war.
Funny how that wouldn't offend you, but I make this thread, and yet, I don't see passive indifference.
A-Laon
Smash Master
Falco mains really do tend to get rather offended and also somewhat scared when they're told that lasers aren't gonna save their day.
th0rn
Smash Lord
That's cool? I didn't say they were. Maybe try reading a little? (I know you were talking about approaches, i wasn't.) I thought I would add parenthesis because you seem to need explanations .
I was just pointing out stupid obvious things... kinda like this thread?
EDIT: So, if i decide to post something like, "You guys can d-smash with falco by pressing down on the c-stick."
And to everyone who "flames" me I'll say, "Stop getting so offended, you must be scared"
LOL, don't be ridiculous (edit: Sorry prof. Repryx, thanks for grading my paper lulz)
A-Laon
Smash Master
God ****it people. All he's trying to say is that more and more Falco players are lacking the mental play required to get the most out of the character, and that it couldn't hurt and would probably help to see where you can put a little more thought into your game.
This isn't a discussion of effective tactics, it's about recognizing tactical flaws in Falco players (and they ARE increasingly abundant).
This isn't a discussion of effective tactics, it's about recognizing tactical flaws in Falco players (and they ARE increasingly abundant).
-Darc-
Heir to the Monado
Stereotypes are fun.
th0rn
Smash Lord
You could just say that about anyone/anything. I feel you lack having mindgames, I've never seen you win a tourney in my life. Try 'putting more thought into your game".
EDIT: LOL @ darc. "Stereotypes are fun." Exactly, this thread is all stereotyping. How could you post something like that in the falco forum and not expect a response like this?
A-Laon
Smash Master
Well, that was awfully baseless, random, and inane.You could just say that about anyone/anything. I feel you lack having mindgames, I've never seen you win a tourney in my life. Try 'putting more thought into your game".
Now I see why Sliq is asking for this closed.
th0rn
Smash Lord
Funny how you don't mention darc's post or my second part of my post, which is the real reason why it's going to be closed =)
A-Laon
Smash Master
th0rn
Smash Lord
Yet you respond to yourself lacking mental play? Or perhaps, "people really do tend to get rather offended and also somewhat scared "
You should learn not to stereotype.
You should learn not to stereotype.
A-Laon
Smash Master
I'm bored, I'll waste my time.
Yes, you could insist on adding more mental play to just about anything; however, the lack of such in many amateur Falco players is especially abundant and also especially critical, seeing as Falco's susceptibility to gimps is very high, leaving little room for error.
All players, regardless of skill level, will get too aggressive with Falco at times (experience typically being what determines the frequency) and make very tactless actions, relying on Falco's exceptional technical ability to make things work out despite it being used incorrectly.
With the ability to control like Falco possesses, loss of a stock should could only at one's own tactlessness, and, as Sliq is accurately pointing out in this thread, that tactlessness is becoming a pillar of many Falco players' styles.
Yes, you could insist on adding more mental play to just about anything; however, the lack of such in many amateur Falco players is especially abundant and also especially critical, seeing as Falco's susceptibility to gimps is very high, leaving little room for error.
All players, regardless of skill level, will get too aggressive with Falco at times (experience typically being what determines the frequency) and make very tactless actions, relying on Falco's exceptional technical ability to make things work out despite it being used incorrectly.
With the ability to control like Falco possesses, loss of a stock should could only at one's own tactlessness, and, as Sliq is accurately pointing out in this thread, that tactlessness is becoming a pillar of many Falco players' styles.
Banks
Smash Hero
yea i think falco stinks, u should probly try getting mindgames u know what i mean, cuz thats abundant
Ryan-K
Smash Master
OH MY GOD HAHA I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
Losing a stock with any character is a mistake because it means you didn't beat your opponent before they could beat you and little mistakes lead into a lost stock. It's just varied between characters.
Also I still think fox is best in the ga-shot-
th0rn
Smash Lord
So your point is you need to think while you play instead of relying on tech skill.
Wow, who would of thought....
Wow, who would of thought....
A-Laon
Smash Master
Yeah, Sliq's right, you people are just out for defensive flaming.
Have fun.
Have fun.
th0rn
Smash Lord
No johnz, GG Nore. Glad you finally came to the conclusion that this thread was pointless and just stereotype of a falco player.
Ryan-K
Smash Master
Oh uh oops.
A-Laon
Smash Master
Yeah like that.
I'm getting personally flamed for having an honest outlook on any inspecific number and selection of players in the community.
Quality posting people.
I'm getting personally flamed for having an honest outlook on any inspecific number and selection of players in the community.
Quality posting people.
*someone close the thread* nono I wasnt talking about you I was jess saying I didnt know this was a JOke thread (Because I dont stumble on em too often) and I was sayin any Falco that plays along with the Joke as oppose to making a legit inpu on the situation is bad and should be 4 stocked by M2K Its not you Specifically (You arent a Falco)
Ryan-K
Smash Master
No you're getting flamed because you are addressing a community of players in such a way that you are assuming none of them know what the **** they are doing despite 7 pages of this **** and acting like "oh well I don't need to listen to this **** I am the greatest oneoneone"
Jem.
Smash Master
This thread is still open?
Play every falco player, then make an assumption.
Until then, you're the fool.
Play every falco player, then make an assumption.
Until then, you're the fool.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Wow. How is this thread still even open.
Sliq
Smash Master
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Joke topic is joke.
Troll topic is funneh.
Did anyone read this?
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2792266&postcount=52
I mean, look at my sig for crying out loud.
Edit: He's unbanned now, BTW.
Troll topic is funneh.
Did anyone read this?
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2792266&postcount=52
I mean, look at my sig for crying out loud.
Edit: He's unbanned now, BTW.
-Darc-
Heir to the Monado
Sliq is too good.
Jiano
Smash Ace
Sliq you're a ***got.
Ryusiodo
Smash Apprentice
So can a good Falco be played without the use of Pillaring? Is pillaring a vital part of the Falco metagame or is it just a luxury for those who like to go on auto pilot?
siresword
Smash Cadet
ahaha <3
good summary
i think what shiz was trying to say (and others agreed after him) that pillaring is simply another technique that falco has as a part of his arsenal. to make your falco better, its best to have as many techniques as you can right ? so pillaring is a part of the falco metagame (an excellent way to pressure your opponent? or to mess with 'shielders' ? ).
the only 'problem' with pillaring is that people either don't understand what it is (shine to spike combo) or they overrate it