Atlantic North *Pound* 4 Crew

[Inui]

Let's work out what we're doing with this. I've talked to a lot of people about it and I've yet to find someone that didn't agree that I should be the captain of it. I may not even play in it since I'm not that great in singles, but I can definitely lead us to victory. I had a really good plan at Genesis and worked with a very crippled team and did well and made good calls and I know my region very very well (as in, who is strong/weak against what and what characters they use and stuff like that) so I can make the best calls I think.

I need to know what top players from this region are going before I can form our top 10.

1. Ally (Snake)
2. Atomsk (Dedede/Meta Knight/Ice Climbers)
3. ksizzle (Meta Knight/Lucario)
4. Shadow (Meta Knight/Wario)
5. Fatal (Snake)
6. ADHD (Diddy Kong)
7. Candy (Snake)
8. NEO (Marth)
9.
10.

Edit: Okay, I think we got a stellar winning team now... Any problems?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Let's work out what we're doing with this. I've talked to a lot of people about it and I've yet to find someone that didn't agree that I should be the captain of it. I may not even play in it since I'm not that great in singles, but I can definitely lead us to victory. I had a really good plan at Genesis and worked with a very crippled team and did well and made good calls and I know my region very very well (as in, who is strong/weak against what and what characters they use and stuff like that) so I can make the best calls I think.

I need to know what top players from this region are going before I can form our top 10 (I'm assuming that's how it'll work) and we probably get to have 2 alternates.

1. Ally
2. Atomsk
3. ksizzle
4. NEO
5. Fatal
6. ADHD
7. ChuDat
8.
9.
10.

Alternates:


Meep, Shadow, Anti, and others I am unsure of whether they are going or not. The people I currently have listed I know are coming and I most definitely want to use them. Others such as myself, Kool-Aid, Candy, NinjaLink, Junebug, Zucco, Pyronic~Star, etc. will be used if they would be beneficial to the team, but I'm trying to make the strongest and most diverse team possible first,

Pit is diverse as possible since no one uses him at all.

 

[Inui]

Pit is diverse as possible since no one uses him at all.

Pit is too easy to counterpick into oblivion. It's the same reason I'm apprehensive about using Pyronic~Star despite his skill.

 

[xxCANDYxx]

I am saddened that u did not put me in the top 10 >:'(

 

[Kaiber Kop]

I am saddened that u did not put me in the top 10 >:'(

You took my $5.....jerk. No top 10 for you

 

[CT Chia]

There will be plenty of amazing ppl imo that Fatal probably wont be on there

Also, Ally is rly crewing with us? -_-

 

[Inui]

I am saddened that u did not put me in the top 10 >:'(

We already have 2.5 incredible Snakes on there. It's very likely that you'll be used, so don't worry. I'm just trying to see exactly what we're working with first.

There will be plenty of amazing ppl imo that Fatal probably wont be on there

Fatal is clearly the best player in New England and he uses Snake. He obviously should be used.

Also, Ally is rly crewing with us? -_-

Correct. This was decided quite some time ago.

 

[stingers]

yo inui you don't make a crew of 10 + alternates, you make a crew of 10. when it comes time for your match at the tournament then you just pick 8 people out of the 10.

 

[Inui]

yo inui you don't make a crew of 10 + alternates, you make a crew of 10. when it comes time for your match at the tournament then you just pick 8 people out of the 10.

Um, it's always been 10 players per crew with a few alternates in regional crew battles... Is it somehow different now? That's the way it was since before I even joined the community.

 

[stingers]

ask plank. thats what he said @.@

 

[KageMurphy]

Plank said its 8 v/s 8 but you can have 10 to pick from.

In that case Fatal and Chu should not be 100% on with like Boss, June, NL and PS also going. Shadow and Anti are easily better then them so hopefully they go. Candy could be the 8th since he's right up there with Anti and Shadow then pick the last 2 on who's just better. Meep can really cripple people with that grab.

 

[stingers]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8948897&postcount=7682

 

[Inui]

All right, got it.

I don't know if Shadow is going and he can randomly be too aggressive/dumb and everyone is too beastly vs Meta Knight. I also don't know if Anti can go due to his mom.

I very much so want to use ChuDat due to his character. Kirby doesn't have any truly bad stages and nobody will know how to handle a Kirby that is as good as ChuDat's, meaning he can **** someone or several people for us based on that.

 

[Pr0phetic]

1. Ally
2. Atomsk
3. ksizzle
4. NEO
5. NinjaLink
6. ADHD
7. ChuDat
8. Candy

That's not in any order either, just imo. Anti definitely if he can go.

 

[Inui]

I can't use NinjaLink unless he absolutely 100% agrees to obey every single command I give him. I couldn't care less if he thinks his Ice Climbers, Olimar, Marth, and whatever else are amazing and that he can use any character. He will be using Diddy Kong, ROB, and maybe Pikachu, and that's it. His other characters are clearly not on par with those three, and Diddy Kong is clearly his best no matter what he says. I'm afraid he'll try to use some random ass character or force himself to go in when I don't want him in yet or something...

I am apprehensive about using Shadow since he is likely to get wrecked in match-ups he doesn't fully understand because he's aggressive. He also lacks motivation these days, which is clearly harming his performances. It depends on what I see out of him.

I'm not about to shit on New England and use none of their players. Fatal is their best one and he uses Snake and he's been down south plenty of times. We all know he's amazing and can hang with the top players down here. Perfect choice.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Use KoolAid as another New England rep (if he can go) and send him in to **** Snakes, because how would they know the matchup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaE91IndUA

 

[KageMurphy]

I'm not about to shit on New England and use none of their players. Fatal is their best one and he uses Snake and he's been down south plenty of times. We all know he's amazing and can hang with the top players down here. Perfect choice.

Horrible logic, if that's the case you gonna use Vex cause he's the best in PA? Whoever is better and there at Pound 4 is who needs to be put in, simple as that. Fatal ain't better then Candy.

 

[Inui]

Use KoolAid as another New England rep (if he can go) and send him in to **** Snakes, because how would they know the matchup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaE91IndUA

And he gets taken to Rainbow Cruise by a Meta Knight that has experience against Pit like the ones in TX or FL or something, and it's GGs. That's what I'm afraid of. He's also unproven outside of his own region.

We already have people extremely good against Snake in the crew, like Atomsk's Dedede, ksizzle's Meta Knight, and ADHD's Diddy Kong.

Horrible logic, if that's the case you gonna use Vex cause he's the best in PA? Whoever is better and there at Pound 4 is who needs to be put in, simple as that. Fatal ain't better then Candy.

Fatal is currently more active than Candy and is dominating tournaments in his region, a region I know for certain is actually quite good since I've been there and I've played their people. You can't say 6th in MD/VA is better than 1st in New England. I don't think Candy is better than Fatal. They are probably about the same, and in that case I'd like to let New England have some representation and take advantage of Fatal's experience in match-ups most Snakes don't get a lot of practice in, like Falco, Pit, Olimar, ZSS, and Yoshi.

 

[TheTantalus]

I can't use NinjaLink unless he absolutely 100% agrees to obey every single command I give him. I couldn't care less if he thinks his Ice Climbers, Olimar, Marth, and whatever else are amazing and that he can use any character. He will be using Diddy Kong, ROB, and maybe Pikachu, and that's it. His other characters are clearly not on par with those three, and Diddy Kong is clearly his best no matter what he says. I'm afraid he'll try to use some random ass character or force himself to go in when I don't want him in yet or something...

I am apprehensive about using Shadow since he is likely to get wrecked in match-ups he doesn't fully understand because he's aggressive. He also lacks motivation these days, which is clearly harming his performances. It depends on what I see out of him.

I'm not about to shit on New England and use none of their players. Fatal is their best one and he uses Snake and he's been down south plenty of times. We all know he's amazing and can hang with the top players down here. Perfect choice.

This made me laugh about ninjalink

Personally I think Candy is better than Fatal, but thats my opinion

 

[Inui]

Yeah yeah, I'm certain all of MD/VA is going to come in here and say their boy is better. That's freaking obvious. Unlike most people, I'm not regionally biased at all. I just look at results and accomplishments. Right now, Fatal is looking really strong, is really active, and is riding lots of momentum after coming out of a slump. I'd rather take advantage of that and give New England a chance to show their worth by having their best player **** in crews. Trust me, I'm trying to make us win and want us to win really badly. Candy is a very solid choice and will certainly be considered.

 

[KageMurphy]

Yeah yeah, I'm certain all of MD/VA is going to come in here and say their boy is better. That's freaking obvious. Unlike most people, I'm not regionally biased at all. I just look at results and accomplishments. Right now, Fatal is looking really strong, is really active, and is riding lots of momentum after coming out of a slump. I'd rather take advantage of that and give New England a chance to show their worth by having their best player **** in crews. Trust me, I'm trying to make us win and want us to win really badly. Candy is a very solid choice and will certainly be considered.

Candy's performed well at like every OOS tourny he's been to and also got 1st yesterday beating Chu when Fatal got 3rd in his region, an easier region. You mentioned him being 6th on our rankings, well that's true as of now but MD/VA is a way more talented region then New England so Fatal being first isn't that shocking. I'm not biased and you know that, hell I bet against MD/VA all the time LMAO. I was just trying to see where you are basing some choices from.

 

[Inui]

Candy's performed well at like every OOS tourny he's been to and also got 1st yesterday beating Chu when Fatal got 3rd in his region, an easier region. You mentioned him being 6th on our rankings, well that's true as of now but MD/VA is a way more talented region then New England so Fatal being first isn't that shocking. I'm not biased and you know that, hell I bet against MD/VA all the time LMAO. I was just trying to see where you are basing some choices from.

Fatal also got 1st many times before that and wins doubles every single time there. New England isn't that much weaker than MD/VA. Take it from someone that travels a lot and plays a lot of people. PatG is ranked 10th in New England and he beat NinjaLink, Bum, pgn, and other pretty good players yesterday and took 5th at a huge NYC tournament. New England is very good. Fatal is competing in very difficult tournaments. When he comes here, he does really well usually.

I explained my choice in Fatal. He's more active, performs very well, New England needs representation, and he's riding a lot of momentum right now that is likely to carry into Pound 4.

It is highly likely that I will include both players, especially if people like Anti and Meep don't attend.

How does everyone feel about me including Snakeee? Most of the really good ZSS players are here. Outside of the people that get to play Nick Riddle in FL, nobody will be really good against his character. We all know Snakeee is very good. He typically beats all of MD/VA and you have to admit that. I want to include him since I think he'll be really useful.

 

[Seagull Joe]

And he gets taken to Rainbow Cruise by a Meta Knight that has experience against Pit like the ones in TX or FL or something, and it's GGs. That's what I'm afraid of. He's also unproven outside of his own region.

We already have people extremely good against Snake in the crew, like Atomsk's Dedede, ksizzle's Meta Knight, and ADHD's Diddy Kong.



Fatal is currently more active than Candy and is dominating tournaments in his region, a region I know for certain is actually quite good since I've been there and I've played their people. You can't say 6th in MD/VA is better than 1st in New England. I don't think Candy is better than Fatal. They are probably about the same, and in that case I'd like to let New England have some representation and take advantage of Fatal's experience in match-ups most Snakes don't get a lot of practice in, like Falco, Pit, Olimar, ZSS, and Yoshi.

Fatal is ranked 4th. Not 1st.
http://allisbrawl.com/group.aspx?id=6677
1st. Kool-Aid
2nd. Darc
3rd. Bizkit
4th. Fatal.

Fatal also got 1st many times before that and wins doubles every single time there. New England isn't that much weaker than MD/VA. Take it from someone that travels a lot and plays a lot of people. PatG is ranked 10th in New England and he beat NinjaLink, Bum, pgn, and other pretty good players yesterday and took 5th at a huge NYC tournament. New England is very good. Fatal is competing in very difficult tournaments. When he comes here, he does really well usually.

I explained my choice in Fatal. He's more active, performs very well, New England needs representation, and he's riding a lot of momentum right now that is likely to carry into Pound 4.

It is highly likely that I will include both players, especially if people like Anti and Meep don't attend.

How does everyone feel about me including Snakeee? Most of the really good ZSS players are here. Outside of the people that get to play Nick Riddle in FL, nobody will be really good against his character. We all know Snakeee is very good. He typically beats all of MD/VA and you have to admit that. I want to include him since I think he'll be really useful.

When was the last time Snakeee was in Md/Va? Like 6 months ago

 

[Inui]

When was the last time Snakeee was in Md/Va? Like 6 months ago

MD/VA still doesn't have ZSS practice, and Snakeee has been improving like everyone else, so I don't see why much would have changed.

I'm unsure as to how long it's actually been.

Fatal is ranked 4th. Not 1st.
http://allisbrawl.com/group.aspx?id=6677
1st. Kool-Aid
2nd. Darc
3rd. Bizkit
4th. Fatal.

He was ranked 4th because he was in a slump. He won several tournaments in a row, jokingly entering as "4th best in New England" and then beating everyone. He also wins doubles there every single time. He's clearly and obviously the best player up there.

MD/VA is very regionally biased and you have way too much regional pride and think everyone else is inferior/sucks/etc. I'm not letting that garbage pollute this thread or my judgment, so it will have no influence.

 

[Cable]

Put me in the crew plz!!!!!!!!! nobody knows how to fight a DK

 

[Seagull Joe]

MD/VA still doesn't have ZSS practice, and Snakeee has been improving like everyone else, so I don't see why much would have changed.

I'm unsure as to how long it's actually been.



He was ranked 4th because he was in a slump. He won several tournaments in a row, jokingly entering as "4th best in New England" and then beating everyone. He also wins doubles there every single time. He's clearly and obviously the best player up there.

MD/VA is very regionally biased and you have way too much regional pride and think everyone else is inferior/sucks/etc. I'm not letting that garbage pollute this thread or my judgment, so it will have no influence.

Everyone improves.

And I'm certainly not regionally biased. I am just stating where your facts are wrong.

 

[Inui]

1. Ally
2. Atomsk
3. ksizzle
4. NEO
5. Fatal
6. ADHD
7. ChuDat
8. Snakeee
9. Anti
10. Candy

There we have it. A very solid team stuffed full of Snake and MK, the two best characters, and two strange characters that nobody else will know how to fight properly. NONE of these characters get negated by stages like Rainbow Cruise or Brinstar, which would happen to Ice Climbers/Olimar/etc. I think this team is extremely ideal.

If anyone has any objections, let me know in a polite manner with legit explanations. Bias is not going to count for anything.

 

[Cable]

If i prove myself alot more before pound can i be on the team?

 

[Inui]

If i prove myself alot more before pound can i be on the team?

Unlikely because of how incredible the current team already is and the limitations of your character.

We can definitely use you as a hilarious cheerleader, though!

 

[daisho]

Unlikely because of how incredible the current team already is and the limitations of your character.

We can definitely use you as a hilarious cheerleader, though!

DK??? Limited??? The giant ape knows no limitations.

 

[Cable]

Unlikely because of how incredible the current team already is and the limitations of your character.

We can definitely use you as a hilarious cheerleader, though!

LOL ahhhh no cheerleader i can do good on the team! well idk i leave that decision to you but i will be cheering on everybody tho

 

[TheTantalus]

Well, PRs are going to change Inui

you just used the logic of "Well he's ranked 4th in NE, but he's clearly the best"

I can use the logic of "Well he's ranked 6th in MD/VA, but he's clearly 2nd or 3rd" (and he will be going up next PR update, almost assuredly

Good call anyways, I like the 10, 4 snakes is never a bad idea, just would like to see June in there, but thats my bias. Candy is not a biased pick, however

 

[jjvirus]

Even if Meep isn't sure if he's going or not, I'd still say make it Candy/Meep or put Meep instead of Candy.

Like Phil said, Meep could do some real damage if he came to Pound, but that's just me. =/

Aside from that, I like it.

Edit: Kay.

 

[Inui]

Fatal won everything before New England's last PR, had like a bad two months, and then won everything besides one event since the new PR came out... He's obviously the best player there. Anyone can see that. I'm aware that Candy is amazing. He's on the list, isn't he? Junebug is good, but he ain't that good.

Atlantic North's B team would beat the A team of any other region. I'm serious.

Even if Meep isn't sure if he's going or not, I'd still say make it Candy/Meep or put Meep instead of Candy.

Like Phil said, Meep could do some real damage if he came to Pound, but that's just me. =/

Aside from that, I like it.

Ice Climbers are too easy to massacre on a counterpick stage and Meep's Meta Knight isn't good enough to hang with the best of the best. I'm apprehensive about using him due to that, plus his lack of motivation and claims of wanting to take a break and stuff like that. We're not even sure if he's going.

 

[The Sex Puma]

Atomsk needs to throw that DDD out thar.

 

[Inui]

1. Ally (Snake)
2. Atomsk (Dedede/Meta Knight/Ice Climbers)
3. ksizzle (Meta Knight/Lucario)
4. NEO (Marth)
5. Fatal (Snake)
6. ADHD (Diddy Kong)
7. ChuDat (Kirby)
8. Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
9. Anti (Meta Knight/Snake)
10. Candy (Snake)

I included characters for everyone. Characters they typically use in tournaments and win with.

Atlantic North's B Team would **** this event, too. It'd be like...me, NinjaLink, P~S, Shadow, Cable, Zucco, Junebug, and other stupidly good players. We have such an unfair advantage. We better win this thing.

 

[CT Chia]

That crew roster is laughable compared to what is possible.

You say you don't want to use Shadow as he's not sure about all matchups, yet crews is a time when you can choose when to send in certain ppl to get him in on the best matchups. You're missing a lot of some of the best players of certain characters and throwing in not the best of the best characters (using Candy and Fatal for instance). I don't know what would be the best roster of everything, but extreme consideration needs to go to players like Boss, P~S, Shadow, Meep, and Zucco.

How the hell is Meep not a shoe in for this? I don't even understand. A character like Ice Climbers that can eliminate stocks with a grab is a god send for a crew battle.

 

[The Sex Puma]

I remember Meep saying he most likely wasn't going.

 

[Inui]

That crew roster is laughable compared to what is possible.

Nope. It's quite perfect.

You say you don't want to use Shadow as he's not sure about all matchups, yet crews is a time when you can choose when to send in certain ppl to get him in on the best matchups.

Shadow is very good. This is true. Shadow also keeps going back and forth between quitting and being active and stated he has no motivation and isn't enjoying himself much. Do I want that in a crew? Not really. He's another top Meta Knight, and we already have ksizzle and Anti for that.

You're missing a lot of some of the best players of certain characters and throwing in not the best of the best characters (using Candy and Fatal for instance).

Snake > most characters. The 4th and 5th best Snakes out there do better in tournaments than the best Olimar, best Luigi, best whatever else, because of this. Snake is better and much harder to counterpick.

I don't know what would be the best roster of everything, but extreme consideration needs to go to players like Boss, P~S, Shadow, Meep, and Zucco.

Luigi isn't that good and gets counterpicked to hell, and Boss's other option of Mario is even worse.

Olimar is great on neutrals but has numerous horrendous match-ups and stages.

Meep and Shadow were addressed elsewhere.

Zucco is inconsistent. I 2-0'd the guy last weekend and will surely be ranked above him on the next rankings, so let's use me too! Nah. Zucco's been talking about quitting and being em0 about the game. I don't want that attitude in the crew.

You are aware that stage bans don't exist in crews, aren't you? Meaning someone can take Boss's Luigi, P~S's Olimar, etc. to horrifyingly awful stages for them, and we all know they don't have a good enough MK/whatever to deal with that. NONE of the current characters I'm using have that problem.

How the hell is Meep not a shoe in for this? I don't even understand. A character like Ice Climbers that can eliminate stocks with a grab is a god send for a crew battle.

Hmm...

I remember Meep saying he most likely wasn't going.

^^^

Also getting counterpicked to hell.

 

[TheTantalus]

I think its bad, but I agree with Inui's Logic on Meep

Meep is extremely good, but there are a few stages that his character gets wasted on, which would force him to switch to MK, which would be a problem.