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[Mr Wizzrobe]

It happened. Get @ me.

 

[The Star King]

Of course it's dumb.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

But I feel better for saying it out loud.

 

[asianaussie]

jeez you might as well bring up "well the SHORYUKEN is done by KEN AND RYU, whereas Luigi's is done by LUIGI" if you're going to nitpick like that.

also i pronounce "pwned" like "owned" but with a p in front. so powned basically

gouken was the first to have a shoryuken finisher

ken's shoryuken is supposed to be in honour of gouken

i pronounce pwned the same way

 

[Peek~]

>saying pwned/owned past the age of 13

SERIOUSLY GUYS?!

On Topic: I dont know uhhhhhh should I even bother doing the 5th jump with Jiggly when recovering?

 

[The Star King]

In my defense, I only started saying it to mock MATTS!, and it became a habit.

Puff's 5th jump has saved me before, but yeah, it's the tiniest thing ever.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Jiggly's 5th jump always gets me when they're trying to air camp me and I go in for an attack >_>. And maybe 4th dunno.

 

[asianaussie]

yeah, it owns me when they use it for that half second of air stall

then their d-air hits and link is sad

 

[Rubbish]

yeah, it owns me when they use it for that half second of air stall

then their d-air hits and link is sad

What are you approaching with so that the small air stall actually effects you?

Not trying to be offensive, I just can't visualize the scenario. (None of my friends play jiggs)

 

[asianaussie]

link u-tilt, an early link short hop aerial, f-smash

i never said i was approaching

might be the second last jump, but its not very noticeable

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

How is teching different from brawl and melee?

In brawl you have a distance window to consider. Or you can simply buffer a tech 10 frames before hitting a surface.

In Melee, you can tech up to like 20 frames before hitting a surface.

 

[Rubbish]

How is teching different from brawl and melee?

In brawl you have a distance window to consider. Or you can simply buffer a tech 10 frames before hitting a surface.

In Melee, you can tech up to like 20 frames before hitting a surface.

Do you mean in comparison to smash 64?

If you did, it's easily spammable in smash64 because there's no penalty for doing so. The exact timing, I don't know

 

[The Star King]

I think it's the same, except for the fact that you can't tech off walls or ceilings.

 

[asianaussie]

Yeah, 20 frame window sounds about right

the timing seems like it shifts a bit back in Melee, you can press Z almost as you hit the ground in 64 and get the tech

 

[The Star King]

Yeah, 20 frame window sounds about right

the timing seems like it shifts a bit back in Melee, you can press Z almost as you hit the ground in 64 and get the tech

I think it seems that way because apparently you have press L/R all the way, which takes longer to press than N64's Z/R.

 

[asianaussie]

that makes a lot of sense

i just press a split second earlier than i do in 64

 

[Sangoku]

Not sure if Star King is right, since I've played a bit melee on dolphin with other controllers. But again, I suck even more at melee than 64, so I don't know.

edit: question: what makes you fastfall in Yoshi's egg? I think even when I don't touch the joystick I sometimes fastfall.

 

[The Star King]

I'm pretty sure pressing down makes you fastfall lol

 

[Sangoku]

Okay thanks. I asked precisely because I thought I never touched the joystick. Maybe I still did.

 

[B Link]

Does anyone else think that older gamers seem to be better on average than younger gamers in SSB?

 

[Battlecow]

Star King kinda defeats that idea (hate to inflate his ego even further but...)

I mean, yeah, people who've been playing competitively longer are better and also older. I don't think it's an age thing so much as an experience thing. When the game's been out for 50 years, then we'll see if age, and not experience, truly improves you.

 

[The Star King]

I don't think age matters much. Except maybe it's better if you start earlier, because if you look at all the the best of the best Melee players they all started when they were like 15

Don't worry Battlecow, my ego is self-fueled so to speak. You can't either inflate or deflate it ^_^

 

[kys]

I've noticed the younger players tend to get angry and upset when they're losing and they run in like a bull seeing red. The older players who are able to put an online video game into perspective better have cooler heads.

 

[clubbadubba]

i've noticed the younger players tend to get angry and upset when they're losing and they run in like a bull seeing red. The older players who are able to put an online video game into perspective better have cooler heads.

^^ so much truth

 

[Battlecow]

I start camping when I get mad. I play kinda aggro otherwise.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I'll always play aggro in fun games, serious matches ill play to win, and if that means playing defensive / projectile whoring ...it'll be done

 

[ciaza]

We have a 15 year old in the form of JDASH who is very good so of course age does not matter.

James AKA Blaze turned 17 not too long ago as well.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

ciaza how old are you?

 

[ciaza]

12

Why do you ask?

 

[KeroKeroppi]

im just wonderrring.

 

[The Star King]

I've noticed the younger players tend to get angry and upset when they're losing and they run in like a bull seeing red. The older players who are able to put an online video game into perspective better have cooler heads.

Lies

I never get mad when I lose

I am kind of aggro in friendlies most of the time, though, but that's just my style.

 

[ciaza]

Define "younger" and "older".

 

[Olikus]

Define "younger" and "older".

Ill go for 19 and up is old generation, and 18 and down is the new breed =D

 

[kys]

I'm not going to name names, but the "younger" players seem to be APPROXIMATELY 15-18 years old. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT TRUE OF EVERYONE. Just a little general observation is all.

I remember about a year and a half ago back wotg was adamant on this "new and improved generation of smash" that was based on talent and not experience. Because things like talent are completely generational.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

They can be by coincidence.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I think the idea that the new generation of smash is so much better is really over exaggerated lol.

And not that the new players are not good, just that most people seem to think this games on a whole new level that the "smash64 2006" community would have been blown away by.

I don't really think so.

 

[Peek~]

And not that the new players are not good, just that most people seem to think this games on a whole new level that the "smash64 2006" community would have been blown away by.

I don't really think so.

Pivots changed everything

 

[cyoonit123]

Pivots changed everything

i have a hard time using pivots. i never use them unless its for a combo and even then... how can i make pivots more useful?

 

[Battlecow]

I can do pivots more or less perfectly now, I know most of the combo options they give me, and I'm 99.9% consistent.

But only when I'm pivoting to the left. I still can't pivot to the right at ALL. Literally spent two hours yesterday trying to get it to stop feeling awkward and it won't.

 

[cheeseball341]

But only when I'm pivoting to the left. I still can't pivot to the right at ALL. Literally spent two hours yesterday trying to get it to stop feeling awkward and it won't.

Wow, ggs America.