Are we pressuring shields enough?

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Look at Wario's playstyle, time and time again I have to ask myself, "How does that even work?" When Wario jumps at you he often tries to get the opponent to do something that makes them vulnerable.

Now we aren't Wario, but we're Lucario. Our airdodge has the same amount of invincibility frames as Wario's (get creative with BReversals, yo). We have a projectile, our DAir and FTilt have decent reach and can poke.

Now why aren't we playing more hit and run?

For example let's talk about fighting Snake for a moment.

What can Snake do when we terrorize his shield? He can't stop our approaches at that point.

Well, just something to think about.

 

[IceDX]

Nice thinking, ima try it

 

[phi1ny3]

Look at Wario's playstyle, time and time again I have to ask myself, "How does that even work?" When Wario jumps at you he often tries to get the opponent to do something that makes them vulnerable.

Now we aren't Wario, but we're Lucario. Our airdodge has the same amount of invincibility frames as Wario's (get creative with BReversals, yo). We have a projectile, our DAir and FTilt have decent reach and can poke.

Now why aren't we playing more hit and run?

For example let's talk about fighting Snake for a moment.

What can Snake do when we terrorize his shield? He can't stop our approaches at that point.

Well, just something to think about.

This thread's opening got good until the snake part.

What most snakes don't know makes us stronger though

Razer knows though, and it's why this MU sucks hardcore.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Utilt when we approach, it sucks.

I work on tricking my opponent by either fair>Force Plam/Grab or mixing up my approaches more often than not compared to using amazing shield pressure.

 

[D. Disciple]

You can pressure with utilt on his shield. It will poke him out and if he tries to ftilt, we just clash with it.

 

[phi1ny3]

Why can't he just grab?

utilt is really unsafe on block :\

I guess it could work if they have a ftilt habit.

Gah I hate playing against this character, you literally have to bait everything out of him, no fighting and punishing him directly

I think its me sucking at the MU more than anything else.

 

[iRJi]

Why can't he just grab?

utilt is really unsafe on block :\

I guess it could work if they have a ftilt habit.

Gah I hate playing against this character, you literally have to bait everything out of him, no fighting and punishing him directly

I think its me sucking at the MU more than anything else.

Naa, its the character.

 

[phi1ny3]

I mean, it's a good MU if you get a sleeper on them, but it's so hard.

Imma find a way through this, I wanna see what options this character has out of each move Snake can throw out.

 

[D. Disciple]

Don't underestimate the tilts

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I love tilts, except Dtilt unless I get lol kills on people with it.

 

[phi1ny3]

I found a couple of cool uses for dtilt, particularly one in the Marth MU.

 

[D. Disciple]

Fun fact, dtilt will hit MK if he tries to dimension cape to the edge, or shuttle loop with out sweet spotting it correctly.

Don't know about drill though, gonna have to test that one out.

 

[iRJi]

Best options for Dtilt are using it on the back of someone's shield, or hitting someone who is attempting to DI into the ledge. That is from my experience.

 

[phi1ny3]

imo it's also good if they're DIing away from your grab after AA.

 

[iRJi]

It is. If they DI up actually. If its just away they can land before it will get to them.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I like all these ideas for Dilts, I need to try them out more, thanks guys.