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ALASKA Smash Thread

Z-row

Z-row

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Actually, based on the fact that we normally hold smashfests at people's houses, it is actually somewhat exclusive. Anyway, y'all are ******** for arguing in the first place. Mike's right, but he's a *******, matt's wrong but he's a *******. THe facts are you've been doing things that are inconsiderate. Things that cause people undue stress. Fix it and leave personal vendettas out of it. This was his house and you violated it. Period. From practicing DI to practicing her deepthroating technique, it's none of anyone's business what they were doing and you have to respect their decisions. I know how it sounds, but believe me, it's not that way, but you behave like such a child, assuming you know more than you actually do. the only person at any real fault here is you and insulting Mike won't change the results. I agree with the decision and I doubt anyone will do too much to help you. So the real choice is your's. Abide by those rules or don't come.
 
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just a few cents.

The smash community..is a private club.
we are in no way obligated to facilitate the growth or pleasure of any one or multiple parties. [although kira provides both by default]

the people allowing other people to participate can do what they want, when they, and how they want.
they can pick and choose who comes and who doesnt.

Looking back to a conversation i had with james somewhat recently, about how excluding people is wrong blah blah i can see how the topic has relvance to current discussion.
regardless of the morality of exclusion, the fact remains that it is up to the ones in power and the ones with authority to make executive decisions.

We are not under contract.
Just people who play the same game.

play by the rules that are set, or do you're own thing.
thats it.


also:

>>2over900023
Get.
 
Mattnumbers

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James don't be so hypocritical. You were one of the biggest preachers of how we were a competitive gaming community and how no one gets excluded.

And James, you have no right whatsoever to judge me, I've never even really talked to you privately and you're just talking out your *** as usual. You don't know anything about how I think or who I am.

Anyways, I'm just annoyed right now because you guys are following typical social patterns. Mike will start to talk about me negatively and slowly even the people who aren't mad at me right now won't want me around. Since Mike is the main driver of the community smashfests in ER will be very hard to pull off. Similar to what I said earlier, because of how much he posts things regarding me negatively, the view will become that I am disliked, which will lead to true dislike whether people did or did not originally have a problem with me. He is the main driver, he talks the most and holds the strongest opinions, changing the way others think without them noticing, and he makes declarations that he holds as facts without asking others for input. Having someone that influential is a very bad thing for the community. Do you really want a single person to dictate what happens? This is the way dictators come to power, and as they say, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Although I hold some of you in high enough regard to not be tricked by this classic social situation, so I still have a lot of hope. I broke off from the social scene in my school to avoid the ignorant masses, but luckily even if you guys end up being the same way, I can still enjoy myself playing the game.

I don't hold grudges against people, whats past is past, but when its actively happening and I see something bad coming the sad sad irony of watching something bad unfold before my eyes really depresses me.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: I don't dislike Mike or anyone else, I simply dislike some of their actions. This is how I judge people, and unless I can see that they will never change I will always welcome them as a friend.



Also I agreed like 2 pages ago that I would find a place to stay before coming, I'm just saying that if I CAN'T, I'll just sleep outside. It will be a cool experience, it'll give me more stuff to talk about.
 
Che_Lab

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ok matt chill dude
there is no social situation or sad sad irony or any of this **** you are making up
you either find a place to stay before you come out here, or you dont come. sleeping outside isnt a **** option. what would peoples parents think of that? what would your parents think of that? Hell I don't think very highly of that.
about you saying that mike is the voice of reason and we will all follow his opinion,
i dont give a **** what mike thinks
and im pretty sure i was the first person to voice my opinion on this
just sayin dude. you can compare us to the ignorant masses all you want but this isn't really something thats up for discussion, or "debate".


just clarify with people beforehand and it won't be a problem. debating it like this is.
 
Z-row

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Well, whether or not we're all a bunch of philistines, we're going to be having fun smashing, and if you want to be a part of it, you'll adhere to the rules we set.
 
Xanskar

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this is mike.

james is right. those are the rights we set. either u adhere to them or dont come. unless i see an improvement in your behavior you will continue to be banned from all smashfests. end of discussion, we are done here. if matt continues to keep arguing then im just gonna ignore it. my suggestion is that we all do the same thing.
 
Mattnumbers

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I've seen this situation happen many many times during my life, both to me and to other people. This happens all the time, it's very basic group thinking. I've even warned many groups that this is happening, then watched it unfold while facepalming. Studying how people interact and think is what I do every day at school, and at home I spend most of my time going over the information I collected. I've also been able to see group mechanics at work in Boy Scouts, where there is an assigned leader. Although I think that most people are good at heart, people are generally very ignorant and easy to use. They can change their opinion for ridiculous reasons and stick to their old opinions for equally ridiculous reasons.

Now, as I said, I'm already going to find a place to stay every weekend now, and you shouldn't care what I decide to do if I don't find anywhere because I will be sure to not make it involve you. I know how to sleep outside in the winter, and it mixes things up and makes them interesting.

So, I agree that I'll never force anyone to house me due to not being able to go somewhere else again. That should be plenty good.

Mike, I already adhered to what everyone wanted me to do, don't add stupid **** to the list of stuff I have to do, especially not things that are due to your own problems with me. You are being completely ridiculous
 
Xanskar

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spacing_out said:
Why can't people just post from their own accounts...?
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Because it's easier to post on someone else's account when the account is already logged in as opposed to logging out, logging in your own account, then posting.
Especially when it's on an iPhone.
 
Mattnumbers

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Erm, I'm PRETTY sure that you are the ONLY one thats really mad at me right now. Some others may be annoyed, but I think you should stop speaking for other people. Caleb probably doesn't care either way, and I think Jason probable has a similar mindset. James is annoyed at me right now I don't think he's THAT mad. I haven't even talked to Kira, I'm avoiding that from now on as I already gave a warning of Mike's intentions and its her own problem now, not like she really helps me much when I'm down anyways. Still, I don't think she's all that mad either. Matt S and I are on good terms, same with Arthur (assuming he returns) all the Wasilla/vally peeps are fine with me as well.

Also, that's horrible logic; cancel the event because you don't like someone even though they aren't even allowed to come? What?
 
Rina-chan

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Mattnumbers said:
not like she really helps me much when I'm down anyways.
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Because after a while, people stop trying. If all you do is complain about your situation, and every time someone gives you advice you just argue and debate all the way across Final Destination, eventually everyone is just going to say that you make your own choices.
 
Mattnumbers

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I meant that the advice you give me doesn't help much when I said that, not that you weren't trying to help me. In other words I just don't like the advice you give me and I don't trust it. Especially when I see you going AGAINST your own advice.

Your constructive criticisms are fine but your solutions to the problems are not.

No one is perfect and you shouldn't take any of that as an insult. You have a lot of great qualities as well, you just aren't very good at helping me solve my problems is all. More of a problem for me than a problem for you.

Also Final Destination really isn't all that long.......
 
Mattnumbers

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But mike you forgot that you have existed from the morning of the world and you shall exist until the last star falls from the night, although you have taken the form of Gaius Caligula Michael Phang, you are all men but you ARE NO MAN. AND THEREFORE YOU ARE.........a god.

(If you are all men you aren't in the group of "no ONE")
 
gingerbreadchar

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Mattnumbers said:
you just aren't very good at helping me solve my problems is all.
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I know this is none of my business, but you shouldn't expect people to solve your problems for you. It's all up to you really. I'm not picking sides or anything, but friends don't solve your problems for you. I'm telling you this because I kind of had to learn this the hard way....
 
Rina-chan

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What Charlie said. Also, maybe advice doesn't work on you because you seemed to be so closed minded to looking at a different perspective than your own or what you think is right.

If you only accept input from people who are 'perfect' go talk to Mike I guess
 
DaemonFang

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Rina-chan said:
What Charlie said. Also, maybe advice doesn't work on you because you seemed to be so closed minded to looking at a different perspective than your own or what you think is right.

If you only accept input from people who are 'perfect' go talk to Mike I guess
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james and cho drink, i go to fightclub, jason takes his walks, caleb smokes weed, matt watches kenshin, i dunno wtf kira does, from what i assume, she prolly cooks and cleans, cuz shes a woman and all. but everyone has their own way of dealing with things.

and kira, im flattered and all, but even im not gonna advise matt+ at this point.
 
spacing_out

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DaemonFang said:
james and cho drink, i go to fightclub, jason takes his walks, caleb smokes weed, matt watches kenshin, i dunno wtf kira does, from what i assume, she prolly cooks and cleans, cuz shes a woman and all. but everyone has their own way of dealing with things.

and kira, im flattered and all, but even im not gonna advise matt+ at this point.
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Oh, and iFap.
 
Mattnumbers

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Rina-chan said:
What Charlie said. Also, maybe advice doesn't work on you because you seemed to be so closed minded to looking at a different perspective than your own or what you think is right.

If you only accept input from people who are 'perfect' go talk to Mike I guess
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For one, I seriously would not be calling me close minded. I may have my faults but that is most definitely not one of them. Also, I said that no one is perfect, not that I need someone that is perfect. I'm just looking for someone who has their flaws somewhere else I guess.

And as to what charlie said, I'm not asking for people to solve my problems, I'm asking for people to HELP solve my problems. That's what friends are supposed to do if I remember correctly, and it's not exactly strange for someone to ask their friends for help.
 
Mattnumbers

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Anyways, the reason I joined the community was to play smash, you guys don't have to talk to me if you don't want to. This whole thing has been blown WAY out of proportion, and it should just stop now. Just let me come into town and play the game, I won't converse with you if you don't want me to.
 
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