A thought about character models

[superyoshi888]

I'm not sure how true this is, but Giga Bowser and Warioman have a small file compared to actual playable characters because they only have their own model. For the animations, they reference Bowser and Wario, right? Also, wouldn't this be how the moveswap code works? Say you are Ganondorf and you moveswap with Captain Falcon. You are using the Ganondorf model, but it references Falcon's animations.

Theoretically, we could ISO hack Brawl and add in Dr. Mario's Melee model and have him reference Mario's animations through a few lines of code. Then, we could edit the attributes of Dr. Mario to make him seperate enough from Mario to not be a true clone. We could also even do this with Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, and Young Link, matching them with their respective base/similar characters.

 

[Shadic]

Young Link would be complicated because he's a different size than Link, unless you're thinking Toon. But Toon Link has a distorted body.

The others likely are feasible, but we need the codes first.

 

[Sprint]

and is it worth the trouble?

 

[bleyva]

edit:nevermind

 

[Zantetsu]

And who would we match Mewtwo with? No one is even close to Mewtwo in brawl. Don't say Lucario either because they have one move that's similar and that would be the neutral b. Everything else is way different.

 

[n88]

Interesting, but as previously stated, Mewtwo and Toon Link would not work. Also, I would like a way to tie the character to a costume change. I'm not getting rid of Marth, Pikachu, and Mario.

 

[illinialex24]

Toon Link is close to Young Link, there are already close models to him.

Mewtwo with changed animations (codes) could be close enough to Lucario, and we could possibly set it up to tie it to a costume.....

 

[FSLink]

And who would we match Mewtwo with? No one is even close to Mewtwo in brawl. Don't say Lucario either because they have one move that's similar and that would be the neutral b. Everything else is way different.

Couldn't you theoretically just change the moveset as well too?
Toon Link as Young Link could definitely work if you could change the weight a bit and add that awesome fire spike of his and his arrows. There's texture hacks that look close enough.

 

[n88]

Couldn't you theoretically just change the moveset as well too?

Theoretically. But that would mean making new animations, which, to my knowledge, is not currently doable. Lucario =/= Mewtwo, despite what some think. Mewtwo's model may not be able to perform Lucario's moveset properly. It would have to be tested.

 

[dabridge]

It sounds crazy, but Charizard has a lot of tilt moves (air too, and some smash) that are the same as Mewtwo's, or very similar in speed/size. I know it would look weird, but still.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

It sounds crazy, but Charizard has a lot of tilt moves (air too, and some smash) that are the same as Mewtwo's

You mean one tilt, and one aerial?

Mewtwo never attacks using his head. (In a physical sense , he really uses his head all the time)

 

[dabridge]

Not animation-wise, but there are similar moves with the same type of hitbox.

 

[KRDsonic]

Dumb suggestion probably, but...

If people were to ever find a way to combine parts of movesets, wouldn't then be able to give mewtwo Sheik's teleport and take away the explosion and speed it up?

 

[n88]

Dumb suggestion probably, but...

If people were to ever find a way to combine parts of movesets, wouldn't then be able to give mewtwo Sheik's teleport and take away the explosion and speed it up?

Yes, but this entire thread is based on something you could theoretically do. What we need is some hackers to see if you can. Any volunteers?

 

[dabridge]

To be honest, I would just be happy if Lucario's model was replaced with Mewtwo's. I personally don't care if their movesets aren't the same. Mixing movesets to make a completely new one would be pretty complicated.

There's a thread about model replacing for characters in the workshop, apparently they're actually getting somewhere.

 

[n88]

To be honest, I would just be happy if Lucario's model was replaced with Mewtwo's. I personally don't care if their movesets aren't the same. Mixing movesets to make a completely new one would be pretty complicated.

There's a thread about model replacing for characters in the workshop, apparently they're actually getting somewhere.

What I'm trying to say is that Mewtwo's model may not be able to use Lucario's animations without looking very strange or glitching. I wouldn't mind the changed moveset for Mewtwo, I just don't want a glitchy one.