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A Second Dojo (DEBUNKED)
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MajinNecro69
Smash Ace
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Ya know what? I don't even know WHAT to do with him. I just wanna get a load of what he says tomorrow. I'll be in for a hoot.
If i had to pick a 'prophet' that was my favourite, it'd be this guy.
He's either:
a) completely telling the truth
or;
b) making it up, in which case he is excellent, he hasn't been caught out once yet.
Personally i don't consider the Charizard move a slip up. I mean, he said a different name for it. If i had insider Brawl info and was updating a blog, i doubt i'd be able to actually name the move correctly, i'd just describe it, which is exactly what he's done.
Another think which makes me think twice about him is that while Serebii has debunked practically every other prophet, he's not said a peep about this guy and avoids all questions to do with him.
He's very careful, and that's why i think he's winning my respect out of all the 'prophets' so far. It's going to be interesting to see if anything else he's said so far turns out to be true, or false for that matter.
And if the 3rd party is Capcom, he'd better include Arthur on that, because that would be an amazing addition to the cast.
He's either:
a) completely telling the truth
or;
b) making it up, in which case he is excellent, he hasn't been caught out once yet.
Personally i don't consider the Charizard move a slip up. I mean, he said a different name for it. If i had insider Brawl info and was updating a blog, i doubt i'd be able to actually name the move correctly, i'd just describe it, which is exactly what he's done.
Another think which makes me think twice about him is that while Serebii has debunked practically every other prophet, he's not said a peep about this guy and avoids all questions to do with him.
He's very careful, and that's why i think he's winning my respect out of all the 'prophets' so far. It's going to be interesting to see if anything else he's said so far turns out to be true, or false for that matter.
And if the 3rd party is Capcom, he'd better include Arthur on that, because that would be an amazing addition to the cast.
MajinNecro69
Smash Ace
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You just made me realize...Serebii did NOT say a thing about him. What's odd, is that almightygoat said Blaziken was PokeBalled. He didn't say anything when the ZERO-ONE from Snap was AT'd. He also referred to a life raft Diddy & Samus picked up (on the way to SmashVille to fight exorcism-bound Tortimer) from a "famous ship," which I assume to be the St. Anne. Not a peep from Serebii...
Notably, Serebii merely questioned the name of the move (Charizard's highly contested Air Slash/Cutter/etc.), rather than scoffing at his description.
I have a feeling that if this is the real Serebii on SmashBoards, then we might wanna keep an eye on almightygoat.
I posted it in another thread, but Mewtwo DOES in fact learn Teleport; it's TM30 in the RBY generation. Also worth noting is the fact that Pikachu learns Skull Bash in RBY thanks to TM40. So there is a basis for those moves, it's just outdated. As for Rest, I actually think Jiggs should be able to recover a little bit when she uses Rest, just to keep things kosher, so to speak. I also think that Thunder Jolt should be officially changed to ThunderShock, but that's just me. I'm admittedly a Pokémaniac (but not the Super Nerd / Charizard-dressing kind!).
And--interestingly enough--both Ivysaur and Squirtle have attacks that stay true to the games. Ivysaur has Bullet Seed (Neutral - TM09), Razor Leaf (Side - Lv 20), Vine Whip (Up - Bulbasaur - Lv 9), and SolarBeam (Final Smash - Lv 44); Squirtle has Water Gun (Neutral - Lv 13), Withdraw (Side - Lv 10), Waterfall (Up - HM07), and Hydro Pump (Final Smash - Lv 37). So far, Charizard does as well: Flamethrower (Neutral - Lv 42), Rock Smash (Side - HM06), and Fire Blast (Final Smash - TM38). It would only make sense for Charizard to have a move that he actually learns.
The question is, though, how careful are they about these tidbits? They aren't character leaks, which are arguably what most people want to see. With little pieces of information about Items and ATs, is Nintendo going to be that concerned? I'm not saying that he's a reliable source--he most certainly isn't, and I agree with you--but I'm just wondering if he's really anything that Nintendo would be concerned about in the first place, just given the type of information that he's been "revealing."
It is an interesting read. Fake, probably, but interesting nonetheless.
Exactly. I mean, i'm still dubious about all supposed leakers, but i do get enjoyment out of them, and it is interesting when little tidbits get confirmed. He's the only one i'm keeping an eye on now.
bigknuxred
Smash Cadet
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I bet a DUB its Mewtwo wait wrong quote I meant the one that said a cut Character from melee will play a huge part in Subspace emissary and I bet money it's mewtwo
Tortimer is a boss? Hmmm.
I don't like the fact that this guy is slowly "revealing" his info according to DOJO updates. That seems incredibly suspicious to me. Most leakers reveal everything at once. After all, why wait? That kinda defeats the purpose that these "sources" set out to do.
Of course there is one way to prove it once and for all. Tell Nintendo about him. But what if he IS the real deal and they shut him down (so to speak)? Then we will have lost a valuable info source. The question here is: Does anyone have the guts?
I don't like the fact that this guy is slowly "revealing" his info according to DOJO updates. That seems incredibly suspicious to me. Most leakers reveal everything at once. After all, why wait? That kinda defeats the purpose that these "sources" set out to do.
Of course there is one way to prove it once and for all. Tell Nintendo about him. But what if he IS the real deal and they shut him down (so to speak)? Then we will have lost a valuable info source. The question here is: Does anyone have the guts?
CyberBenX4
Smash Apprentice
Wow...I completely forgot about that.
Interesting...but in hindsight, it does make sense. By the time of Smash Melee/DX's development and release, it would still be a while before PKMN Ruby and Sapphire would come out, thus why they only had the "G/S/C" standard to go by (which carried over R/B/G/Y's rulings).
Of course, by now, it seems Sakurai is just sticking with some of the RBY-rulings, probably because he couldn't be bothered to try and completely work some characters from the ground-up. Which is a shame, because I really think that Smash Pikachu could have stood to benefit from something like Thunder Punch or Iron Tail, instead, but oh well.
Yes the real Serebii is on smashboards as Serebii. Theres no reason to doubt that.
The Franchise
Smash Journeyman
His updates are interesting but truthfully there is nothing there that sperates him from all the other prophets floating around. Also, some of his boss and assist trophies seem a bit iffy to me.
krabbymcnabby
Smash Cadet
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I've been following his updates before coming here and i would like his updates to be true. I can just imagine vs. Mayor Tortimor as a boss 
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
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I'm curious. I like this guy's style. He seems very believeable AND he's keeping up boundaries.
I'm interested to see where this guy goes.
I'm curious. I like this guy's style. He seems very believeable AND he's keeping up boundaries.
I'm interested to see where this guy goes.
ChaoticTH
Smash Ace
BTW, anone notice how FForcesSultan deleted his/her latest entry?
Mad555
Smash Ace
I am honestly hopping that stage builder unlockables update is true
Anyone else agree? I really hope that happens.
Anyone else agree? I really hope that happens.
ChaoticTH
Smash Ace
Seems a bit ridiculous that Stage Builder gets exclusive music.
WoapGang
Mighty Soul of Woapgang
Didn't anyone realize that there IS a move called Air Slash?
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/airslash.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/airslash.shtml
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
Ummm.... that's why he said they would be partners because it's already a known fact. He mentioned stage builder because there was a stage builder update on the dojo also.......
1ofMany_ppl
Smash Apprentice
I don't know about anyone else here, considering there are so many skeptics ( though I guess you'll have those regardless) but reading all this 'supposed" info on AT's and Subspace Emmissary has got me even more hyped than I was before....Though not because he may be telling the truth but rather it's opened my eyes to how creative this game will be and how it may just blow everyone's mind with the all the odd concepts and designs. I mean if someone who didn't work on this project could have such creative yet somewhat believable ideas then Nintendo itself would be able to think of ideas just as good if not better.
For now I'm enjoying each post he puts up. If anything it's fun to read and "for now" gives us info to speculate on, which seemingly passes the time as the release date draws near.
My favorites so far are the NiGHTS AT idea and the Animal Crossing leaf/furniture item.
For now I'm enjoying each post he puts up. If anything it's fun to read and "for now" gives us info to speculate on, which seemingly passes the time as the release date draws near.
My favorites so far are the NiGHTS AT idea and the Animal Crossing leaf/furniture item.
Linkeatspie
Smash Apprentice
As I mentioned before, this guy seems more believable than others, but...
...it seems like everytime an issue is brought up with his claims, he 'fixes' it the next day. Like when someone mentioned why Rival Trainer would be a boss and you face him with PT, due to the fact that most of the time the good guys (e.g., kirby) and the bad guys (e.g., Petey Piranha) are usually from two completely seperate franchises. The next day, this guy says that his sources lied to him about Rival Trainer being a boss. Coincedence?
Also, though Air Slash is a move, the day after CoroCoro reveals Charizard's UP+B as Air Cutter (which was after he said Air Slash was the move) he changes it and says that Charizard's attack was indeed, Air Cutter. In addition, he seemed to overreact when he was charged for being that one 15-year old on IGN. He made like three seperate posts about it.
So this guy might not be as reliable as thought (though most of us don't consider him reliable anyway, of course.)
...it seems like everytime an issue is brought up with his claims, he 'fixes' it the next day. Like when someone mentioned why Rival Trainer would be a boss and you face him with PT, due to the fact that most of the time the good guys (e.g., kirby) and the bad guys (e.g., Petey Piranha) are usually from two completely seperate franchises. The next day, this guy says that his sources lied to him about Rival Trainer being a boss. Coincedence?
Also, though Air Slash is a move, the day after CoroCoro reveals Charizard's UP+B as Air Cutter (which was after he said Air Slash was the move) he changes it and says that Charizard's attack was indeed, Air Cutter. In addition, he seemed to overreact when he was charged for being that one 15-year old on IGN. He made like three seperate posts about it.
So this guy might not be as reliable as thought (though most of us don't consider him reliable anyway, of course.)
Agosta44
Smash Ace
I kinda facepalmed when he changed it from air slash to air cutter, because he was right from the beginning.
Also, when was Charizards up B confirmed?
Also, when was Charizards up B confirmed?
Krell
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, I did a total "wtf?" when he corrected himself on Air Slash, that is what I recalled the move being called... definitely not "Air Cutter", that is probably just a more literal translation of the Japanese.
By the latest issue of Coro Coro, which had character cards describing moves.
Uchiha.Sanosuke
Smash Journeyman
The fact that this guy is going to be on Smash Dash is a make it or break it moment for me.
If his prediction is something completely random and bizzare, then it might just kill the credibility for me.
If it's something worthwhile, though, then he might've just won me over.
He's the only prophet I'm bothering to take a second glace at, because he's turning out to be...well...interesting, to say the least.
If his prediction is something completely random and bizzare, then it might just kill the credibility for me.
If it's something worthwhile, though, then he might've just won me over.
He's the only prophet I'm bothering to take a second glace at, because he's turning out to be...well...interesting, to say the least.
Yes, that's how I feel too. I think thealmightygoat (from Gamespot) is the only credible leaker so far.
Krell
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, he mentioned this Smash Dash thing... what in gods name is that? Can I get a link?
Diddy&Dixie4evr
Smash Apprentice
If he is true about the ATs having two Trophies then that blows my dixie theory in the toilet, oh well I hope he isn't completly false just on that part.
No, he said every AT has a trophy right?
Oops, I thought you meant the Dojo. @.@
Sorry.
Yeah, read Krell's post.
Again, my bad.
Krell
Smash Journeyman
Nilok
Smash Journeyman
That's not true. Think of it this way, they guy is basically giving Nintendo free advertisement, for instance when he shows off the 5 names, people will get exited for all of them and still go out and buy the game.
At the same time, Nintendo could be in fact using this person as their version of Viral Marketing, notice how this person gives some juicy and interesting details but refrains from giving any real character and plot. This however is merely a theory.
Nintendo aren't stupid, nor are they saintly, even if they have never come in contact with this person directly. They know that this can only increase their sales of Brawl, the more people hear about it, the more people want to play it. If it was a book or a movie, it would be different, but a game can truly only be enjoyed by playing it.
Thats just me, but I could be wrong.
Chepe
Smash Lord
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lol he seems to have shot himself in the foot a bit. Air Slash DOES EXIST in Pokemon, it is a move introduced in Diamond/Pearl! And Charizard indeed learns it, so Charizard's Up B would indeed be Air Slash instead of Air Cutter, which it cant even learn! The thing is, in Japanese Air Slash might be referred to as Air Cutter, just like Razor Leaf is referred to as Leaf Cutter...
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
Air Cutter: エアカッター
Air Slash: エアスラッシュ
Charizard's Up Special definately is not anyhting with air. The first 2 characters in each name are not the ones that appear on his card.
WaterToFire
Smash Apprentice
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He corrected himself today...
Dubyah8r
Smash Journeyman
ALL PRAISES BE TO THE GOAT!!!!!!!! I check this guy before the Dojo now... his info is better.
but not true, read the above fine peice of chi that deconfirms him completly.
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