A question..

[Tristan_win]

So I know I should be working on my thread about ftilt set ups but the lack of actively disturbs me ..and the fact MGS4 comes out like tonight has greatly slow me down.

Now I’m not trying to toot my own horn but if someone was kind enough to go and give out percentages for combos I would be ecstatic.

I know I was quite pleased when the tilt lock percentages was given but this lack of activity has made me ponder something

Do the rest of the Sheik user even bother looking at percents?

Of course most of you your initial responds will be “Yes, I need to know if it’s time to switch to Zelda”

Well I’m talking about before that...

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages you can put someone in a tilt lock?

Do any of you have a general idea of how much damage your opponents need before a sweet spot fair can lead into a ftilt combo effectively?

Do any of you ever think about how much damage you can deal out before they can hit you and how much damage they will cause when they do?

Do any of you even bother looking at what percentage your opponents at before you throw them?

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages can kill with Sheik?

Do any of you ever look at your own percentage before switching to Zelda, thinking about the strongest attack they can possible hit you with and even follow up with after the switch?

I know I sure do and because of this I’ve been getting better in leap and bounds but is everyone else?

 

[hurricane22491]

Basically, yes to all the questions. I keep an eye on percentages throughout the whole match, especially when I play Sheik, and I try to learn and remember when I can kill, when I can lead into tilts, from tilts, etc.

 

[Squidster]

Do the rest of the Sheik user even bother looking at percents?
Yes I need to know when to switch to Zelda.

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages you can put someone in a tilt lock?
I've been working on this, yes. I don't have the whole list memorized but I'm getting better (no longer going for it at 0%)

Do any of you have a general idea of how much damage your opponents need before a sweet spot fair can lead into a ftilt combo effectively?
I have never done SS fair -> Ftilt. Sounds sweet though o.0 lol

Do any of you ever think about how much damage you can deal out before they can hit you and how much damage they will cause when they do?
Yupyup, always comparing %s

Do any of you even bother looking at what percentage your opponents at before you throw them?
Yupyup, *elbow/face*

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages can kill with Sheik?
Nope. Gimp with sheik < 100%
Switch to zelda at 100%. Sometimes switch earlier and camp with dins for awhile. I don't kill with sheik unless i get a lucky SS Usmash

Do any of you ever look at your own percentage before switching to Zelda, thinking about the strongest attack they can possible hit you with and even follow up with after the switch?
Yeah but I generally try to be careful when i switch so i wont get hit. I have miscalculated before and gotten killed right as i come out though. (its all <3's fault)

 

[Zankoku]

I do worse when I pay attention to percentages any more than "he's living too long. *ker-Zelda*"

 

[imdavid]

umm lets see... yes i look at my percent enough to know when i should start being campy as hell and to get as many hits in before they manage to land in that one ko move that is destined to send me flying no matter where i am on the stage

i know the percentages of tilt locking of those who i play the most (aka g&w, mk, marth, rob, i also know fox just because he's funny >.<)

for the fair to ftilt combo i generally look at their knockback rather than percents, not as accurate but that way if i miss the SS i know what to do afterwards *shrugs*

i do NOT look at percents when i throw, i just habitually elbow once-twice -> dthrow *whistles*

i know what % kills for the people i play most against, but i try to get most of my kills by gimping

i switch to zelda whenever theres enough knockback from my dsmash or sourspot usmash etc, i never transform unless its safe >.<

sorry if that discourages you tristan :/ i enjoy your works though and i input them into the match ups i play the most i try to be a sponge and absorb all the good knowledge you give me ^^

 

[demodemo]

Do the rest of the Sheik user even bother looking at percents?
To some degree, but a lot of the time it is just sense. Like if i got a couple of ftilts on him and some more hits, i just know naturally the next ftilt i do wont link to another one and i hav eto continue with an aerial

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages you can put someone in a tilt lock?
no, i just see how much the first ftilt does, then improvise

Do any of you have a general idea of how much damage your opponents need before a sweet spot fair can lead into a ftilt combo effectively?
again, i just see how much damage/ knocback the fair does, then improvise

Do any of you ever think about how much damage you can deal out before they can hit you and how much damage they will cause when they do?
No, I always try to get as many hits as possible, unless i am at a high percentage. I know this is bad, its just how i play

Do any of you even bother looking at what percentage your opponents at before you throw them?
i grab, then look at the percentage. i rarely look at the percentage then decide to grab. Bad, but whatever

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages can kill with Sheik?
it fluctuates too much to bother. You can kill at like 100% with a sweetspot usmash, but can also kill really low with some fairs and edgegaruding. not worth memorizing IMO, and easy to calculate seeing how fair your opponents fly with you hit them

Do any of you ever look at your own percentage before switching to Zelda, thinking about the strongest attack they can possible hit you with and even follow up with after the switch?
I rarely switch to Zelda. When i do i usually anticipate it too much, and get punished.

 

[Cobra]

I look at them vaguely to know whether a Vanish will kill them or if I'll be able to initiate a tilt lock SOMETIMES, but still...it's much more feel then cold hard statistics for me.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

you gotta pay attention to everything o.O

if you dont know what percents they (and YOU as well) are at at all times that's just silliness.

 

[Cobra]

Yeah, but there is a difference between knowing what percentage you are at and what they are at and what should work in said situations.

...and

"Okay, so he's at 80%, I need him to be at 113% before I can kill him with a Boost Smash, so all I hae to do is short hop into a bair grab hit twice and throw forward to an FAir, and then I can launch him."


One is way too much thinking, the other is being aware of what's going on in the game without structuring it too much.

 

[popsofctown]

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages you can put someone in a tilt lock?
I'm gonna be totally honest, I plan on cheating on my SATs. haha, Sheik Advanced Technical info.
I would memorize the totals if i have to, but I don't think i need to. My plan for when i start attending tourneys is to bring a binder. There's no rules in any tourneys I've heard of for reviewing notes. So I show up to my game, and find out I'm up against Mario. I plan to flip to the Mario section of my binder. And it will tell me what % I tilt lock at.

Do any of you have a general idea of how much damage your opponents need before a sweet spot fair can lead into a ftilt combo effectively?
If i ever get as good as Tristan and you other Sheik pros, and can perform this combo, then i shall put the number in my binder.

Do any of you ever think about how much damage you can deal out before they can hit you and how much damage they will cause when they do? Hm, that's a good idea for my binder, since some characters tend to Nair after they break out of ftilt lock.
I think everyone thinks about this one, dealing the damage and taking it causes Pavlovian responses.

Do any of you even bother looking at what percentage your opponents at before you throw them?
You do different throws at different percents? I guess i'm just thickheaded, you taught me about throwing a while ago but i don't remember percents. I'll try that from now on, pummeling definitely allows time for glancing at percents.

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages can kill with Sheik?
No, that should go in the binder though. I think this information is important, but I'd rather review it just before my matches.

Do any of you ever look at your own percentage before switching to Zelda, thinking about the strongest attack they can possible hit you with and even follow up with after the switch?
I rarely do Zelda switches that aren't 100% safety level. But when i do, i definitely consider this. I often do switches because I can reckon my opponent's location, and that at best he could get a dash attack over to where i am.

 

[SinkingHigher]

Do the rest of the Sheik user even bother looking at percents?
Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages you can put someone in a tilt lock?

No. For me, personally, a good game is one where you never do the same thing twice. Memorizing percentages is just going to make me want to ftilt lock whenever I see that percentage. Memorizing, for me, is not fun. By trial and error I just get a good sense of what's going to happen. If I turn to Zelda too early, so be it. I'll kick their ***** with her instead.

Do any of you have a general idea of how much damage your opponents need before a sweet spot fair can lead into a ftilt combo effectively?

No clue.

Do any of you ever think about how much damage you can deal out before they can hit you and how much damage they will cause when they do?

Yes Subconciously I guess. Never really turns out how I imagined. :/

Do any of you even bother looking at what percentage your opponents at before you throw them?

Before throwing? No. Actually, I never really look. I can tell by how much time is left/knockback-ability what percentage they're on.

Do any of you bother trying to memorizing what percentages can kill with Sheik?

lol. Upwards of 300%? She only has like, 2 KO moves. It's stupid. She really needs a spike to make up for it. At least a moderate spike.

Do any of you ever look at your own percentage before switching to Zelda, thinking about the strongest attack they can possible hit you with and even follow up with after the switch?

Actually, yes, I do. Once Sheik gets over a certain percentage, DI doesn't make much of a difference, but still does with Zelda. Maybe it's her skirt or something, idk.

 

[Soma]

I'm going to be the outlier here, I try to avoid looking at my opponents percentage too much. If I notice, hey I can vanish kill now or whatever, I'll get in the mindset to just try to kill... I just play smarter when I don't really pay much attention to their percent. Anyway I have a general idea based on knockback.