A lot of new people recently...

[Kira-]

mango is just an example, there are other people who do the same thing

it was entirely hypothetical

way to miss the point

 

[The Greater Leon]

im seeing a lot of improvement.

all i have to do now is not get satisfied and keep practicing every day

 

[Lovage]

lol, kira's away from smash for like 3 days and he's already writing page long posts about it
***

 

[Kira-]

at least i know enough about the game to write about it

 

[pockyD]

sounds like a challenge for a smash essay contest

 

[Adam M!]

And it's not that I realized this when I was a noob and that's why I'm good. It's just that through experience, every time I get better I realize that I barely knew anything before. Every step that I improve I look back down and think, "wow, how was I even able to play this game without knowing this piece of information." The way I see the game can and does change every time I learn something new. This game really IS that deep; there's that much to understand in order to be pro.

that's why i keep coming back to this game, no matter how much i want to quit at times. it teaches me life lessons. the day i stop learning stuff about this game that i can take away and put into any aspect of my life is the day i stop playing. that's why to a certain extent i feel sorry for mango.

wow stop riding mango's **** kira.

I hate it when people say this, because if you saw how good mango really was, you would ride his jock too. I have never seen anyone as good at anything than mango is at this game, and i highly doubt i ever will. not lebron james in basketball, not phil ivey in poker, not barry bonds in baseball, nothing.

let's talk smash theory kira, no topic thoroughly entertains me more

 

[Kira-]

sure =) what's our next topic?

hm M2K thinks the tier list goes:
fox/falco
sheik/puff
marth

peach
falcon/ics
doc
ganon

dont really care about the bottom, but go ahead and discuss =P
might be busy for awhile though- but you'll be at dunskies so it'll probably even out


also im pretty sure you can't judge matchups based on everyone playing the matchup correctly. People make mistakes; this is pretty crucial. So yeah if Falco plays perfectly Ganon can never win, but the fact is that nobody will ever play perfectly and Ganon needs way fewer openings to kill than Falco does. So the matchup isn't that bad. I feel the same for Sheik vs ICs

 

[Kouryuu]

Didn't M2K say Sheik is the best character in the game? That's actually pretty different from what he thought the Tier List was not too long ago.

Does he keep changing his mind or something?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Yes. All the time.

 

[Lovage]

my tier list is

fox/falco
sheik

marth
puff
peach

falcon
ic
doc
samus
ganon

 

[San Diego Reaper]

My tier list

marth

.....who else is there again?

 

[ConnorTheKid]

wanna explain why Puff is higher than Peach, Oskie?

 

[Lovage]

cuz thats what i think

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

i don't approve of your tier lists

 

[SuperRad]

nice contribution, alfredo.

 

[Deleted member]

i think puff is better than peach too

-harder to hit (smaller AND aerial mobility)
-best edgeguarding in game
-better at combo
-harder to combo
-rest
-comeback ability (from down a stock, peach doesnt kill quickly) although i guess this may not really be a reason, but more of a result of the above reasons
-better options from the ledge

does value in teams count in this discussion?

am i wrong?

 

[bbb]

well, I hate playing against peach about a million times more than I hate playing against jiggs, but that doesn't really mean anything

 

[NintendoKing]

mango is just an example, there are other people who do the same thing

it was entirely hypothetical

way to miss the point

Trolled.

I hate it when people say this, because if you saw how good mango really was, you would ride his jock too. I have never seen anyone as good at anything than mango is at this game, and i highly doubt i ever will. not lebron james in basketball, not phil ivey in poker, not barry bonds in baseball, nothing.

And trolled.

 

[Adam M!]

no one really cared cause i love hanging on mango's nuts and any excuse to talk about how good mango is good for me

sup mango we need to play i got way better so i' m gonna be even more amazed with how incredible you are

or maybe i'll actually beat you cuz i'm not scared of you no more

kira i'll reply to you later when i'm not basking in awesomeness afterglow from dunskies'

 

[MaNg0]

yeah we should play some time n1ggga

 

[The Greater Leon]

i found a new 805 player today
****
decently knowledgeable and technical falco

all he need is experience

 

[Little England]

I recently realized that there actually are Melee players here in SoCal. All we need to do is foster the ones we have.

 

[Nasty_Nate]

God ****it
Your soiling dudleys image

 

[Little England]

You have no dignity.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

gutter trash

 

[Adam M!]

LMAO connor is hilarious

 

[Little England]

gutter trash

So thaaaaaats what he says

 

[Fabian]

-- Shield grabbing
-- Attacking from the ledge
-- Immediately double-jumping out of hit stun
-- Attacking your opponent from the air
-- Coming down from your second (or even first) jump with an aerial
-- Shielding after you come down from your second (or even first) jump with an aerial (i.e. you forward air with Marth, it slightly misses, and you shield because you expect your opponent to counterattack you)

i do every single one of those things lol except maybe double jump out of hit stun

 

[frotaz37]

I really don't think practice is all it takes. Some people just aren't smart enough~

 

[Nasty_Nate]

So thaaaaaats what he says

omg I didnt know that either

I always assumed it was "Cut the trash!"

Which sounds better and makes way more sense

 

[Lovage]

how the **** does "cut the trash" make more sense than "gutter trash" for english noble dudley

 

[Little England]

I thought he said "Got that trash"...which makes the least sense(actually it's kinda contradictory for Dudley lol).

I really don't think practice is all it takes. Some people just aren't smart enough~

I disagree. I think once all of the fundamentals of the game is mastered it'll then become a game of wits(and most people are smart), but even some of the top players screw up or much less often do not know some basics.

 

[Kira-]

hey i figured out how to play this game the right way

now all i have to do is re-learn what to do in every matchup


but at least i'm on the right track


credit goes to maple and zhu

 

[Nashun]

but even some of the top players ...do not know some basics.

I think that's only in Brawl.

 

[Adam M!]

most people are definitely not smart lol

maybe melee as a tournament game attracts smarter people, but most people are DEFINITELY not smart

 

[Fabian]

I hate it when people say this, because if you saw how good mango really was, you would ride his jock too. I have never seen anyone as good at anything than mango is at this game, and i highly doubt i ever will. not lebron james in basketball, not phil ivey in poker, not barry bonds in baseball, nothing.

****it adam
because of this post
i spent 2hrs on youtube looking at youtube vids of poker
starting with phil ivey
then eventually to gus hansen, daniel negreanu, etc

 

[Adam M!]

high stakes poker with tom durrrr dwan is da best

 

[Little England]

most people are definitely not smart lol

maybe melee as a tournament game attracts smarter people, but most people are DEFINITELY not smart

That's what I meant. lol

 

[Nasty_Nate]

how the **** does "cut the trash" make more sense than "gutter trash" for english noble dudley

you ****in noob. Because he wins the fight and says "Cut the trash" as in, "No *****, cut that **** out, im fukkin dudley, you dont do that to dudley"

Gutter trash would just be name calling, which is beneath a black english noble

 

[ConnorTheKid]

1. 2. The End.