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7 year old girl killed during Mortal Kombat play fight

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http://www.destructoid.com/violence-and-games-the-mortal-kombat-murder-60449.phtml

So, if you are anything like me, the first thing you thought when you read that headline is "Who the hell still plays Mortal Kombat?" A natural reaction, even in the face of such a evocative and depressing news story. But it's not a reaction that most adult Americans will share. Most adult Americans will think "When the hell are they going to ban those terrible things, how many more children must die?" Those terrible things, or course, are not stupid teenagers, or liquor stores that sell to minors. Those terrible things are video games.

The fact that these two minors were drunk was not mentioned in the headline. I'm not saying I think alcohol should be a scapegoat here. Not every drunken teenager commits manslaughter. But the fact that alcohol decreases inhibitions, where Mortal Kombat arguably only affects the human mind in the same ways the average Jean-Claude Van Damme movie does (not much of an effect), it leads me to point the finger at alcohol before anything else.

Even in saying that, I'm dodging the real culprit in this tragedy, and that culprit is of course the 16 year old girl. From the article it is not clear if the male in question had anything to do with the crime. He may become the scapegoat along with video games, or he may be guilty. In one report he was just a "referee" between the older sister and younger sister while they were playing Mortal Kombat. But from an eyewitness report (implying that there were more people with the babysitter and the guy during the assault), he bragged that his hands were "lethal weapons" and that he kicked the 7 year old girl. Can this eyewitness be trusted?
Regardless of if he did or didn't hit the little girl, the 16 year old sister was still the one babysitting her. If my best friend in the whole world, my biggest idol in the entire universe, or even Ron Workman laid one finger on my 7 year old sister, I would not only kick him out of my house immediately, I'd probably call the cops. So whether the male was involved at all, the sister is still the one that I blame. Letting someone beat your little sister to death is the same as doing it yourself.

But who wants to blame a beautiful teenage girl for such a terrible crime? Our society is desperate to hold on to those intra-psychically entrenched schemas, those "black and white" absolute perceptions of our world that are supposed to help us make sense of a reality filled with more horror than we can accept. One of the schemas that many people in our world hold on to is "Pretty teenage girls are good." I have witnessed more blind worship of pretty teenage girls for simply being pretty teenage girls than I have ever witnessed video game induced violence, video game induced seizures, or any video game induced problems of any kind.

Facts like that don't integrate very well with another schema that many adults share. That schema is that video games are the devil. Or more like "Everything that's different than what I grew up with is the devil." That of course includes video games.

So how does our society deal with a news story detailing a pretty teenage girl killing her little sister? My bet is that society will hold tight to the safe and comforting ideas discussed above. It takes a very strong, intelligent, and fair minded person to put aside those comforting but thought distorting perceptions of the world and look at the terrible truth. This newspaper couldn't. It resorted to blaming Mortal Kombat. I couldn't at first. I instinctually blamed alcohol. And the police, well, we'll have to see who they blame.
I'll be watching this story like a hawk to see if either of these kids end up in jail. If the powers that be at Dtoid permit, you can be sure to read more about it from me here on the front page.
There you have it, more idiots letting games control their actions.

I feel sorry for the family because the death of the girl will probably be ignored and the focus will be on the alcohol and game debate.
 

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I heard about this, that is some crazy news. I used to wrestle with my little brother doing WWF moves and what not, but not like that.
 

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yeah, my brother and i did that too.

Anyway, this is the kind of thing that will start to kill off games. But people, as in political people, have to look to see how these types of things occurred. The two babysitters were drunk, and people can hallucinate while drunk, so they might of seen the 7-year old girl as something different. But the fact that they were drunk shouldn't put the blame on the games, but the two minors who decided to have a few drinks and start acting stupid. This is something I believe that politicians don't see when they take the facts of video games = violence.
 

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No, this is natural selection - Evolution in the making.

Stupid people should not be allowed to have kids, and when they do, those kids die. The babysitters are the products of this stupidity in that if they were properly raised, they would not have murdered a child. Alcohol aside, they are still responsible for their actions and they deserve to rot in prison. The only benefit of this little girl dying is that she is no longer the victim of abuse as the article stated she was often bruised and hated to go home. Tragic story.
 

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Actually, all I'm getting out of this is some kids were drunk and stupid and violent. Now they want to try and dump the blame on a common video game scapegoat. Also, I don't believe alcohol can impair judgment to that extreme, they must've been twisted anyway.
 

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imo, people who blame video games for violent crimes are ****ing stupid as hell and need to learn to blame other things and stop being closed-minded, bigoted against everything they didn't have, pieces of ****.
 

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Seriously, wtf.
I don't even know what to say, because what needs to be done to them wont be enough to make up for what that little girl had to go through. It is truly tragic, and I'm willing to bet that the real problem wont be addressed at all. I'm sure Midway will be dealing will a lot in the near future.
The family has my sympathies.
 

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Video games will probably take the blame for this in the end.Which is sad.Terrible tragedy,poor family.Those guys must have been complete *******.Jail is the only place for them.F****rs
 

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*facepalm*...if what I hear about Hillary Clinton is true, we're screwed...*puts on Obama campaign sticker*...

Seriously, why is it that video games take the blame when a drunken ***** kills her sister? Imo, the alcohol is to blame...had she been sober, we wouldn't be having this discussion (though that could be debated)...
 

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And all you people aren't biased at all, considering that this is a video game forum.

But otherwise I have to agree, not because I am a video gamer, but because I am a libertarian at heart. :grin:
 

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imo, people who blame video games for violent crimes are ****ing stupid as hell and need to learn to blame other things and stop being closed-minded, bigoted against everything they didn't have, pieces of ****.
The blame game does not need to played at all.
People need to take responsibility for their actions.

Try them as adults and throw these mother ****ers in jail.
 

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What a sad story :( I can understand how the writer feels though. I mean, getting drunk and having someone beat your sister? Then again, we can only imagine how that girl must feel after realizing everything that's happened.

I wouldn't be surpised if video games will be labeled the main cause in the end, especially when you consider what was said above regarding a "pretty teenage girl". As video games grow more and more popular, more and more people who are against them keep trying to find new ways to blame videogames for wrong-doings and misfortunes. This story will just add on to their unnecessary cause.

wow @ people these days, just wow.
 

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I have to say that if they had called the game, cowboys or Indians or smack down or by some other name, its sad that something like this happens. I believe that video games are once again going to be scapegoated by the media for the stupidly of two teenagers.
 

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I have to say I am a little embarrased to admit that the first thought in my head upon seeing the topic title was "FINISH HER!!"

But seriously, this is tragic, but the context of the situation (i.e. the games and alcohol) matters little. In the end, the simple fact is that it's stupid people doing stupid things, something that always has and always will happen, and nothing is ever going to change that.
 

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kudos to the most hardcore girl

I wish I go in a Mortal Kombat themed death, how badass
:o...dude, that's not funny...is this all you have to say after a little girl is killed? A child that could have lived a fulfilling and happy life, only to be cut short by a drunken babysitter? I'm disgusted...
 

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I'm glad some of you guys are taking the light hearted approach to this...
Why shouldn't they? What will grieving for a person you don't know do for her? Nothing. I hate how people who never speak to someone, then they die and everyone mourns. Same with stars. People die, the end. At least they find humor in all things. Her death is tragic, but it was inevitable reading that article.
 

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Videogames aren't the problem.

You can find any number of scapegoats, but that doesn't change the fact that people are responsible for what they do.
 

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You can find any number of scapegoats, but that doesn't change the fact that people are responsible for what they do.
Thank You! It is a personal responsibility and I hate it when everyone tries to blame media or upbringing or their own genetics for their deficiencies. To say I murdered them because [insert excuse] is lame on so many levels.
 

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yeah one time i was roleplaying mortal kombat with my brother, and i was stryker and i accidentily shot him in the head and killed him. the game and real life are so much different it seems.
 

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yeah one time i was roleplaying mortal kombat with my brother, and i was stryker and i accidentily shot him in the head and killed him. the game and real life are so much different it seems.
:o...Zapdos, I apologize...apparently your joke isn't the most tasteless one...

Dude, that's worse than what Zapdos said...I understand that people need to be lighthearted about this, but this borders on insensitive...I can understand what Zapdos said...in retrospect, it was a little funny...but THIS...*sigh*
 

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Why shouldn't they? What will grieving for a person you don't know do for her? Nothing. I hate how people who never speak to someone, then they die and everyone mourns. Same with stars. People die, the end. At least they find humor in all things. Her death is tragic, but it was inevitable reading that article.
I never said anything was wrong with it. I can find the humor in it too, but it seemed like it didn't phase them in the least. It's in a case like this that even I stop the jokes and can be a little serious.
 

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I never said anything was wrong with it. I can find the humor in it too, but it seemed like it didn't phase them in the least. It's in a case like this that even I stop the jokes and can be a little serious.
QFT!! Jokes are acceptable to some extent, since they allieviate the grief, but when it gets to Mario27 and Forward's extreme, it kinda pushes the limit, y'know...
 

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So it's ok to make light of the term "****" as your signature does, but not ok to joke about someone they don't know dying. Ok, just wanted to clear that up. Go google "hypocrite" sometime.
 

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So it's ok to make light of the term "****" as your signature does, but not ok to joke about someone they don't know dying. Ok, just wanted to clear that up. Go google "hypocrite" sometime.
I can't tell if you're talking to me or Elysium, so I'll proceed to defend myself as if it were directed at me...

I did say that to some extent, joking about it is fine, and can even help, but when someone says "i accidentily shot him in the head and killed him" and thinks it's funny, you have to realize that there's a limit...I'll admit, I'm a little biased because death is a touchy subject for me...

As for the **** Staff, you have to realize that the term has become fairly common web-slang...most people are indifferent to it, as opposed to insensitive jokes about death...I would much rather hear about the **** Staff than read a bunch of people acting insensitively towards stories of a little girl getting killed...but that's just me...
 

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I can't tell if you're talking to me or Elysium, so I'll proceed to defend myself as if it were directed at me...

I did say that to some extent, joking about it is fine, and can even help, but when someone says "i accidentily shot him in the head and killed him" and thinks it's funny, you have to realize that there's a limit...I'll admit, I'm a little biased because death is a touchy subject for me...

As for the **** Staff, you have to realize that the term has become fairly common web-slang...most people are indifferent to it, as opposed to insensitive jokes about death...I would much rather hear about the **** Staff than read a bunch of people acting insensitively towards stories of a little girl getting killed...but that's just me...
Right because women don't matter, but little girls do? Your logic is appalling.
 

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Insensitive jokes about **** are okay, but insensitive jokes about death aren't?


You, sir, are a hypocrite.
 

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Now hold on...I'm not the one who came up with the name...I'm just a member...if y'all are that pissed, take it up with Elysium, not me...I will admit, our club name is somewhat crude, but once again, it's common web-slang...and I'm not the one who made it that way...and have you forgotten the fact that a crew by the name of Death by **** is worshipped in SoCal? Perhaps you should take that into consideration...
 

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Doesn't change the fact that it's also tasteless and insensitive.


Have I forgotten what?
I don't pay attention to those things.
If you're crude enough to think it's funny or clever to put something like "Death by ****" as a crew name, I'm going to ignore that you exist.





The point I'm making here is you really don't have a right to chastise others for making 'insensitive jokes' when you belong to a crew that goes by such a vulgar, insensitive name, Mr. **** Staff.
 

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Now hold on...I'm not the one who came up with the name...I'm just a member...if y'all are that pissed, take it up with Elysium, not me...I will admit, our club name is somewhat crude, but once again, it's common web-slang...and I'm not the one who made it that way...and have you forgotten the fact that a crew by the name of Death by **** is worshipped in SoCal? Perhaps you should take that into consideration...
So it's ok because you are a member? So if you were in the KKK, but not an active member, that's ok? Also, don't shift the blame just because we point out your insensitive joke. Take responsibility for it and don't get on anyone else's case on **** that you are apart of.
 

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Well, I think I've been misunderstood.
When did I say jokes weren't ok? All I said was that i was glad some were taking a light hearted approach to this and I get called a hypocrite? Did I make it seem that insensitive jokes were that bad? I said that it seemed like something like this didn't phase them.
And in regards to The **** Staff, as Cinder said it's internet slang and thats the definition that it uses. Taking things in context might help. Thats like going to anyone who said "*****" instead of "owned" and accusing them of not caring about ***** and women in general. I didn't joke about this because it's a little issue of respect. I didn't know the family, but it's still tragic and they do have my sympathies. If it was some story about a girl getting *****, I sure as hell wouldn't come here waving my sig around because in that situation it's not the most respectful thing to do.

But lets be honest here. No matter what I said to try and defend myself, it would get me called a hypocrite no matter what. So how about we end it at this and move on?
 

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Now hold on...I'm not the one who came up with the name...I'm just a member...if y'all are that pissed, take it up with Elysium, not me...I will admit, our club name is somewhat crude, but once again, it's common web-slang...and I'm not the one who made it that way...and have you forgotten the fact that a crew by the name of Death by **** is worshipped in SoCal? Perhaps you should take that into consideration...
I don't really have much interest in the argument going around here, but I must say I always did love this logic. "It's okay if we do it because they did it first! Blame them!"
 

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Well, I think I've been misunderstood.
When did I say jokes weren't ok? All I said was that i was glad some were taking a light hearted approach to this and I get called a hypocrite? Did I make it seem that insensitive jokes were that bad? I said that it seemed like something like this didn't phase them.
And in regards to The **** Staff, as Cinder said it's internet slang and thats the definition that it uses. Taking things in context might help. Thats like going to anyone who said "*****" instead of "owned" and accusing them of not caring about ***** and women in general. I didn't joke about this because it's a little issue of respect. I didn't know the family, but it's still tragic and they do have my sympathies. If it was some story about a girl getting *****, I sure as hell wouldn't come here waving my sig around because in that situation it's not the most respectful thing to do.

But lets be honest here. No matter what I said to try and defend myself, it would get me called a hypocrite no matter what. So how about we end it at this and move on?


I wasn't talking to you. :p
lol
 
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