Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

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Here's the Umebura Smash 4 Final entry list.

This is gonna be a treat! This, and Ultimate a week (I think?) later!
Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. [Edit: This is actually the Sumabato Smash 4 Finals, so whoops] Here are the results:

1st: Zackray:4corrin::4bayonetta2::4marth:
2nd: HIKARU:4dk::4sheik:
3rd: Some:4greninja:
4th: KEN:4sonic:
5th: Fuji:4cloud2:
5th: Atelier:rosalina:
7th: Shuton:4olimar:
7th: Shogun:4fox:
9th: Mao:4cloud2:
9th: takera:4ryu:
9th: DIO:4ryu:
9th: Parme:4samus:
13th: Masashi:4cloud2:
13th: Kishiru:4pikachu:
13th: Jan:rosalina::4ryu:
13th: komorikiri:4cloud2::4corrinf:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: Gackt:4ness:
17th: zaki:4dedede:
25th: Lea:4greninja:
25th: Kie:4peach:
25th: Eim:4sheik:
25th: Raito:4duckhunt:
33rd: Yuzu:rosalina:
33rd: Agehasama:4lucas:
33rd: Tea:4pacman:
33rd: Earth:4pit::4corrin:
33rd: kept:4villager:
33rd: Gomamugitya:4lucario:
65th: Compact:4mewtwo:



Might as well post the results for Canada Cup 2018:
1st: SDX:4mewtwo:
2nd: ANTi:4mario:
3rd: Mr.R:4sheik:
4th: Mr E:4lucina:
5th: Mistake:4bayonetta2:
5th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
7th: Ally:4mario:
7th: THUNDER:4ryu:
9th: Larry Lurr:4fox:
9th: Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
9th: Jw:4greninja:
9th: Jayy:4bayonetta:
13th: Spencer:4diddy:
13th: Pokecheese:4rob:
13th: Poke:4luigi:
13th: iModerz:4fox:
17th: Lynx:4sheik:
17th: Venom:4ryu:
17th: Xyro:4fox:
17th: San:4myfriends:
17th: Fwed:4fox:
17th: Rest Now:4ness:
17th: iStudying:4greninja:
17th: Smokk:4diddy:
 
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Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. Here are the results:

1st: Zackray:4corrin::4bayonetta2::4marth:
2nd: HIKARU:4dk::4sheik:
3rd: Some:4greninja:
4th: KEN:4sonic:
5th: Fuji:4cloud2:
5th: Atelier:rosalina:
7th: Shuton:4olimar:
7th: Shogun:4fox:
9th: Mao:4cloud2:
9th: takera:4ryu:
9th: DIO:4ryu:
9th: Parme:4samus:
13th: Masashi:4cloud2:
13th: Kishiru:4pikachu:
13th: Jan:rosalina::4ryu:
13th: komorikiri:4cloud2::4corrinf:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: Gackt:4ness:
17th: zaki:4dedede:
25th: Lea:4greninja:
25th: Kie:4peach:
25th: Eim:4sheik:
25th: Raito:4duckhunt:
33rd: Yuzu:rosalina:
33rd: Agehasama:4lucas:
33rd: Tea:4pacman:
33rd: Earth:4pit::4corrin:
33rd: kept:4villager:
33rd: Gomamugitya:4lucario:
65th: Compact:4mewtwo:



Might as well post the results for Canada Cup 2018:
1st: SDX:4mewtwo:
2nd: ANTi:4mario:
3rd: Mr.R:4sheik:
4th: Mr E:4lucina:
5th: Mistake:4bayonetta2:
5th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
7th: Ally:4mario:
7th: THUNDER:4ryu:
9th: Larry Lurr:4fox:
9th: Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
9th: Jw:4greninja:
9th: Jayy:4bayonetta:
13th: Spencer:4diddy:
13th: Pokecheese:4rob:
13th: Poke:4luigi:
13th: iModerz:4fox:
17th: Lynx:4sheik:
17th: Venom:4ryu:
17th: Xyro:4fox:
17th: San:4myfriends:
17th: Fwed:4fox:
17th: Rest Now:4ness:
17th: iStudying:4greninja:
17th: Smokk:4diddy:
That was actually the Sumabato finals. The Umebura finals shouldn't start still until the end of first week of the release date. Juddy has the list for the Umebura event himself, if you want to check.

Either way, this one is very stacked, and definitely will be fun to watch.
 
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Is SDX the best mewtwo as of nowadays? Or is Wadi still holding that position?
The tournament wasn't too stacked. WaDi hasn't really participated in much events (that isn't a MD/VA local) lately, so it is hard to judge.

SDX is definitely among the top Mewtwo players though.
 

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The tournament wasn't too stacked. WaDi hasn't really participated in much events (that isn't a MD/VA local) lately, so it is hard to judge.

SDX is definitely among the top Mewtwo players though.
well hey I mean at least Mewtwo actually won something again.
 
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well hey I mean at least Mewtwo actually won something again.
That comment actually made me curious: how many majors did a character win this year? So I did a calculation on this.

Supermajors (PGR v5 A and A+ tiered tournaments; 2018 Q3 A and S tiered tournaments)
:4cloud2: - 7
Genesis 5 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Switchfest (MkLeo (Co-Main))
GOML 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
MomoCon 2018 (Tweek (Co-Main))
2GG: Hyrule Saga (Tweek (Co-Main)) *A+*
CEO 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *A+*
Super Smash Con 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *S*
:4marth: - 5
Genesis 5 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Switchfest (MkLeo (Co-Main))
GOML 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
CEO 2018 (Co-Main)) *A+*
Super Smash Con 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *S*
:4bayonetta: - 4
MomoCon 2018 (Tweek (Co-Main))
2GG: Hyrule Saga (Tweek (Co-Main)) *A+*
EVO 2018 (Lima) *S*
Shine 2018 (Salem)
:rosalina: - 2
Frostbite 2018 (Dabuz)
Smash Sounds (Dabuz)
:4zss: - 1
SML: Battle for Vegas (Nairo)
:4sheik: - 1
Smash'N'Splash 4 (VoiD)
:4corrinf: - 1
The Big House 8 (Cosmos)

Majors/Semi-majors (PGR v5 B tiered tournaments) *Note: B tiered events in 2018 Q3 aren't very stacked.
:4zss: - 4

Niconico Tokaigi 2018 (Nairo)

Collision XV (Nairo)

Umebura 32 (Choco)
:4cloud2: - 2
EVO Japan 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Glitch 4 (Tweek *Note: Used various characters, but Cloud is the main one.)
:4marth: - 1
EVO Japan 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
:4bayonetta: - 1
EGLX 2018 (Tweek)
:4sonic: - 1
Umebura T.A.T. (KEN)

Total Amount
:4cloud2: - 9 *Note: The majority, in not all of them, has no solo Cloud.
:4marth: - 6 *Note: All of them is through MkLeo's antics.
:4bayonetta: - 5 *Note: Only 2 (3 if EGLX is counted) is done by solo Bayonetta, and both is at Q3 2018 (less stacked events than in PGR v5).
:4zss: - 5 *Note: All of them are solo, but four of them is through the second category.
:rosalina: - 2
:4sheik: - 1 *Note: The tournament won by VoiD is more stacked that the one won by Cosmos.
:4corrinf: - 1
:4sonic: - 1 *Note: Only in the second category.
 
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Never heard of that. Plus aren't you assuming things?

BTW, anything change during my long absence?
Not too much. Everyone is gearing up for Ultimate, so the tournaments that would normally be stacked got shafted in terms of top player representation. I will provide the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12 soon (if someone could reply to this :p).

ZeRo did notably announce that he will be competing in Smash Ultimate tournaments under Tempo Storm now. Here is a link to the full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIow4MVJ1dQ
 
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Since this thread is essentially dead...
I've been in the Ultimate General Discussion thread waiting for new info/chars to be revealed. Now that we know the whole cast, I only care about discussing characters in the game (while they care about DLC speculation now, which is why I left-the only reason I tolerated that thread in the first place is because it was the most bustling Ultimate thread). Unfortunately, we're in that weird phase where actual character discussion is sparce and the Ultimate Discords aren't set up yet. So now I'm in a bind where I want to discuss Smash Ultimate in-depth character analysis and conpetitive impressions...but there's nowhere to really do it

Edit: LOL as soon as I say it the Ultimate discords started appearing in Smashcords. Happy Ultimate-ing everyone, and see you in the next Ultimate Competitive subforum
 
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Unfortunately, we're in that weird phase where actual character discussion is sparce and the Ultimate Discords aren't set up yet. So now I'm in a bind where I want to discuss Smash Ultimate in-depth character analysis and conpetitive impressions...but there's nowhere to really do it
There are some Ultimate Discords up for specific characters and if not the Smash 4 character Discord will likely have one or more Ultimate channels, so Discord is pretty good for Ultimate discussions.
 
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Yay! Someone replayed... I honestly miss the days when this tread was active. :(
Anyways, here are the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12.

GTX 2018

1st: Lui$:4mario:
2nd: Pandarian:4metaknight:
3rd: Elegant:4luigi:
4th: Stroder:4greninja::4fox::4drmario::4lucina:
5th: Charlie:4fox::4bayonetta2:
5th: Diablo:4ryu:
7th: UtopianRay:rosalina:
7th: Captain L:4pikachu:
9th: Keitaro:4falco:
9th: Shoe:4zss:
9th: Banana Boy:4yoshi:
9th: PiXL:4ryu:
Notable Players out Earlier:
13th: VaLoR:4sonic:
13th: S2H:4metaknight:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:



Midwest Mayhem 12

1st: Marss:4zss:
2nd: SDX:4mewtwo:
3rd: Maister:4gaw:
4th: Lima:4bayonetta2:
5th: Dabuz:rosalina::4olimar:
5th: tyroy:4bayonetta:
7th: yeti:4tlink::4megaman:
7th: Geist:4bayonetta:
9th: Seth:4yoshi:
9th: BestNess:4ness:
9th: WelfarePickles:4mario:
9th: Ned:4cloud2:
13th: ATATA:4ness:
13th: sinnyboo242:4sheik:
13th: Daybreak:4fox::4falco::4cloud:
13th: Spencer:4ness:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: big_mak:4sheik:
17th: SNooFL:4fox:
33rd: Comet:4fox:
 
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Yay! Someone replayed... I honestly miss the days when this tread was active. :(
Anyways, here are the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12.

GTX 2018

1st: Lui$:4mario:
2nd: Pandarian:4metaknight:
3rd: Elegant:4luigi:
4th: Stroder:4greninja::4fox::4drmario::4lucina:
5th: Charlie:4fox::4bayonetta2:
5th: Diablo:4ryu:
7th: UtopianRay:rosalina:
7th: Captain L:4pikachu:
9th: Keitaro:4falco:
9th: Shoe:4zss:
9th: Banana Boy:4yoshi:
9th: PiXL:4ryu:
Notable Players out Earlier:
13th: VaLoR:4sonic:
13th: S2H:4metaknight:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:



Midwest Mayhem 12

1st: Marss:4zss:
2nd: SDX:4mewtwo:
3rd: Maister:4gaw:
4th: Lima:4bayonetta2:
5th: Dabuz:rosalina::4olimar:
5th: tyroy:4bayonetta:
7th: yeti:4tlink::4megaman:
7th: Geist:4bayonetta:
9th: Seth:4yoshi:
9th: BestNess:4ness:
9th: WelfarePickles:4mario:
9th: Ned:4cloud2:
13th: ATATA:4ness:
13th: sinnyboo242:4sheik:
13th: Daybreak:4fox::4falco::4cloud:
13th: Spencer:4ness:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: big_mak:4sheik:
17th: SNooFL:4fox:
33rd: Comet:4fox:
Guess us Yoshi players can have a last laugh before Ultimate!
 
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Came here to wish SSB4 (Wii U, specifically) a happy birthday, most sincerely, before it was too late.
Yeah. I cannot believe it is finally over. I feel like it is going out too soon.

Here are the results for DreamHack Atlanta 2018 (the final tournament for the PGR top 100):
1st: Tweek:4cloud2:
2nd: Dabuz:rosalina:
3rd: VoiD:4sheik::4fox:
4th: Wrath:4sonic::4bayonetta2:
5th: ESAM:4pikachu:
5th: Samsora:4peach:
7th: Dark Wizzy:4mario:
7th: Salem:4bayonetta:
9th: Karna:4sheik:
9th: Fatality:4falcon:
9th: CaptainZack:4bayonetta2::4peach:
9th: dekillsage:4fox:
13th: Pandarian:4metaknight:
13th: Salt One:4cloud2:
13th: Captain L:4pikachu:
13th: Donquavious:4greninja:

Notable Players Out Earlier:
17th: Rideae:4pikachu:
17th: Sonido:4sonic:
17th: Locus:4bayonetta2::4ryu:
17th: Eldin:rosalina:
17th: RFang:4bayonetta::rosalina:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:
25th: MuteAce:4peach:
25th: Blade:4bayonetta::4sheik:
25th: Sandstorm:4ryu:
25th: Peabnut:4megaman:
25th: 8BitMan:4cloud::4rob: (Never knew he had a Cloud)
33rd: Wonderbread:4littlemac:
33rd: Ryo:4myfriends:
33rd: saj:4bayonetta2::4peach:



I am still willing for a final SSB4 tier list to be released. The current one released almost a year ago feels pretty outdated to me.
 
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Yeah. I cannot believe it is finally over. I feel like it is going out too soon.

Here are the results for DreamHack Atlanta 2018 (the final tournament for the PGR top 100):
1st: Tweek:4cloud2:
2nd: Dabuz:rosalina:
3rd: VoiD:4sheik::4fox:
4th: Wrath:4sonic::4bayonetta2:
5th: ESAM:4pikachu:
5th: Samsora:4peach:
7th: Dark Wizzy:4mario:
7th: Salem:4bayonetta:
9th: Karna:4sheik:
9th: Fatality:4falcon:
9th: CaptainZack:4bayonetta2::4peach:
9th: dekillsage:4fox:
13th: Pandarian:4metaknight:
13th: Salt One:4cloud2:
13th: Captain L:4pikachu:
13th: Donquavious:4greninja:

Notable Players Out Earlier:
17th: Rideae:4pikachu:
17th: Sonido:4sonic:
17th: Locus:4bayonetta2::4ryu:
17th: Eldin:rosalina:
17th: RFang:4bayonetta::rosalina:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:
25th: MuteAce:4peach:
25th: Blade:4bayonetta::4sheik:
25th: Sandstorm:4ryu:
25th: Peabnut:4megaman:
25th: 8BitMan:4cloud::4rob: (Never knew he had a Cloud)
33rd: Wonderbread:4littlemac:
33rd: Ryo:4myfriends:
33rd: saj:4bayonetta2::4peach:



I am still willing for a final SSB4 tier list to be released. The current one released almost a year ago feels pretty outdated to me.
Any changes you think would take place?
 

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I am still willing for a final SSB4 tier list to be released. The current one released almost a year ago feels pretty outdated to me.
I think the current tier list is still very accurate. With the exception of Lucario who might be too high because of Tsu's upset, pretty much every character seems to be at the right place.
 
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Any changes you think would take place?
Characters like Mega Man, Ness, Wario, Mr. Game & Watch, Ike, Samus, and Pac-Man are loo low in the list. I also feel that Corrin and Duck Hunt is ready to move up to the next tier, to A and C tier, respectively.

Characters like Lucario, Bowser, Lucas, the Pits, and Robin is too high on the tier list. I feel like about half of the E tier should be considered low tier (from Charizard to Palutena). Finally, I think Sheik and Rosalina has surpassed Diddy Kong on the list.

I feel as if the metagame has changed around enough to warrant another list. I want to show my personal tier list to display where I think the characters are now, but obviously I cannot in this thread. So... that is what I have to say.

Edit: Also, there is the fact that the Miis still not in the tier list, despite showing some signs of tournament success without customs.
 
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ESAM did a thing.

Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.

It does makes me fascinated on how different each of the top player's opinions are.
 
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Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.
1111 Gunner is known to be somewhat decent, atd 1111 Swordfighter was at least better than 1111 Brawler, and with some results from Trela. It's really hard to place them anyway.

I wonder where he'll place Corrin this time, still outside of top 15, or inside top 15?
 

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Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.

It does makes me fascinated on how different each of the top player's opinions are.
If you know anything about Mii Swordfighter, it's extremely clear he's biased toward the character. For example, he says that Ike isn't scary to shield against from 80%-160% because Dthrow kills so late (Despite Ike having a ****ing throw confirm that he somehow just forgot to mention), and then somehow fails to mention the fact that Swordfighter doesn't even have a killthrow. Swordfighter does not belong at the top of low-tier; he's top of bottom tier at best.

I can at least see his reasoning for Mii Gunner being that high up, but he is definitely overrating her neutral. He also fails to mention that she probably has the worst average damage output per neutral win of any character in the game; she is little miss 4% and a neutral reset.

He also says that Roy's main problem is that his optimal range is close to his body which is a meme that needs to die. His main problem is being a character who wants to play grounded in Smash 4 and doesn't have a broken-*** burst option. He also said that Roy doesn't have a lot of throw combos, which is blatantly untrue. He did mention that Roy's initial dash is bad, though, which is something very often glossed over.

Also, the Pits' main problem is not a lack of standout characteristics. He has **** damage, **** kill power, an exploitable recovery, and bad hitboxes. I agree with ESAM's placement here, but his reasoning is ****ed.

There are some other dumb things he said (Robin's non-book projectiles aren't that good in neutral), but that's my main issues so far.

Edit: Here's the other half

 
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Corrin #13, I'm fine with that, seems fairly accurate to me. Seems the whole "Corrin is mid tier because of lack of results" has died now. I remember the previous 4BR tier list, people really questioned Corrin's high placement, but these days people seem fine with Corrin around #11-15.

(She might be mid tier in Ultimate though, those nerfs really hurt her.)
 

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fam, people going "corrin is mid because no results" died quite a while ago

nevermind that when the previous list came out it was a completely valid argument at that time, but that doesn't matter now
 
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Corrin #13, I'm fine with that, seems fairly accurate to me. Seems the whole "Corrin is mid tier because of lack of results" has died now. I remember the previous 4BR tier list, people really questioned Corrin's high placement, but these days people seem fine with Corrin around #11-15.

(She might be mid tier in Ultimate though, those nerfs really hurt her.)
I think the main reason why people thought Corrin is mid tier, is because he is constantly labeled as a "mid tier character with top tier moves", pointing out his subpar movement speed on the ground. The main reason why people thought 13th was too high for Corrin when the third official tier list came out, is because Corrin really didn't have too much results, especially in comparison to other characters who was in B tier at the time.

However, between that time and the fourth (current) tier list, Corrin mains like Cosmos did then obtain the results needed to prove that Corrin deserves that position, which is why Corrin was ranked 13th in the fourth tier list as well. Since then, Corrin's results did continue to blossom thanks to Cosmos, which pretty much put the nail in the coffin on the "Corrin is a mid tier character" claims. Nothing more than a distant memory.
 
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fam, people going "corrin is mid because no results" died quite a while ago
Yeah, but people kept pushing the narrative on Reddit and Smashboard community tier lists, so.

nevermind that when the previous list came out it was a completely valid argument at that time, but that doesn't matter now
I argued that once Cosmos got to travel Corrin would get more results. That worked out pretty well, eh? So Corrin (as well as Lucina) are good examples why we shouldn't focus too much on results.

I think the main reason why people thought Corrin is mid tier, is because he is constantly labeled as a "mid tier character with top tier moves", pointing out his subpar movement speed on the ground. The main reason why people thought 13th was too high for Corrin when the third official tier list came out, is because Corrin really didn't have too much results, especially in comparison to other characters who was in B tier at the time.
This may be true, and I suppose we should try to learn from it for Ultimate (then again, there are characters who people thought had "potential" that never really showed it, like Yoshi).
 

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All I can do is really laugh that ESAM thinks that Samus is better than Greninja.

It seems like smash 4 will die without anyone understanding why Gren is good. Kinda lame, but that's the only way it was going to end.

:150:
 

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All I can do is really laugh that ESAM thinks that Samus is better than Greninja.

It seems like smash 4 will die without anyone understanding why Gren is good. Kinda lame, but that's the only way it was going to end.

:150:
He really thinks that, huh? We'll have to come back from this...

If only more top Greninjas could actually travel to majors, because a lot of good Greninjas, excluding Venia, Donquavious and any other top US Gren, just don't have the opportunity to.

Then again, opinions like that don't make sense anyway.
 
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All I can do is really laugh that ESAM thinks that Samus is better than Greninja.
It is mostly because he (and Salem I might also add,) believes in Samus' potential, which is why he put Samus so high.

He really thinks that, huh? We'll have to come back from this...

If only more top Greninjas could actually travel to majors, because a lot of good Greninjas, excluding Venia, Donquavious and any other top US Gren, just don't have the opportunity to.

Then again, opinions like that don't make sense anyway.
Hold on. You are in the rankings team?!? :crazy:
Congratulations! When did that happen?
 

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It is mostly because he (and Salem I might also add,) believes in Samus' potential, which is why he put Samus so high.


Hold on. You are in the rankings team?!? :crazy:
Congratulations! When did that happen?
Yesterday, so you're not far behind at all.

...and Umebura Smash 4 Final is tonight! Less than 2 hours to go!

 
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The PGR top 100 has finally arrived with the first set of rankings. We have #76-100.

76th: Konga:4dk:
77th: Ryo:4myfriends:
78th: Atelier:rosalina:
79th: Captain L:4pikachu:
80th: Day:4lucario:
81st: Maister:4gaw:
82nd: Shogun:4fox:
83rd: Shaky:4ness:
84th: Kome:4shulk:
85th: Sinji:4pacman:
86th: Ryuga:4corrinf::4myfriends:
87th: Rags:4metaknight:
88th: Zackray:4corrin::4bayonetta2:
89th: Ixis:4sonic:
90th: Masashi:4cloud2:
91st: Pugwest:4marth:
92nd: Xzax:4fox:
93rd: Kuwa:4ryu:
94th: Umeki:4peach:
95th: Dark Wizzy:4mario:
96th: DSS:4metaknight:
97th: Kuro:4fox:
98th: Eon:4fox:
99th: Eim:4sheik:
100th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
 

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Next PGR placings:

51. ScAtt :4megaman:
52. Rich Brown :4mewtwo:
53. dyr :4diddy:
54. Shoyo James :4luigi::4diddy:
55. Tyroy :4bayonetta:
56. FOW :4ness:
57. Ron (!!!) :4mario::4luigi::4yoshi:
58. Taiheita (!!!) :4lucas:
59. Wrath :4sonic::4bayonetta2:
60. Pink Fresh :4bayonetta2:
61. Zenyou :4mario:
62. K9sbruce (after Zenyou, LOL) :4sheik::4diddy:
63. Etsuji (Tsuji/Edge) (!!!) :4diddy:
64. Tyrant :4metaknight:
65. Trela :4ryu:
66. RAIN (!!!) :4bayonetta2::4cloud2:
67. Charlie :4fox::4sheik::4bayonetta2:
68. Rizeasu (!!!) :substitute:
69. Mew2King :4cloud2:
70. Glutonny :4wario2:
71. ikep (!!!) :4bayonetta2: (:4miigun:)
72. Sigma (!!!!!) :4tlink:
73. False :4marth::4dk:
74. Javi :4sheik::4cloud:
75. SH (!!!!!) :4fox:

You all don't know how long SH has been gone from the Japanese scene! Good to see him somewhere. My Japanese bias is showing, but I have to give credit where it's due. T, HIKARU and Earth for top 50 maybe?
 
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Next PGR placings:

51. ScAtt :4megaman:
52. Rich Brown :4mewtwo:
53. dyr :4diddy:
54. Shoyo James :4luigi::4diddy:
55. Tyroy :4bayonetta:
56. FOW :4ness:
57. Ron (!!!) :4mario::4luigi::4yoshi:
58. Taiheita (!!!) :4lucas:
59. Wrath :4sonic::4bayonetta2:
60. Pink Fresh :4bayonetta2:
61. Zenyou :4mario:
62. K9sbruce (after Zenyou, LOL) :4sheik::4diddy:
63. Etsuji (Tsuji/Edge) (!!!) :4diddy:
64. Tyrant :4metaknight:
65. Trela :4ryu:
66. RAIN :4bayonetta2::4cloud2:
67. Charlie :4fox::4sheik::4bayonetta2:
68. Rizeasu (!!!) :substitute:
69. Mew2King :4cloud2:
70. Glutonny :4wario2:
71. ikep (!!!) :4bayonetta2: (:4miigun:)
72. Sigma (!!!!!) :4tlink:
73. False :4marth::4dk:
74. Javi :4sheik::4cloud:
75. SH (!!!!!) :4fox:

You all don't know how long SH has been gone from the Japanese scene! Good to see him somewhere. My Japanese bias is showing, but I have to give credit where it's due. T, HIKARU and Earth for top 50 maybe?
The rankings are starting to look crazy. I do believe that T, HIKARU, and especially Earth will be in top 50.

A few things to note so far: I am happy that Glutonny got a very solid ranking on the PGR for being in a region where it is usually off the PGR radar. These Japanese players are showing up hard. Here are a few surprising placings:
  • Mew2King: I actually thought he was going to be ranked higher, due to his great results during the times where he played SSB4 seriously. Nevertheless, I am glad that he got the rankings (though he is ranked 69 at the same time, so no XD).
  • Wrath: Another player that I thought would be ranked higher, mostly due to his excellent results in 2018 and his history prior to that. Kudos to him though.
  • SH: Congrats on him reaching the PGR top 100. I know about his inactivity for a long time, but his gathered results feels a little underwhelming for his ranking, especially in comparison to other heavy hitters like Konga.
  • Taiheita: It is not surprising that he made it to the top 100, but I was surprised that he is ranked that high in the list. His results, although good and reflects being in the top 100, doesn't feel as impressive as other players like Pink Fresh, Wrath, Mew2King, and Zenyou. Considering that his only appearance in the PGR is 49th at v2, kind of enhanced that surprise.
  • Ron: Similar reasons to Taiheita, but do to a lesser extent due to possessing more consistent results overall throughout his career.
  • Trela: Considering that it is the top 100 of all time, I would have expected him to reach the top 50. Him not reaching that mark is kind of surprising due to that reason. Nevertheless, nice job to him.
 
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