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Yeti's Tink gameplay was phenomenal.2 words from TBH8: YeTi
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Yeti's Tink gameplay was phenomenal.2 words from TBH8: YeTi
Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. [Edit: This is actually the Sumabato Smash 4 Finals, so whoops] Here are the results:Here's the Umebura Smash 4 Final entry list.
This is gonna be a treat! This, and Ultimate a week (I think?) later!
That was actually the Sumabato finals. The Umebura finals shouldn't start still until the end of first week of the release date. Juddy has the list for the Umebura event himself, if you want to check.Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. Here are the results:
1st: Zackray
2nd: HIKARU
3rd: Some
4th: KEN
5th: Fuji
5th: Atelier
7th: Shuton
7th: Shogun
9th: Mao
9th: takera
9th: DIO
9th: Parme
13th: Masashi
13th: Kishiru
13th: Jan
13th: komorikiri
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: Gackt
17th: zaki
25th: Lea
25th: Kie
25th: Eim
25th: Raito
33rd: Yuzu
33rd: Agehasama
33rd: Tea
33rd: Earth
33rd: kept
33rd: Gomamugitya
65th: Compact
Might as well post the results for Canada Cup 2018:
1st: SDX
2nd: ANTi
3rd: Mr.R
4th: Mr E
5th: Mistake
5th: SuperGirlKels
7th: Ally
7th: THUNDER
9th: Larry Lurr
9th: Blacktwins
9th: Jw
9th: Jayy
13th: Spencer
13th: Pokecheese
13th: Poke
13th: iModerz
17th: Lynx
17th: Venom
17th: Xyro
17th: San
17th: Fwed
17th: Rest Now
17th: iStudying
17th: Smokk
Is SDX the best mewtwo as of nowadays? Or is Wadi still holding that position?1st: SDX
The tournament wasn't too stacked. WaDi hasn't really participated in much events (that isn't a MD/VA local) lately, so it is hard to judge.Is SDX the best mewtwo as of nowadays? Or is Wadi still holding that position?
well hey I mean at least Mewtwo actually won something again.The tournament wasn't too stacked. WaDi hasn't really participated in much events (that isn't a MD/VA local) lately, so it is hard to judge.
SDX is definitely among the top Mewtwo players though.
That comment actually made me curious: how many majors did a character win this year? So I did a calculation on this.well hey I mean at least Mewtwo actually won something again.
Never heard of that. Plus aren't you assuming things?Is SDX the best mewtwo as of nowadays? Or is Wadi still holding that position?
Not too much. Everyone is gearing up for Ultimate, so the tournaments that would normally be stacked got shafted in terms of top player representation. I will provide the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12 soon (if someone could reply to this ).Never heard of that. Plus aren't you assuming things?
BTW, anything change during my long absence?
There are some Ultimate Discords up for specific characters and if not the Smash 4 character Discord will likely have one or more Ultimate channels, so Discord is pretty good for Ultimate discussions.Unfortunately, we're in that weird phase where actual character discussion is sparce and the Ultimate Discords aren't set up yet. So now I'm in a bind where I want to discuss Smash Ultimate in-depth character analysis and conpetitive impressions...but there's nowhere to really do it
Guess us Yoshi players can have a last laugh before Ultimate!Yay! Someone replayed... I honestly miss the days when this tread was active.
Anyways, here are the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12.
GTX 2018
1st: Lui$
2nd: Pandarian
3rd: Elegant
4th: Stroder
5th: Charlie
5th: Diablo
7th: UtopianRay
7th: Captain L
9th: Keitaro
9th: Shoe
9th: Banana Boy
9th: PiXL
Notable Players out Earlier:
13th: VaLoR
13th: S2H
17th: Mr E
Midwest Mayhem 12
1st: Marss
2nd: SDX
3rd: Maister
4th: Lima
5th: Dabuz
5th: tyroy
7th: yeti
7th: Geist
9th: Seth
9th: BestNess
9th: WelfarePickles
9th: Ned
13th: ATATA
13th: sinnyboo242
13th: Daybreak
13th: Spencer
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: big_mak
17th: SNooFL
33rd: Comet
Yeah. I cannot believe it is finally over. I feel like it is going out too soon.Came here to wish SSB4 (Wii U, specifically) a happy birthday, most sincerely, before it was too late.
Any changes you think would take place?Yeah. I cannot believe it is finally over. I feel like it is going out too soon.
Here are the results for DreamHack Atlanta 2018 (the final tournament for the PGR top 100):
1st: Tweek
2nd: Dabuz
3rd: VoiD
4th: Wrath
5th: ESAM
5th: Samsora
7th: Dark Wizzy
7th: Salem
9th: Karna
9th: Fatality
9th: CaptainZack
9th: dekillsage
13th: Pandarian
13th: Salt One
13th: Captain L
13th: Donquavious
Notable Players Out Earlier:
17th: Rideae
17th: Sonido
17th: Locus
17th: Eldin
17th: RFang
17th: Mr E
25th: MuteAce
25th: Blade
25th: Sandstorm
25th: Peabnut
25th: 8BitMan (Never knew he had a Cloud)
33rd: Wonderbread
33rd: Ryo
33rd: saj
I am still willing for a final SSB4 tier list to be released. The current one released almost a year ago feels pretty outdated to me.
I think the current tier list is still very accurate. With the exception of Lucario who might be too high because of Tsu's upset, pretty much every character seems to be at the right place.I am still willing for a final SSB4 tier list to be released. The current one released almost a year ago feels pretty outdated to me.
Characters like Mega Man, Ness, Wario, Mr. Game & Watch, Ike, Samus, and Pac-Man are loo low in the list. I also feel that Corrin and Duck Hunt is ready to move up to the next tier, to A and C tier, respectively.Any changes you think would take place?
Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.ESAM did a thing.
1111 Gunner is known to be somewhat decent, atd 1111 Swordfighter was at least better than 1111 Brawler, and with some results from Trela. It's really hard to place them anyway.Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.
If you know anything about Mii Swordfighter, it's extremely clear he's biased toward the character. For example, he says that Ike isn't scary to shield against from 80%-160% because Dthrow kills so late (Despite Ike having a ****ing throw confirm that he somehow just forgot to mention), and then somehow fails to mention the fact that Swordfighter doesn't even have a killthrow. Swordfighter does not belong at the top of low-tier; he's top of bottom tier at best.Has some accuracy to how today view the tier list (especially when compared to ZeRo's), but has questionable placements there. Non-customed Mii Gunner and Swordfighter at top 40? Never thought I live to see the day.
It does makes me fascinated on how different each of the top player's opinions are.
Pikachu in top 10, Ryu ranked 17th, and Samus 22nd.Edit: Here's the other half
I think the main reason why people thought Corrin is mid tier, is because he is constantly labeled as a "mid tier character with top tier moves", pointing out his subpar movement speed on the ground. The main reason why people thought 13th was too high for Corrin when the third official tier list came out, is because Corrin really didn't have too much results, especially in comparison to other characters who was in B tier at the time.Corrin #13, I'm fine with that, seems fairly accurate to me. Seems the whole "Corrin is mid tier because of lack of results" has died now. I remember the previous 4BR tier list, people really questioned Corrin's high placement, but these days people seem fine with Corrin around #11-15.
(She might be mid tier in Ultimate though, those nerfs really hurt her.)
Yeah, but people kept pushing the narrative on Reddit and Smashboard community tier lists, so.fam, people going "corrin is mid because no results" died quite a while ago
I argued that once Cosmos got to travel Corrin would get more results. That worked out pretty well, eh? So Corrin (as well as Lucina) are good examples why we shouldn't focus too much on results.nevermind that when the previous list came out it was a completely valid argument at that time, but that doesn't matter now
This may be true, and I suppose we should try to learn from it for Ultimate (then again, there are characters who people thought had "potential" that never really showed it, like Yoshi).I think the main reason why people thought Corrin is mid tier, is because he is constantly labeled as a "mid tier character with top tier moves", pointing out his subpar movement speed on the ground. The main reason why people thought 13th was too high for Corrin when the third official tier list came out, is because Corrin really didn't have too much results, especially in comparison to other characters who was in B tier at the time.
He really thinks that, huh? We'll have to come back from this...All I can do is really laugh that ESAM thinks that Samus is better than Greninja.
It seems like smash 4 will die without anyone understanding why Gren is good. Kinda lame, but that's the only way it was going to end.
It is mostly because he (and Salem I might also add,) believes in Samus' potential, which is why he put Samus so high.All I can do is really laugh that ESAM thinks that Samus is better than Greninja.
Hold on. You are in the rankings team?!?He really thinks that, huh? We'll have to come back from this...
If only more top Greninjas could actually travel to majors, because a lot of good Greninjas, excluding Venia, Donquavious and any other top US Gren, just don't have the opportunity to.
Then again, opinions like that don't make sense anyway.
Yesterday, so you're not far behind at all.It is mostly because he (and Salem I might also add,) believes in Samus' potential, which is why he put Samus so high.
Hold on. You are in the rankings team?!?
Congratulations! When did that happen?
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It's definitely going to happen, but maybe you should ask a mod over at the Ultimate forum perhaps. Probably after the game comes out, though.Hey guys I was wondering if you have any plans to start a competitive discussion thing for ultimate?
komo dropped off hard this season. Consistent top 10 placer (even ranked 1st at one point), but now 19th.And here's our current JPR placings so far:
11. Raito
12. Sigma
13. HIKARU
14. Kome
15. Masashi
16. Yuzu
17. T
18. shky
19. komorikiri
20. Tsu-
The rankings are starting to look crazy. I do believe that T, HIKARU, and especially Earth will be in top 50.Next PGR placings:
51. ScAtt
52. Rich Brown
53. dyr
54. Shoyo James
55. Tyroy
56. FOW
57. Ron (!!!)
58. Taiheita (!!!)
59. Wrath
60. Pink Fresh
61. Zenyou
62. K9sbruce (after Zenyou, LOL)
63. Etsuji (Tsuji/Edge) (!!!)
64. Tyrant
65. Trela
66. RAIN
67. Charlie
68. Rizeasu (!!!)
69. Mew2King
70. Glutonny
71. ikep (!!!) ()
72. Sigma (!!!!!)
73. False
74. Javi
75. SH (!!!!!)
You all don't know how long SH has been gone from the Japanese scene! Good to see him somewhere. My Japanese bias is showing, but I have to give credit where it's due. T, HIKARU and Earth for top 50 maybe?