Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

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Here's the Umebura Smash 4 Final entry list.

This is gonna be a treat! This, and Ultimate a week (I think?) later!
Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. [Edit: This is actually the Sumabato Smash 4 Finals, so whoops] Here are the results:

1st: Zackray:4corrin::4bayonetta2::4marth:
2nd: HIKARU:4dk::4sheik:
3rd: Some:4greninja:
4th: KEN:4sonic:
5th: Fuji:4cloud2:
5th: Atelier:rosalina:
7th: Shuton:4olimar:
7th: Shogun:4fox:
9th: Mao:4cloud2:
9th: takera:4ryu:
9th: DIO:4ryu:
9th: Parme:4samus:
13th: Masashi:4cloud2:
13th: Kishiru:4pikachu:
13th: Jan:rosalina::4ryu:
13th: komorikiri:4cloud2::4corrinf:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: Gackt:4ness:
17th: zaki:4dedede:
25th: Lea:4greninja:
25th: Kie:4peach:
25th: Eim:4sheik:
25th: Raito:4duckhunt:
33rd: Yuzu:rosalina:
33rd: Agehasama:4lucas:
33rd: Tea:4pacman:
33rd: Earth:4pit::4corrin:
33rd: kept:4villager:
33rd: Gomamugitya:4lucario:
65th: Compact:4mewtwo:



Might as well post the results for Canada Cup 2018:
1st: SDX:4mewtwo:
2nd: ANTi:4mario:
3rd: Mr.R:4sheik:
4th: Mr E:4lucina:
5th: Mistake:4bayonetta2:
5th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
7th: Ally:4mario:
7th: THUNDER:4ryu:
9th: Larry Lurr:4fox:
9th: Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
9th: Jw:4greninja:
9th: Jayy:4bayonetta:
13th: Spencer:4diddy:
13th: Pokecheese:4rob:
13th: Poke:4luigi:
13th: iModerz:4fox:
17th: Lynx:4sheik:
17th: Venom:4ryu:
17th: Xyro:4fox:
17th: San:4myfriends:
17th: Fwed:4fox:
17th: Rest Now:4ness:
17th: iStudying:4greninja:
17th: Smokk:4diddy:
 
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Umebura Smash 4 Finals is already over. Here are the results:

1st: Zackray:4corrin::4bayonetta2::4marth:
2nd: HIKARU:4dk::4sheik:
3rd: Some:4greninja:
4th: KEN:4sonic:
5th: Fuji:4cloud2:
5th: Atelier:rosalina:
7th: Shuton:4olimar:
7th: Shogun:4fox:
9th: Mao:4cloud2:
9th: takera:4ryu:
9th: DIO:4ryu:
9th: Parme:4samus:
13th: Masashi:4cloud2:
13th: Kishiru:4pikachu:
13th: Jan:rosalina::4ryu:
13th: komorikiri:4cloud2::4corrinf:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: Gackt:4ness:
17th: zaki:4dedede:
25th: Lea:4greninja:
25th: Kie:4peach:
25th: Eim:4sheik:
25th: Raito:4duckhunt:
33rd: Yuzu:rosalina:
33rd: Agehasama:4lucas:
33rd: Tea:4pacman:
33rd: Earth:4pit::4corrin:
33rd: kept:4villager:
33rd: Gomamugitya:4lucario:
65th: Compact:4mewtwo:



Might as well post the results for Canada Cup 2018:
1st: SDX:4mewtwo:
2nd: ANTi:4mario:
3rd: Mr.R:4sheik:
4th: Mr E:4lucina:
5th: Mistake:4bayonetta2:
5th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
7th: Ally:4mario:
7th: THUNDER:4ryu:
9th: Larry Lurr:4fox:
9th: Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
9th: Jw:4greninja:
9th: Jayy:4bayonetta:
13th: Spencer:4diddy:
13th: Pokecheese:4rob:
13th: Poke:4luigi:
13th: iModerz:4fox:
17th: Lynx:4sheik:
17th: Venom:4ryu:
17th: Xyro:4fox:
17th: San:4myfriends:
17th: Fwed:4fox:
17th: Rest Now:4ness:
17th: iStudying:4greninja:
17th: Smokk:4diddy:
That was actually the Sumabato finals. The Umebura finals shouldn't start still until the end of first week of the release date. Juddy has the list for the Umebura event himself, if you want to check.

Either way, this one is very stacked, and definitely will be fun to watch.
 
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Is SDX the best mewtwo as of nowadays? Or is Wadi still holding that position?
The tournament wasn't too stacked. WaDi hasn't really participated in much events (that isn't a MD/VA local) lately, so it is hard to judge.

SDX is definitely among the top Mewtwo players though.
 
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well hey I mean at least Mewtwo actually won something again.
That comment actually made me curious: how many majors did a character win this year? So I did a calculation on this.

Supermajors (PGR v5 A and A+ tiered tournaments; 2018 Q3 A and S tiered tournaments)
:4cloud2: - 7
Genesis 5 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Switchfest (MkLeo (Co-Main))
GOML 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
MomoCon 2018 (Tweek (Co-Main))
2GG: Hyrule Saga (Tweek (Co-Main)) *A+*
CEO 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *A+*
Super Smash Con 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *S*
:4marth: - 5
Genesis 5 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Switchfest (MkLeo (Co-Main))
GOML 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
CEO 2018 (Co-Main)) *A+*
Super Smash Con 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main)) *S*
:4bayonetta: - 4
MomoCon 2018 (Tweek (Co-Main))
2GG: Hyrule Saga (Tweek (Co-Main)) *A+*
EVO 2018 (Lima) *S*
Shine 2018 (Salem)
:rosalina: - 2
Frostbite 2018 (Dabuz)
Smash Sounds (Dabuz)
:4zss: - 1
SML: Battle for Vegas (Nairo)
:4sheik: - 1
Smash'N'Splash 4 (VoiD)
:4corrinf: - 1
The Big House 8 (Cosmos)

Majors/Semi-majors (PGR v5 B tiered tournaments) *Note: B tiered events in 2018 Q3 aren't very stacked.
:4zss: - 4

Niconico Tokaigi 2018 (Nairo)

Collision XV (Nairo)

Umebura 32 (Choco)
:4cloud2: - 2
EVO Japan 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
Glitch 4 (Tweek *Note: Used various characters, but Cloud is the main one.)
:4marth: - 1
EVO Japan 2018 (MkLeo (Co-Main))
:4bayonetta: - 1
EGLX 2018 (Tweek)
:4sonic: - 1
Umebura T.A.T. (KEN)

Total Amount
:4cloud2: - 9 *Note: The majority, in not all of them, has no solo Cloud.
:4marth: - 6 *Note: All of them is through MkLeo's antics.
:4bayonetta: - 5 *Note: Only 2 (3 if EGLX is counted) is done by solo Bayonetta, and both is at Q3 2018 (less stacked events than in PGR v5).
:4zss: - 5 *Note: All of them are solo, but four of them is through the second category.
:rosalina: - 2
:4sheik: - 1 *Note: The tournament won by VoiD is more stacked that the one won by Cosmos.
:4corrinf: - 1
:4sonic: - 1 *Note: Only in the second category.
 
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Never heard of that. Plus aren't you assuming things?

BTW, anything change during my long absence?
Not too much. Everyone is gearing up for Ultimate, so the tournaments that would normally be stacked got shafted in terms of top player representation. I will provide the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12 soon (if someone could reply to this :p).

ZeRo did notably announce that he will be competing in Smash Ultimate tournaments under Tempo Storm now. Here is a link to the full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIow4MVJ1dQ
 
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Since this thread is essentially dead...
I've been in the Ultimate General Discussion thread waiting for new info/chars to be revealed. Now that we know the whole cast, I only care about discussing characters in the game (while they care about DLC speculation now, which is why I left-the only reason I tolerated that thread in the first place is because it was the most bustling Ultimate thread). Unfortunately, we're in that weird phase where actual character discussion is sparce and the Ultimate Discords aren't set up yet. So now I'm in a bind where I want to discuss Smash Ultimate in-depth character analysis and conpetitive impressions...but there's nowhere to really do it

Edit: LOL as soon as I say it the Ultimate discords started appearing in Smashcords. Happy Ultimate-ing everyone, and see you in the next Ultimate Competitive subforum
 
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Unfortunately, we're in that weird phase where actual character discussion is sparce and the Ultimate Discords aren't set up yet. So now I'm in a bind where I want to discuss Smash Ultimate in-depth character analysis and conpetitive impressions...but there's nowhere to really do it
There are some Ultimate Discords up for specific characters and if not the Smash 4 character Discord will likely have one or more Ultimate channels, so Discord is pretty good for Ultimate discussions.
 
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Yay! Someone replayed... I honestly miss the days when this tread was active. :(
Anyways, here are the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12.

GTX 2018

1st: Lui$:4mario:
2nd: Pandarian:4metaknight:
3rd: Elegant:4luigi:
4th: Stroder:4greninja::4fox::4drmario::4lucina:
5th: Charlie:4fox::4bayonetta2:
5th: Diablo:4ryu:
7th: UtopianRay:rosalina:
7th: Captain L:4pikachu:
9th: Keitaro:4falco:
9th: Shoe:4zss:
9th: Banana Boy:4yoshi:
9th: PiXL:4ryu:
Notable Players out Earlier:
13th: VaLoR:4sonic:
13th: S2H:4metaknight:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:



Midwest Mayhem 12

1st: Marss:4zss:
2nd: SDX:4mewtwo:
3rd: Maister:4gaw:
4th: Lima:4bayonetta2:
5th: Dabuz:rosalina::4olimar:
5th: tyroy:4bayonetta:
7th: yeti:4tlink::4megaman:
7th: Geist:4bayonetta:
9th: Seth:4yoshi:
9th: BestNess:4ness:
9th: WelfarePickles:4mario:
9th: Ned:4cloud2:
13th: ATATA:4ness:
13th: sinnyboo242:4sheik:
13th: Daybreak:4fox::4falco::4cloud:
13th: Spencer:4ness:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: big_mak:4sheik:
17th: SNooFL:4fox:
33rd: Comet:4fox:
 
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Yay! Someone replayed... I honestly miss the days when this tread was active. :(
Anyways, here are the results for GTX and Midwest Mayhem 12.

GTX 2018

1st: Lui$:4mario:
2nd: Pandarian:4metaknight:
3rd: Elegant:4luigi:
4th: Stroder:4greninja::4fox::4drmario::4lucina:
5th: Charlie:4fox::4bayonetta2:
5th: Diablo:4ryu:
7th: UtopianRay:rosalina:
7th: Captain L:4pikachu:
9th: Keitaro:4falco:
9th: Shoe:4zss:
9th: Banana Boy:4yoshi:
9th: PiXL:4ryu:
Notable Players out Earlier:
13th: VaLoR:4sonic:
13th: S2H:4metaknight:
17th: Mr E:4lucina:



Midwest Mayhem 12

1st: Marss:4zss:
2nd: SDX:4mewtwo:
3rd: Maister:4gaw:
4th: Lima:4bayonetta2:
5th: Dabuz:rosalina::4olimar:
5th: tyroy:4bayonetta:
7th: yeti:4tlink::4megaman:
7th: Geist:4bayonetta:
9th: Seth:4yoshi:
9th: BestNess:4ness:
9th: WelfarePickles:4mario:
9th: Ned:4cloud2:
13th: ATATA:4ness:
13th: sinnyboo242:4sheik:
13th: Daybreak:4fox::4falco::4cloud:
13th: Spencer:4ness:
Notable Players out Earlier:
17th: big_mak:4sheik:
17th: SNooFL:4fox:
33rd: Comet:4fox:
Guess us Yoshi players can have a last laugh before Ultimate!
 
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