20 minute free form jazz odysses are not ok!!

[courte]

so ive been reading mixed opinions regarding kirby's newest musical track
some people saying that its not quite something they can fight to

what were your impressions of the fire emblem theme @ first??
i never thought id be spiking to a salsa opening but here i am to this day dancing in temple

then again if you've played kirby superstar you'd recognize this sound as nostalgia((i know kirby players who've never played a kirby game))

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Onett's music isn't exactly battle worthy

Infact like only the Pokemon music really get people in the mood to fight, probably because all of that music has to do with fighting.

 

[courte]

actually thinking about it the musics there for added fun when u look at it

wouldn't any of you listen to your favorite music by another artist to really get you amped??

 

[Wight]

honestly, meta knight was made so badass in this game. This song is epic fail. "Meta Knight's Revenge"? More like "Meta Knight's After One Too Many Boxes of Lucky Charms"

 

[Burnsro]

so ive been reading mixed opinions regarding kirby's newest musical track
some people saying that its not quite something they can fight to

what were your impressions of the fire emblem theme @ first??
i never thought id be spiking to a salsa opening but here i am to this day dancing in temple

then again if you've played kirby superstar you'd recognize this sound as nostalgia((i know kirby players who've never played a kirby game))

There is already a nice thread for this http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=116124 .

Although I'll comment on your thoughts anyway.

There is wide variety of composers that have been assigned the task of arranging various songs so we will see some interesting variations to some of them in the game.

The jazz version of the Revenge of Meta Knight song doesn't quite song like the original enough. So some people, like myself in another thread, complained that it's not as good as the original and deviates too much from it's source material. While others have complained that the Kid Icarus song sounds too much like the original and isn't different at all so it's not as exciting of an arrangement.

It's a blessing that there will be CDs to collect in the game so that the soundtrack for different stages can be changed, this way if someone doesn't like a particular song they can just turn it off for that stage. A really nifty feature!

 

[Zantetsu]

By looking at the title I thought this was going to be about guitar hero 3 (Since that is one of the loading messeges) >_>

Anyways I like the fire emblem song better then the kirby song but since the fire emblem one has lyrics...I'l go with kirby =\

Edit : 1,500th post =D

 

[Jisike]

The only reason im not too worried is becuase i think that there will be an original version of the song as a possible music choice... youll probably just have to find its CD

 

[Xanderous]

Nah, I love the music. It doesn't all have to be battling music. That's the draw of it.

 

[miller483]

I dunno what you're bumming out about, it's got that jokingly-serious tone that you come to expect to hear in a game like Smash Bros.

 

[MookieRah]

I'm actually quite disappointed with the Brawl music in general. In melee everything was orchestrated and nice, but in Brawl a lot of the music is synth. I think it's odd for them to downgrade it like that, considering the amount of composers on staff... You'd think they would have lined up a decent orchestra for recording this kind of thing...

I'm also well aware of the fact that not everything needs to be orchestral, but when you are using a synth trumpet and synth percussion in a piece it is drastically less quality than getting the real thing.

Also, I think the new theme was overly ambitious and a bit pretentious. Don't get me wrong, I freaking LOVE Nobuo Uematsu, but the opera singers in a fighting game was a bad move. I'm not even against opera, the FF6 opera peice was great...

Arghh... it's hard for me not to rant on this topic, but I think they were fundamentally flawed by having 30,000 composers, no orchestra, and nobody questioning the clout of some of the composers involved.

 

[maxpower1227]

I'll beat you all at GH3. Just sayin

 

[courte]

I dunno what you're bumming out about, it's got that jokingly-serious tone that you come to expect to hear in a game like Smash Bros.

exactly!! sakurai says it himself slapstick
and who's to say the original wouldn't be in.

the last and first game were both made by hal laboratories, developers of the kirby games
i'd imagine that there impact on the smash scene would be enought that theyd have just about as much say as mario or link's side of the debate

 

[miller483]

I'm actually quite disappointed with the Brawl music in general. In melee everything was orchestrated and nice, but in Brawl a lot of the music is synth. I think it's odd for them to downgrade it like that, considering the amount of composers on staff... You'd think they would have lined up a decent orchestra for recording this kind of thing...

I'm also well aware of the fact that not everything needs to be orchestral, but when you are using a synth trumpet and synth percussion in a piece it is drastically less quality than getting the real thing.

Also, I think the new theme was overly ambitious and a bit pretentious. Don't get me wrong, I freaking LOVE Nobuo Uematsu, but the opera singers in a fighting game was a bad move. I'm not even against opera, the FF6 opera peice was great...

Arghh... it's hard for me not to rant on this topic, but I think they were fundamentally flawed by having 30,000 composers, no orchestra, and nobody questioning the clout of some of the composers involved.

You do know that it's been confirmed that the music on the Dojo is just MIDI samples right?

 

[Symphony X]

some people saying that its not quite something they can fight to

I can TOTALLY fight to it.

 

[Darkurai]

In melee everything was orchestrated and nice

Barely anything in Melee was orchestrated. It was all midis. This much is obvious based on how the Smashing...LIVE! orchestra sounds. Granted, the SL songs are arranged differently from the actual Melee soundtrack, but if they were both orchestrated, they'd have more in common then the melody and rhythm.

 

[Irow]

I think only FoD was orchestrated.

MIDI's suck, here's hoping most of the music will be orchestrated in the end.

 

[Cojiro]

You do know that it's been confirmed that the music on the Dojo is just MIDI samples right?

The question is how representative the site music will be of the final game. Has there been any statement saying music quality is lessened for Dojo updates?

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Yes, they are.

 

[Superstarmario]

It really is hard to think of this crap as battle music ON THE HALBERD. It's a ok little piece by itself, I am a hardcore Kirby fan so I can recognize it, but why change it this way? It sounds like an awful thing to do to such a epic stage.

 

[Al Calnos]

Obviously, some people don't appreciate jazzy music....

 

[Xarias]

Someone post the original from Superstar for comparison!

 

[XeroHarsh]

Someone post the original from Superstar for comparison!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEQJshURjVs&feature=related


By far, I love the original more then the new one.

 

[Rx-]

I think that Sakurai has clearly implemented a feature so that if you don't like the music, you don't have to hear it. You're a whiner.

 

[Eggman]

Dude, I love this new arrangement, and I grew up with Superstar. They coulda made some orchestrated or techno thing, but they thought outside the box and used the best music genre, jazz (can you tell I'm a jazz lover?). This, to me, is about as epic as Ashley's theme. MORE JAZZ ARRANGEMENTS!!!

In regards to the Dojo/Midi thing, could someone show proof? I believe you, but I have a friend at school who's been dissing Brawl's midi-tone and I wanna show him proof that it's just the site.

 

[Mr.Victory07]

Well some Melee music wasnt exactly "battle-worthy" either(Onett, icicle mountai, princess P.'s castle, temple, raimbow cruise just to name a few.)

 

[Darkurai]

Here on Smash Bros. Dojo, we will share that music with you through occasional trial listening.

Trial means the real one is better.

 

[Drone 147]

I'm slightly disapointed...


at all the reactions from these "kirby fans"! First of all, I love kirby music. Superstar, in fact, is my favorite game in the series. I've played that game back and forth since I was maybe 7.
So naturally, when I saw the new music on the Dojo I was excited. After I listened to it... I was excited! I mean sure I love the original score, but if you have listened to it side by side with the jazzed version, you'll notice they are quite similar. One of the major differences, however, is that the original is done with synth tech from 10 years ago while the new version sounds so much more fleshed out. I listened to both, the old version just seemed so "2D" in comparison. I accept the arrangement with open arms.

And on top of all that, the only reason the new song sounds jazzier then the old is because of how much worse the old synth is! Listen to the old one, there are trumpets 'battling' just like in the arrangement.

 

[Twisted]

I think that Sakurai has clearly implemented a feature so that if you don't like the music, you don't have to hear it. You're a whiner.

thank you for finally pointing this out. Also ALL music in Brawl (so far) is orchastrated so even though I and others like the original better they had to do something with it . I can see why they chose jazz, it had a very smooth trasition. Plus as Sakurai said its just a change of pace. Obviously there is not going to be 20 jazz songs.

 

[Darkurai]

thank you for finally pointing this out. Also ALL music in Brawl (so far) is orchastrated so even though I and others like the original better they had to do something with it . I can see why they chose jazz, it had a very smooth trasition. Plus as Sakurai said its just a change of pace. Obviously there is not going to be 20 jazz songs.

Except for some demo music such as Delfino Plaza and some Metroid Prime 3 song that I don't know the name of.

 

[KJC2004]

its sounds the same to me with a little more AWESOME

 

[Byron X]

I'm slightly disapointed...


at all the reactions from these "kirby fans"! First of all, I love kirby music. Superstar, in fact, is my favorite game in the series. I've played that game back and forth since I was maybe 7.
So naturally, when I saw the new music on the Dojo I was excited. After I listened to it... I was excited! I mean sure I love the original score, but if you have listened to it side by side with the jazzed version, you'll notice they are quite similar. One of the major differences, however, is that the original is done with synth tech from 10 years ago while the new version sounds so much more fleshed out. I listened to both, the old version just seemed so "2D" in comparison. I accept the arrangement with open arms.

And on top of all that, the only reason the new song sounds jazzier then the old is because of how much worse the old synth is! Listen to the old one, there are trumpets 'battling' just like in the arrangement.

Agreed, the song is epic regardless

 

[MysteriousSage]

I didn't particularly like the song, but I could stand it being in the game.
Even if you don't like this song, you can just change the song for the stage.

 

[Zek]

Trial means the real one is better.

No, it means the real one is longer. Where was it ever said that the final songs wouldn't be MIDI like the site samples?

 

[MookieRah]

Barely anything in Melee was orchestrated. It was all midis. This much is obvious based on how the Smashing...LIVE! orchestra sounds. Granted, the SL songs are arranged differently from the actual Melee soundtrack, but if they were both orchestrated, they'd have more in common then the melody and rhythm.

Umm... no guy. The songs in game ARE orchestrated. The difference between the in game and SL is that SL was a recording of a live show. The recording for melee is much better, because it was recorded professionally and well mixed. Seriously... listen to the in game melee music, it's obviously not synths...

You do know that it's been confirmed that the music on the Dojo is just MIDI samples right?

Oh wow, I didn't know that. That makes me feel INFINITELY better about the music, although what I said about the main theme still stands.

 

[Lemon Drop]

I have no problem with this music. One of the coolest sound tracks in Kirby Super Star. Though I wonder why they went jazz?

 

[rexpro02]

is simple... if u played kirby superstar u got to love the song....
i played kirby superstar long time ago and i love the song it even made me play it again..( i mean im playing while writting this...)

.... is such a good song i cant explain it ......

 

[courte]

ok i made a post very annoyong and was served as expected...

what exactly is my punishment??

more importantly lets all remember my music
no doubt most of you will have this one too the minimum probability
but have we all kept in mind if characters and items are returning with so much music why would it return as well... lets all stop?? i've opened tho floodgates of hell

 

[DraginHikari]

I don't know, I guess I'm not enough of a music buff to care whether it's MIDI or Live music. As long as it sounds half way decent.

 

[Youkai Master]

You people are crazy Meta Knight's Revenge song is ****ing awesome. Sure it may not fit the character very much but non the less it a great jazz arrangement.

 

[courte]

its sounds the same to me with a little more AWESOME

agreed!! just one question who would object if it was hard metal rocked out??