Circus

No johns watch rubicon.

It's only 13 episodes you could knock that out so fast

Honestly you're more starving for more just because it's so good. The conspiracy is completely blown open and the ending actually kind of fits the tone of the series even though it wasn't intended to be the actual ending.

So like, the main reason I started this conversation was to recommend you Rubicon, which is made by the same network that made Mad Men and Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead. I love Mad Men and BB to death, and the first episode of TWD is on that level and the best zombie film ever all by itself. The later episodes weren't as good in my opinion but they were still super above average and had some good characters/dramatic moments (Jimmmmm augh you were my hero). But yeah, watch Mad Men and Breaking Bad for sure, at some point.

However, Rubicon takes priority for me. Rubicon is insanely original because despite being about conspiracies and spying and espionage, it's all realistic and character drama-y. The conspiracy itself is a little out there but I think that's just so they can tackle real world political issues without it being outright depresssing. It simultaneously refuses to be friendly to stupid people at all and yet isn't stuck up its own *** about it. Pretty much every character is funny at times, even "bad guys" if they can be so called, and I dunno. It impresses me because so much character development is literally not spelled out for you at all, you have to pick it up from characters' actions and body language and facial expressions and all that stuff.

I'm kind of rambling but it's easier to pitch the show on AIM. Basically, it's a slow paced moody character drama that happens to contain paranoia and conspiracies and stuff.

So do you ever watch any TV shows?

Contrary to popular belief there are sometimes good ones, and sometimes they even stay in existence long enough to tell a story.

So what the ****, I'm high, and I find myself on Circus's page, and then I see EE's already been here and high today.

Why am I so late to every party.

one time I was so blazed I was worried my eyes were rolling backward into my head and i had to stop them

dude I'm so high right now

nahhh mannnnn

Also,

Word. I just now vowed ot stop reading/looking for/etc spoilers and set pics and ****. That is of course only going to make the wait infinitely more agonizing. Innnnfinitely.

Also, gold dice! Just noticed that. When'd that come in?

on an infinitely more awesome note...

ahgshaghhg i made the mistake of going back.

why do I do this to myself

Man I sometimes forget how stupid SWFers can be, but then I read Current Events.

lol no he is just some furry on luelinks who has your avatar

are YOU SAUSAGE MAHONEY?!?

Yeah. Again, with that typical-plain-bread-hotness she has, that buxom femme fatale kinda old fashioned quality doesn't fit her easily. Her age (and looking even younger than she is) don't help.

I've always seen Selina Kyle as someone a lot more experienced in the ways of the world than Bruce Wayne, all Far East odysseys of self-discovery aside. Especially sexually. Part of what gives her that dangerous vibe, I think, is that Bruce Wayne by simply being Batman shows that he's still in a lot of ways arrested in his development. Running around in a Batsuit wailing on criminals generally tends to just be an unhealthy albeit productive way to get out that helpless, boyish grief.

So he's that dark boy scout of sorts, in so many ways the definition of a child. Then you have this Catwoman slinking around being all seductive, and Batman just never knows how he really feels about it. And he knows on some level that she's manipulating him, but he kind of allows it. Often naively. Like a schoolboy and a naughty teacher.

There's that whole subtext going on with those characters that I don't think Hathaway can fit into, no matter how well she acts the part. Particularly when cast opposite the, what, 35 year old Bale, now? For my money, the best Catwoman would probably be Monica Bellucci circa the early 00s. Overwhelmingly attractive, but also a bit older than Batman, fitting all those sultry qualities I've mentioned. More hot in a dangerous, vampiric, fountain of youth kinda way.

I have literally never seen her do "real acting". But, that was also the case for Heath Ledger pre-TDK, and Tom Hardy I'd only seen in Inception until I watched Bronson and realized how perfect he is. So I have faith.

What I'm actually wondering about is if she can pull off the sultry sexiness. As a young heterosexual Batman fanboy this is obviously of the utmost importance to me haha. (also it's an important part of the character and stuff)

Like I can imagine hathaway acting well, and being sexy. But, I dunno, I always thought Catwoman should have a kind of earthiness to her, like a 1950s film noir femme fatale vixen quality. And Hathaway's just so darn typical-hot-actress and seems even younger than she is, which is already pretty young. That's the nagging doubt I have. I'm not seein' it.

Bane is all Hardy afaik. It helps that the movie he shot right before Batman was Warrior in which he played a champion-level UFC fighter and had to get buff and ripped as hell. From there I imagine it wasn't hard at all to add on a bunch of extra bulky not-necessarily-lean muscle to get properly Baney. And all that fighting training will help him maintain the physicality despite Bane's lumbering size. So awesome.

I figure add in a little bit of clever cinematography (LOTR style) and he'll be super duper wtf massive.

I don't think I could have ever envisioned a Christopher Nolan / Beyonce comparison of any kind, much less a valid one. I like to imagine Christian Bale hopping on stage when some mediocre underdog movie getting an Oscar for the sake of trendiness (coughjunocough) to Kanye it up, then giving the person accepting the award a punch in the kidney, then a 180 roundhouse to the jaw of the award presenter. Then he drops a smokebomb and disappears into the night instead of shrugging with a total douche look on his face.

If TDKR is as good as it seems to be shaping up to be, he really might have a shot. I always thought he damn well deserved best film, best writing, and best directing nominations at the very least for TDK, just because the sheer, ridiculous amount of things that were going on. The massive ensemble cast, and the fact that literally all of the characters had dilemmas and issues to deal with and, more often than not, a character arc. That's just insanely impressive and required a ton of skill across the board to accomplish, and the fact that none of that was recognized with at least a nomination is seriously astonishing. But the Oscars suck bags of ****s on a regular basis, so eh, it's old news really. Still wanna be cantankerous about it, though.

The most admirable thing I can say about TDKR thus far is that rather than casting a huge and even just slightly-good actor, Nolan cast a very good character actor that isn't really all that big (most of the time). And then this actor was dedicated enough to the role, despite it having the Comic Book Stink, to dedicate the time needed to become mountainously huge, just to get it right. Tom Hardy from his regular chillaxed size to Bane has seriously got to be on par with Christian Bale's turbo weight loss for the Machinist, but in reverse.

I can't remember what Nolan films you said you hadn't seen (I think just Following?) but get on that. Following is right up there with his best. And yeah it's pretty insane just how good he is. All his movies would rate at least a 3.5-4 outta five with me, if I were some kinda critic type.

So yeah see whatever Nolan movies you haven't, and then see Ed Wood after.

You can refuse to use AIM all you want, but that won't protect you from this unstoppable bromance.

So how bout that there christopher nolan?

I'm hydraing with Glyph right now in Duck Tales. It's such a slow moving game though. After it, I'll probably start playing more.

you still mafia? did. not. know. I've been gone too long.

Circus you should hit me up on AIM sometime.

a chameleon's tongue goes out faster than a jet plane

or something

could you do me a huge favor and replace into cowboy bebop.... huge favor... i need to modkill if i cant find one and ive already used my two plus roped ee into replacing in

sorry! i was just in the car on the way to work today thinking "jeez i flaked on circus. not cool."

ive looked at it and there are a lot of things id like to ask you / point out about roles/mechanics/things i think clash. i just need to write up the PM. i hope to do it tonight, ive just been flaky.

you are posting again!!!111 :o

i reply to your pm tomorrow

been looking it over

absolutely. send me a pm and ill help any way i can.

Pretty much complete a set-up and submit it to one of the mods in full.

Been busy with classes and work and stuff. The usual. And you?

So what are you doin'?

Yeah. Sometimes they say or do funny things and amuse me. Sometimes they're just persistently annoying. And of course, sometimes they want to see who's a bigger punchy dude, sigh.

But for all that crap I'll take this job over any of the infinite retail, call center, and restaurant jobs I've had any day of the week.

Yeah, I'm in too deep to change now xD. Unless I wanted to teach, but yeah right . Plus I hope to go into Business law anyway, none of that courtroom jazz.

Talking Lions > everyting the world has ever given us. We should switch to sciences and create one. Or animal trainers. The second one sounds easier.

Talking Lions > Art School all day.

Yeah, I'm currently an English major, pre-law, and taking the LSAT in June. Then I have to actually apply to law schools, blah.

Art school would be pretty cool. Can't you get scholarships based on your portfolio or something? I think someone i knew did that and got a metric button of money.

But! Narnia would be much cooler. And much more exciting! I'd go that route, if i were you.

I hear you man. School is expensive everywhere here though, especially since all the uni's are pretty much farther than commuting distance from where you're at :/.

UM Dearborn I guess would work.

No I went to Detroit Country Day, and just commuted. I didn't move until about 2-3 years ago.

Yeah heh, people right in your backyard. You said you went to CC, Schoolcraft? Or somewhere else?

It's like the Register thread thats stickied. I onyl like like 20 minutes from there now haha

Oh, I also noticed at looking at a BRoom thread, we used to live in the same city haha.

School and work. Still takin that criminology degree and acquiring it at a snail's pace.

My job's a bit more fun. I am a bouncer (or, as someone recently called it and as I will call the occupation forever now, "big punchy dude"). So yeah I get to throw people around and stuff, or be entertained by funny drunk people and randomly flashed and stuff by drunk girls. Sometimes it's annoying but overall it is enjoyable.