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Pit can stay, and Peach is starting to get some more love, so she deserves to atleast be close to it.
Have you seen a Villager win atleast 2-3 tournaments? Besides Pit is becoming more of a threat every tournament(whether it's Earth, Pink Fresh, or even Nairo). Dark Pit going down is understandable though.
...Pink Fresh still uses Pit and got top 32 with him at Big House, he's even manage to scare Angel Cortez with him...and this was before he even got the game.
We're talking about both, and I still disagree with the Pit/Villager situation, but to each their own(whIle I agree with ZeRo and ESAM, y'all don't).So...we're talking about tiers 6 and 7, right?
(I agree with others in that Villager and Pac-Man should replace the Pits in top 16, and that Peach should just barely make the cut at #16.)
Sorry, bro, I know Pit is your main but he's not that good. Not even top 20. Villager and pac should definitely take the places of Pit/Dark Pit.We're talking about both, and I still disagree with the Pit/Villager situation, but to each their own(whIle I agree with ZeRo and ESAM, y'all don't).
Pac-Man on the other hand...
Ike definitely top probably like 15/16 peach or him but Ryo (ike main) just wade it to top 12 at mlg so he has more viability in tournament than people think.
Results don't equal tier lists. They can factor in sure, but villager has top representation in Japan. This is a smash Wii U tier list, not an american tier list. Just because somebody doesn't get results in one place doesn't mean they are bad in that place. The pits have basically Pink Fresh and Nairo, and Nairo uses D pit a lot less, and Pink Fresh's best placement is top 32/500 players. Doubt he would've gotten it at EVO with 2000 players.
It doesn't matter what region/country/planet the tier list is from, results helps a character. Sure Pit's best player is in Japan and Nairo uses Pit/Dark Pit at smaller events(he almost used Pit at Big House, but didn't want to get downloaded), but Pink Fresh, KiraFlex, some player named Palutena, even @CHOMPY are representing Pit(the Dark Pit hype pretty much died out, so I'm kinda starting to feel like Pit should be ranked higher than his inferior clone(Uprising wise)). Besides, Pit is the only real all around type character in the game, so he'd atleast be top 18. Also, we'll never know how Pink Fresh would've done since he started training more during the tournament, and got the game weeks later.
Mine is this, but replacing Wario with Villager and moving Diddy Kong higher. (Wario's still good, but not as good as these guys. His specials save him.)Pac-Man definitely is Top 16, but he barely makes the cut. Villager isnt.
My personal Top 16 is:
// (TOP TIER) End of "Typical" Solo Tournament Viability Characters... (HIGH TIER) (HIGH-MID TIER) End of "Current" Competitive Viability (MID TIER) (Order is mostly Irrelevant from C class on.) (LOW-MID TIER) (LOW TIER) (LOW TIER) (BOTTOM TIER)
No way Doc, Lucas, Marth, Samus, and G&W are that low, no way Dark Pit's that much lower than Pit. I do like the placement of Rosalina, Toon Link, and Dedede, though!~ A
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Just a simple personal 1.1.1 Tier list compiled based on Results and Viability Ratings plus a
little bit of Personal Opinion.
If you're adding results, Zelda wouldn't be in bottom tier. ven and Zylach has won tournaments with Zelda and both are on PRs. ven also lives in FOWs region, a strong region. maXy and SBphiloz have gotton results outside of the US too. I haven't seen anyone else in D have her achievements.~ A
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Just a simple personal 1.1.1 Tier list compiled based on Results and Viability Ratings plus a
little bit of Personal Opinion.
In my opinion though i love her and main her, the 1.1.1 update puts her back a few steps, im glad to hear more results have been confirmed, lets see what happens going forward.. I've never seen a Zelda in high level competitive play, and former Tier list's already had her bottom. I think 1.1.1 is only going to hurt slower characters more based on frame data.. Think ill look into those players though ^^
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Just a simple personal 1.1.1 Tier list compiled based on Results and Viability Ratings plus a
little bit of Personal Opinion based upon Statistics.
>Dark Pit an entire tier below Pit~ A
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Just a simple personal 1.1.1 Tier list compiled based on Results and Viability Ratings plus a
little bit of Personal Opinion based upon Statistics.
Look at it like this, Pit may be the Fourth best (Swords/Weaponsmen) in the game, better them more than half xP ^^ JOKING...
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I main OlimarI still consider these guys as a top 20 contenders atleast
Also, where's the Lucario rep?
I'm honestly not but opinions are opinions
Sam was overly generic imo. Jess was the worst, she was dumb and useless. I loved Emily's bitchiness and sassiness. Ashley was eh.
