iRanch
Smash Cadet
Purple ganon master race
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Linguini
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n0ne
Smash Ace
But... When u use default colors u preserve X and Y buttons' lifespan
Liking my own post just cuz of dat
edit: wait u cant to that bs on smashboards
Liking my own post just cuz of dat
edit: wait u cant to that bs on smashboards
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Lmfao n0ne I'm pretty sure I would have liked some of my own posts by now if that were the case. I even reported one to moderators last year when i was drunk saying "too much good info" lmfao. Tbh you're lucky if a post even goes through on crashboards.
But yeah I like red Ganon. That blood red rage. I think i like red just cause if someone gets default Ganon before me it automatically goes red lol.
But yeah I like red Ganon. That blood red rage. I think i like red just cause if someone gets default Ganon before me it automatically goes red lol.
Renth
Smash Hero
Blue is just my favorite color, no other reason.
Coastward
Smash Lord
this is a nice metagame discussion.
n0ne
Smash Ace
Honestlyyyyyyyyy
This is from the heart
All of dorfs colors are awful
Maybe not awful but just salty that i gotta use hacks for ocarina of time texture
This is from the heart
All of dorfs colors are awful
Maybe not awful but just salty that i gotta use hacks for ocarina of time texture
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Just as l0ng as you don't talk sh*t about that cheap rug Ganon calls a cape, we have no beef.
Edit: all in favor of banning coast?
lmao
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Coastward
Smash Lord
its all in one recording thats like 4 hours, i gotta seperate everything so chillllllllllll.
n0ne
Smash Ace
Thats the rum talking pay no mind, i come in peace
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Heineken and micro brews here, lmao.
n0ne
Smash Ace
National nicaraguan rum (flor de cana) , funky ass tasting turkey (its thanksgiving) , and effin lack of cigarretes
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
I feel the need to break rules sometimes, as I used to be a moderator and got de-modded unjustly. I actually gave a sh*t (not about the rules, but the G boards) and now no one moderates it so idgaF lol f*ck mlg, crashboards, and anyone that has the ability to infract me.
Edit: n0ne we need to party.
Edit: n0ne we need to party.
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n0ne
Smash Ace
cptjiggles69
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
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I alternate between purple and red
Renth
Smash Hero
I'm gonna mod Ganondorf's Cape to have a smash symbol on it and the words along the top and bottom will just be Kage Bomb.
cause ya know... Everything Ganondorf does should be some how related to Kage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a10YL2WK6ig
cause ya know... Everything Ganondorf does should be some how related to Kage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a10YL2WK6ig
Coastward
Smash Lord
n0ne youre always drunk LMAO
n0ne
Smash Ace
Lifes just too short
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
I used to be red Ganon, but then I went green cause Kage.
I'm going Link/Doc for singles now but I'll still play Ganon for Doubles. I don't think Ganon is fun in singles anymore and his weaknesses make him not fun for me. I'll do what I want to do and I have a plan.
I'm going Link/Doc for singles now but I'll still play Ganon for Doubles. I don't think Ganon is fun in singles anymore and his weaknesses make him not fun for me. I'll do what I want to do and I have a plan.
n0ne
Smash Ace
Back air. U have no idea.
Renth
Smash Hero
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
*shrug* I have more fun with Link.
n0ne
Smash Ace
I havent been having fun with link since 1989 cuz the game is called the legend of zelda
Altho he seems viable in sm4sh
Coastward
Smash Lord
LOL EDGARD YOU KILL ME
real talk though, it's hard to improve on my own time. i don't know what i need to be looking for to improve on since ive been working on my lacking neutral game.
i really wanna study videos, but im really bad at taking parts and just examining what i would be able to do there. feels much better having someone with me to talk about it and help me understand it more. it also takes a **** ton of time too, kinda sucks but i need to get on the grind.
i guess for now i practice my shield drops and RLDs until i figure something out.
real talk though, it's hard to improve on my own time. i don't know what i need to be looking for to improve on since ive been working on my lacking neutral game.
i really wanna study videos, but im really bad at taking parts and just examining what i would be able to do there. feels much better having someone with me to talk about it and help me understand it more. it also takes a **** ton of time too, kinda sucks but i need to get on the grind.
i guess for now i practice my shield drops and RLDs until i figure something out.
n0ne
Smash Ace
First thing about working on neutral game is accepting the fact that dorf's neutral game is terrible.
After that, its all about spacing and mindgaming with platforms and wavelands.
Also, bair to pivot jab/f tilt i feel is really overlooked.
Its all about implanting fear with dorf's backair since it comes out so fast and will always outprioritze ANY move if spaced correctly, or will at LEAST trade.
And after that its about mixing it up.
If u stay really static tho and try to ftilt, shhield grab, jab, d tilt or stuff like that ( i call it towering ) ur gonna get wrecked and u dont want that
n0ne
Smash Ace
There are a lot of useful other stuff but its gonna sound lame but honestly im not that good at explaining stuff if its not while im playing and i dont say them in public cuz of spacy lurkers. Some things are really best off kept secret, since we're fellow dorfs that kind of info should not be said in public but im more than ok saying that stuff un private sessions
Off-topic whoa im dizzy where am i
Off-topic whoa im dizzy where am i
Mongoose132
Smash Rookie
I regret not saying anything to you guys. I saw psuedo turtle at McDonalds, my friend said something about teaching me how to play Ganondorf... Lol.
But the next major I go to im going to try to reach out more. I really need some good Ganon advice when I can get it.
I played DLA in my pool also. He 2-0'd me, but I felt like it was close (within one stock each time)
But the next major I go to im going to try to reach out more. I really need some good Ganon advice when I can get it.
I played DLA in my pool also. He 2-0'd me, but I felt like it was close (within one stock each time)
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Oops.... lol
GanonMaster
Smash Apprentice
work, could you end so I could go home and play Ganon 
Renth
Smash Hero
About to stream for a few hours with Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time speed runner "Moltov."
He plays Peach/Sheik if anyone is interested in watching those specific match ups.
www.twitch.tv/Lunacy_Renth
He plays Peach/Sheik if anyone is interested in watching those specific match ups.
www.twitch.tv/Lunacy_Renth
Moy
Where's the coffee cake?
How does everyone shield drop?
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Hahaha I remember that! Yea, your friend (can't believe I'm forgetting his tag) said something like "but... you're ganon." after I 2-0'd him in pools... not in a salty way or anything, just joking around. Tell him I said hey! Nice guy.
Yea man, please reach out to all of the ganons you see. I know Eikelmann (also at big house) is big on helping the new blood as well, and I'd be more than happy to give you some pointers next time I see you. I can teach you how to win at, like, 4 whole matchups.
DLA... isn't he a Chicago guy? I should really know this, but I don't go to enough tournaments nowadays. I could have sworn he was a PM only player. @
Moy
, a little help here?And, btw, I suck at shield dropping (I'm practicing though), but here's my stance on it. Use it sparingly, otherwise it just becomes a gimmick; something you can use once against a good player, but they won't fall for it twice. If you're shielding and they don't expect you to be able to shield drop uair, then that's great- do it. But a good player will bait it out after he realizes it's an option. When I was playing nmw, I realized he was really good at it. I was really impressed by his ability to do it consistently, but he did it every single time he was on a platform shielding (happens a lot vs ganon, go figure), so I punished it.
I personally think that shield dropping is much better used as a counter attack. Imagine you're playing a Marth and he fsmashes your shield on a platform. Up until 2014, nobody has properly punished this, but it IS punishable (not that I've ever done it). You definitely have time to shield drop bair/uair and maybe even dair/fair (not certain on these last two options). Or what if you're getting hit by a ganon fair on shield? Unless that **** is from a full hop, there's gonna be a lot of lag on it and you should have time to shield drop uair/bair. Tm did this to me a couple of times so I know it works. Shout outs. I only named a few situations, but use your imagination.
To answer your question: I do the axe method.
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Moy
Where's the coffee cake?
yeah Turtle, DLA is from Chicago. He's been playing Melee a lot more recently even though he's one of the best in PM. I have yet to play him in tournament at EXP though. But I really like Ganon dittos in Melee. they're meh in any other game.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
From my experience shield dropping can be used more than sparingly and should. One of ganon's weakest positions is being stuck in his shield on a platform vs a high tier character. You can get around this by shield dropping, but you should only do it if you know they will attack your shield or if they put themselves in a bad position. If they attack your shield and try to crossup or misspace you get a free bair or uair. If they attack you safely you just shield drop without using an aerial and it's pretty safe. Two players (non ganons) that you'll see do this a lot are Armada and plup. Armada will only uair out of his shield drop if he knows he'll get it off. Otherwise, he'll shield drop pretty ****ing often to get out of there. Plup on the other hand seems to light shield to cover pokes and then drop when it's safe.Hahaha I remember that! Yea, your friend (can't believe I'm forgetting his tag) said something like "but... you're ganon." after I 2-0'd him in pools... not in a salty way or anything, just joking around. Tell him I said hey! Nice guy.
Yea man, please reach out to all of the ganons you see. I know Eikelmann (also at big house) is big on helping the new blood as well, and I'd be more than happy to give you some pointers next time I see you. I can teach you how to win at, like, 4 whole matchups.
DLA... isn't he a Chicago guy? I should really know this, but I don't go to enough tournaments nowadays. I could have sworn he was a PM only player. @
And, btw, I suck at shield dropping (I'm practicing though), but here's my stance on it. Use it sparingly, otherwise it just becomes a gimmick; something you can use once against a good player, but they won't fall for it twice. If you're shielding and they don't expect you to be able to shield drop uair, then that's great- do it. But a good player will bait it out after he realizes it's an option. When I was playing nmw, I realized he was really good at it. I was really impressed by his ability to do it consistently, but he did it every single time he was on a platform shielding (happens a lot vs ganon, go figure), so I punished it.
I personally think that shield dropping is much better used as a counter attack. Imagine you're playing a Marth and he fsmashes your shield on a platform. Up until 2014, nobody has properly punished this, but it IS punishable (not that I've ever done it). You definitely have time to shield drop bair/uair and maybe even dair/fair (not certain on these last two options). Or what if you're getting hit by a ganon fair on shield? Unless that **** is from a full hop, there's gonna be a lot of lag on it and you should have time to shield drop uair/bair. Tm did this to me a couple of times so I know it works. Shout outs. I only named a few situations, but use your imagination.
To answer your question: I do the axe method.
You are right of course that mindlessly throwing out and aerial every time will get you punished. I learned this the hard way. But with much practice, I've learned when it's safe to use and you can get away with it quite a bit if you're smart with it.
tl;dr shield dropping is more than a gimmick in the right hands and should be used in a reactionary manner
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Hana Na Tahou
Smash Apprentice
Is Peach generally a bad matchup for Ganon? Or is it just me? Cause i can't even against Peach. Seems to be a bit more quick than i remember. Also i'm starting to notice all those little things in the game that i never noticed (endlag on moves, Wavedashes, getting the timing down on edgeguarding moves) though there's still much i can't do, i'm gonna keep trying.
Renth
Smash Hero
Stream is running better than ever now.
![Эикельманн [РУС]](/data/avatars/l/153/153661.jpg?1415225120){kind=avatar}
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
DLA was also arguably the best Brawl Ganondorf for like 4 years straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKIxu669Y_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I-Ut0TbWIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKIxu669Y_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I-Ut0TbWIs
Brawl Ganondorf dittos are pretty great lol
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PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Lol brawl is so bad. Good on him to start up with melee!
Does he play ganon in melee too?
Does he play ganon in melee too?
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Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
yeah. i've played netplay with him under my sasukebowser account. he's working on melee.