kelots
Smash Cadet
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what do I search on the interwebs to check this out?
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Social General Ice Climber Chat
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Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Go look at choknater's stickied thread on hammers.
The most basic IC combo is grab ftilt pummel at an interval of 200 bpm without throwing. :3
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The videos should be uploaded to this channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SmashSkane
Nothing has been uploaded so far though
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
I use shield drop nair or uair. sometimes bair if it's the right position.
just remember, shield dropping usually desyncs you. nana doesn't like to go through platforms too often. especially out of shield stun.
but yes, platforms are key to standing any kind of chance against peach.
Or FoD. FoD is different because you try to trap peach on low platforms and abuse the disjointed hitboxes you have and whatnot. FoD is probably the best anti-peach stage for ICs. Then probably BF or dreamland. I don't like yoshis as much usually because I just feel like it's an excellent peach stage.
FD is absolute garbage and you should ban it no matter what.
Binx
Smash Master
DI down and away, if you smash DI it, its better but otherwise just hold down and away and you can buffer a roll if you feel like they will go for the grab anyways.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
down and away, buffer a roll or spotdodge.
depends on the character and which dthrow->dair cg it is (there are three)
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
You main ice climbers
john!
Smash Hero
with peach i usually get out of dthrow -> dair by holding up and nairing/airdodging. but maybe my opponents aren't doing it right...
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DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
no that's bec
dthrow->dair->regrab should never work on peach.
no peach can do that because peach can do whatever she wants to the ICs.
dthrow->dair->regrab should never work on peach.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
peach can still DI down and buffer roll or spotdodge->dsmash.
she can also DI up and away and nair, which is pretty safe.
If you do reverse dair, you can bair and hit her out of her escape DI, but a lot of peach players will mix in airdodges with their escapes, so you have to read it.
she can also DI up and away and nair, which is pretty safe.
If you do reverse dair, you can bair and hit her out of her escape DI, but a lot of peach players will mix in airdodges with their escapes, so you have to read it.
N1c2k3
Smash Lord
Against Peach you can dthrow, double jab with Nana, having the 2nd jab hit her as soon as she gets thrown. She shouldn't go barely anywhere at all. Seen at 5:08 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyZe0vvWrY8
I've never tested this on a human, but but looking at her hitstun animation if done right it looks like it could work...
I've never tested this on a human, but but looking at her hitstun animation if done right it looks like it could work...
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Alright, the videos have been uploaded. Check them out.
King Funk (Falco) vs Tomber (IC) (Winner's Quarterfinals)
Rocky (CF) vs Tomber (IC) (Winner's Semifinals)
Zoler (Fox) vs Tomber (IC) (Loser's Quarterfinals)
Tomber (IC) vs VJ (Yoshi) (Loser's Semifinals)
Rocky (CF) vs Tomber (IC) (Loser's Finals; Check out game 4)
Armada (Peach, Sheik) vs Rocky (CF) (Grand Finals)
King Funk (Falco) vs Tomber (IC) (Winner's Quarterfinals)
Rocky (CF) vs Tomber (IC) (Winner's Semifinals)
Zoler (Fox) vs Tomber (IC) (Loser's Quarterfinals)
Tomber (IC) vs VJ (Yoshi) (Loser's Semifinals)
Rocky (CF) vs Tomber (IC) (Loser's Finals; Check out game 4)
Armada (Peach, Sheik) vs Rocky (CF) (Grand Finals)
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
I use this a lot on less experienced players, but it's really easy to SDI out of.
@
Tomber
I'm looking forward to watching those videos later.
N1c2k3
Smash Lord
That's what I get for poking my head up every other year without playing humans. I'll crawl back to my cave now...
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Or just play people lol
STiCKYBULL3TZ
Smash Ace
Where would Sopo fall on the tier list?
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
depends on who you talk to.
I know that in ohio, most of us are under the impression that he's around the level of mario.
meanwhile, I know that all of pittsburgh thinks he's worse than roy.
I know that in ohio, most of us are under the impression that he's around the level of mario.
meanwhile, I know that all of pittsburgh thinks he's worse than roy.
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Wobbles needs to get his ass back on these forums and do some explaining.
Disappears for a year and comes back to smash with the SICKEST IC combos, getting 2nd or 3rd at every big tourny in Texas. And he doesn't wahbble anymore? Or is Texas like Ohio and just bans wahbbling
Disappears for a year and comes back to smash with the SICKEST IC combos, getting 2nd or 3rd at every big tourny in Texas. And he doesn't wahbble anymore? Or is Texas like Ohio and just bans wahbbling
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Ohio doesn't ban wobbling...
that's michigan
I think he said he's done wobbling in tournaments? But when I heard that I had to question it cus he also said he was retired. Idk, maybe he just wanted to prove that he's an insane player without wobbling.
EDIT: This is in reference to @
Psycho_Bayleef
's comment about Wobbles and his godliness.
EDIT: This is in reference to @
Psycho_Bayleef
's comment about Wobbles and his godliness.
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Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Thanks for the correction. Idk any of the rules outside of west coast, i just knew that somewhere mid-west ish banned wobbling. Partially because of you, no?
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Oh god this new tech. Mmmmmmmmmmph. I'm gonna save the explanation for Fly since he discovered it, but oh gosh SleepyK showed me and it leads into so many things.
it's a desynch
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
haha that's pittsburgh and ashtabula.
Peef is one of the main reasons it was banned in michigan, iirc.
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
TOs salty cause you wobbled em?
SleepyK
Banned via Administration
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standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Aerial sideB with popo (and nana too? I forget) gives an initial 1.7 momentum even though it caps it at 1.5 as soon as you move the stick. If you return the stick to neutral by frame 2 and don't move the stick until the move is over you will keep the constant 1.7 instead of capping at 1.5. The extra distance is very noticeable. It goes like an extra BF plat length. Not sure how useful or easily reproducible this is but I thought I might as well share it.
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Thanks PM dev team toaster.
Now i can squall hammer from off screen FoD to come back
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
it's super hard to do because as soon as you even touch the stick you get capped momentum haha
Psycho_Bayleef
Smash Apprentice
Any tech is good to know. It can't be harder than the new desynch
Does that include mashing B?
People learn samus super wavedash, this seems even easier since you just have to let go of the stick very fast
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
You can mash b during it and it won't cap it. Just don't touch the stick at all
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
Let's say I want to do this to recover high and keep drifting towards the stage as the move ends. At one point in the animation/transition to special fall should I start holding forward? I didn't really notice any difference doing this your way and the usual way in Dolphin (pressing B every other frame in both cases if that's significant at all), but I think that might be since I don't know when to start holding forward as the move is ending.
Dunkdimmedon
Smash Rookie
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I was experimenting with our little ****** friends and I noticed that when I hit with a synced D-smash I can immediately desync from that into blizzard or iceblock or charged smash etc, does anyone know why this works?
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DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
well one of them just hates it because his training partner used to get mad and go ICs and just wobble when he couldn't win when they were first starting out.
The other one just hates me as a person because Neoh/Pgh can be melodramatic and I'm vocal when I disagree with something in our region.
FlamingForce
Smash Journeyman
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a quick video to showcase Dsmash > nana ice block (give it some time to process)
I would really like to know the specifics behind how and why this works, the timing is on the tight side but I've been able to do dsmash into desynced ice blocks and blizzards, I was able to achieve the same results with synced ftilts and synced blizzard (synced blizzard being significantly easier to desync out of)
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