Brawl+ Official Codeset Gold Discussion

[Alphatron]

Such is the definition of Phantom Wings.

I forgot to mention that those 9 stages are also selectable via random as well. I don't remember it exactly, but they replace stages like 75m and such.

 

[smashmaniac2008]

is there a mac auto-updater?

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

You can't replace Rumble Falls with Wifi waiting room because the Rumble Fall effects would all still be included. You could replace Battlefield with WWR(probably) but why?

Simple method. Use this code by Phantom Wings.

Stage Roster Expansion System: v1.1
E0000000 80008000
04043B20 3800003A
04043B40 1C060018
04043B58 38840018
04949C8C 3884B460
04949D10 3884B460
04949E20 3884B460
04949EFC 3884B460
C294A588 00000003
A063001A 2C030040
41800008 38600000
60000000 00000000
C294A1D0 00000003
7C7D1B78 2C03FFFF
40820008 3FA0003F
60000000 00000000
04015564 48000010
2042AEB0 00000041
0442AEB0 00000000
80000000 8042AEB0
80000001 8042AEB0
60000030 00000000
8A001801 00000000
86000000 00000024
86000001 00000018
62000000 00000000
0042B34C 024B0000
80000000 8042B348
80000001 00000040
80000002 00000031
60000008 00000000
4A001000 00000000
94210001 00000000
16000004 00000010
73745F63 7573746F
6D002E72 656C0000
94010002 0000000D
86000000 00000018
86000001 00000001
86000002 00000001
62000000 00000000
80000000 8042BC18
80000001 8042B460
8A010001 00000000
0042BC18 010F0000
80000000 8042BC14
80000001 8042B560
80000002 00000031
60000008 00000000
4A001001 00000000
94210000 00000000
4A001000 00000000
16000000 00000008
43757374 6F6D3100
94010002 00000006
86000000 0000000C
86000001 00000004
86000002 00000001
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

Custom SSS:
046B8F5C 7C802378
046B8F64 7C6300AE
040AF618 5460083C
040AF68C 38840002
040AF6AC 5463083C
040AF6C0 88030001
040AF6E8 3860FFFF
040AF59C 3860000C
060B91C8 00000018
BFA10014 7CDF3378
7CBE2B78 7C7D1B78
2D05FFFF 418A0014
006B929C 0000001F
066B99D8 0000001F
00010203 04050709
080A0B0C 0D0E0F10
11141516 1A191217
0618131D 1E1B1C00
006B92A4 00000013
066B9A58 00000013
1F202122 25242326
27282A2B 2C2D2E2F
30313200 00000000
06407AAC 00000066
01010202 03030404
05050606 07070808
0909330A 0B0B0C0C
0D0D0E0E 130F1410
15111612 17131814
19151C16 1D171E18
1F19201A 211B221C
231D241E 251F2932
2A332B34 2C352D36
2F373038 3139323A
2E3BFFFF 40024101
42024301 44024501
46024701 48020000

Enable Random Expansion Stages v1.1
C26B7A6C 00000005
3860001F 2C120000
41820008 3860000A
7C101800 41800008
38000001 7C800379
60000000 00000000

9 additional stages that work without replacing anything. Replays work fine and do not clash with the SSS code, and the stages all use Battlefield's music instead of WWRs single track. I have WWR available online in this way actually.

There's also Maestro's SSS, but he seems to have dropped it.

Votes for inclusion of this in the final build.

 

[Jiiprah]

whats up with the left and right dodge? I have to press shield then left/right?

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

Isn't that what you always had to do?

 

[JCaesar]

whats up with the left and right dodge? I have to press shield then left/right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv7Q8A1C5rU

sorry I couldn't resist

 

[MK26]

ill have a custom sss soon enough...

 

[Jiiprah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv7Q8A1C5rU

sorry I couldn't resist

Before, I pressed them at the same time. Now I have to press shield then a direction. Its a noticeable difference.

 

[The Cape]

Andarel:

Send me a pm about the changelist and such.

Gonna look into the new snapshot deal, but yes the dash cancel code was removed due to it having unforseen issues.

 

[Revven]

Are the crash fixes for it still apart of the one put back in though? Or is it really the OLD one with the crashes that will still occur at the end of matches?

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

Yeah the snapshot certainly isn't working

 

[The Cape]

Put a snapshot in the second post. We will get it on the site soon enough.

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

Is that snap working, I dled it but everything feels all... floaty again

 

[GHNeko]

Snapshot is working fine for me. :3

 

[Isatis]

Angel, the updater checks for a group of files, and if the checksum doesn't match the one on the server list it replaces completely the one on your computer. That means custom GCTs and Common5 files will be completely lost. Battle portraits (InfFace###.brres) will not be.

The updater gets:
- RSBE01.gct
- Fighter/Character/FitCharacter.pac
- Fighter/Character/FitCharacterMotionEtc.pac
- Common3.pac
- Common5.pac (not sure if you can choose to not replace common5, I've never updated textures...)
- Strap_en.pac
- Whatever handles the menu.

Any file downloaded by the updater will overwrite completely any old file of the same name and in the same location. I'd recommend updating manually if you want to keep those things, at least for the GCT, and saving your common5 somewhere else and then overwriting B+'s if you have to.

There is no common5.pac with the downloads anymore since it made people freeze.

Let me work on uploading that snapshot...

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

INterested in peoples thoughts on Sheik + and Jiggly +. Sheik's f-tilt (I may be wrong as I alwyas may be) seems to knock people back further, making it a bit harder to combo. Jiggly seems to have increased aerial mobility or... something. Anyone else noticing this/has opinions?

 

[Revven]

Sheik's f-tilt (I may be wrong as I alwyas may be) seems to knock people back further, making it a bit harder to combo.

You must space it correctly in order to combo from it. Before, the main hitbox (not the tip) could lock people effortlessly (in Brawl) and then was changed so that the main hitbox didn't lock people but rather hit them away as intended while if you spaced the Ftilt correctly (by hitting with the tip of her foot) you were rewarded and thus, could combo off of Ftilt.

It's nothing new lol. Both of the things you posted have been that way for awhile. (Sheik's Ftilt even longer).

 

[God of Humility]

I know its been there for long, but, why were there changes to the elements on hit of some attacks.
Like rest dealing darkness damage, Wario's grab attack coin damage, Toon Link dair spike aura (this one puzzles me), Ganondorf's bair electric damage, and others I may not have noticed.

Is there a practical reason for this, or only aesthetics?

 

[yami_sora]

So Cape posted the snapshot I made in the second post, can anyone confirm it working and doing the stuff it should be doing?

 

[SymphonicSage12]

The Jigglypuff rest was originally fire, but because fire attacks do less KB to Squirtle and more to Ivysaur ( like elemental stuff), it was change to Dark to be neutral to both Squirtle and Ivysaur


EDIT: Just a small error with the updater...even if you say to NOT override your GCT, it still does...yeah

 

[goodoldganon]

I know its been there for long, but, why were there changes to the elements on hit of some attacks.
Like rest dealing darkness damage, Wario's grab attack coin damage, Toon Link dair spike aura (this one puzzles me), Ganondorf's bair electric damage, and others I may not have noticed.

Is there a practical reason for this, or only aesthetics?

Aesthetics. Wario's coin damage was taken from BB for the lulz. Y Link had a fire spike in melee so it was brought back, but Ivysaur still gets hit harder by fire and Squirtle hit weaker so we went with aura. See above for Darkness Rest. Basically, most are for aesthetics though some are the only way to balance out Pokemon weaknesses.

Is the auto updater freaking out for anyone else. I can usually update 3-4 characters at a time then it says my internet has a bad connection.

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

You must space it correctly in order to combo from it. Before, the main hitbox (not the tip) could lock people effortlessly (in Brawl) and then was changed so that the main hitbox didn't lock people but rather hit them away as intended while if you spaced the Ftilt correctly (by hitting with the tip of her foot) you were rewarded and thus, could combo off of Ftilt.

It's nothing new lol. Both of the things you posted have been that way for awhile. (Sheik's Ftilt even longer).

Then it must be psychosomatic, because I'm talking in terms of changes from GSH2, (with the snapshot recently posted) not changes from Vanilla Brawl.

 

[ValTroX]

There is no common5.pac with the downloads anymore since it made people freeze.

Let me work on uploading that snapshot...

I think I still have my common5 somewhere and I rarely get freezes. Anyways if it doesn't serve any purpose, should I delete it?
Also, my screen still says RC 5.0

 

[shapular]

Dear Cape,

Thanks for destroying the best thing you've ever done to Brawl+ (i.e., sliding dsmash). Also, SSE Jungle is a crappy stage and I would much rather play on Hyrule.

Love you,
shapular

 

[SymphonicSage12]

ignore this post...didn't mean to post it in this thread

 

[MyLifeIsAnRPG]

I will not ignore it sage. I will not!

As for the removal of sliding downsmash, I understand why. I would still like to see D-smashes able to be shortcutted from run. Any chance we might see something like this even with the current friction settings.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

You can already down smash straight out of run, even with the old dash cancel code (v2.1).


EDIT: wait, no you can't (TSON > ). You have to stop your dash brief, and then down on analog + a. nvm

 

[XSilvenX]

Guru and I were playing this set today and great job. I got thrown off a bit with the Marth not being able to double fair but it's all good. I understand why it was implemented. So far so good..hope this isn't considered as spam. Also, Guru likes Ivysaur a lot with the recent fixes.

 

[BEES]

so two things that I don't like about the codeset:

-the camera is too far out
-the lack of hitlag

they don't affect the gameplay so much, which I find quite enjoyable, they're more of an aesthetic taste

I'm actually quite pleased with this build. I was worried from the beta builds, but 6.0 seems like a solid codeset. The fastest, most balanced brawl+ so far.

 

[Jiiprah]

Ok, so Ive played around with it a bit and I must say that i like this codeset. I actually like the sliding around. It flows nicely and I like the faster feel over original Brawl. I haven't noticed anything that really bugs me yet besides the side dash.

BTW: The updater was too slow so I did it manually. I edited the main screen to say "Brawl+ Near Gold 6.0" myself and I'll probably edit some more images...infact I might just remodel the menu just for fun...or maybe I wont. I'm still trying to figure out how dantarionX made his menus red.

 

[MK26]

geez guys, running dsmash is so easy with the old code

run, tap down on control stick, release control stick at the same time as you tap down on cstick

 

[CloneHat]

geez guys, running dsmash is so easy with the old code

run, tap down on control stick, release control stick at the same time as you tap down on cstick

Or quarter-circle+A to do it virtually instantly.

 

[ValTroX]

I think I still have my common5 somewhere and I rarely get freezes. Anyways if it doesn't serve any purpose, should I delete it?
Also, my screen still says RC 5.0

Someone help?

 

[RiteToRmnSilent]

Anyone else feel like marth's fair was slowed down even more? Also it feels like Bowsers bthrow got nerfed a little more again, but then again this is all at a first glance. Any thoughts?

Edit: Was Meta's tornado ending lag cut a little!? If so then thank god, the move finally feels like it has a purpose. I could be wrong because I barely used that move in the last few beta's. If anyone else thinks so please let me know so I don't feel like an idiot.

 

[Team Giza]

I still haven't downloaded it yet. Have the final smash freezes been fixed in this version? Will they be fixed in the final?

 

[Alphatron]

I still haven't downloaded it yet. Have the final smash freezes been fixed in this version? Will they be fixed in the final?

Yes, MK, Falcon, and everyone else's final smash works swimmingly.


And yeah. MK's tornado endlag was toned down. He also has transcendant priority on it now, which I love.

 

[RiteToRmnSilent]

Yes, MK, Falcon, and everyone else's final smash works swimmingly.


And yeah. MK's tornado endlag was toned down. He also has transcendant priority on it now, which I love.

Sweet finally everyones final smashes work...and that is some of the best news ive ever heard. MK needed his tornado fixed up a little. I still can't help but feel like Marth's fair is slower....not by much, a very small amount...maybe im going crazy. The sets amazing from what I can tell so far either way. All my characters feel great, really spot on for the most part. Except PS2 isn't frozen anymore? At least for me it isn't, i should probably redownload the gct.

Edit: One more change im wondering about, Luigi utilt, more knockback? Certainly seems like it. Seems like a half combo half kill move sort of move now, except you wont get kills until like 140% or so. Again, this is a first glance. It always seems like theres little nerfs here and there with Luigi in every set, maybe people are realizing the awesome power of Luigi? Also fellow Charizard users be warned, it seems neutral b now has startup lag even if we jump right before we use it.

Haha never mind about the marth fair thing, im pretty sure it wasn't changed, I forgot my buffer...

 

[Plum]

Edit: Was Meta's tornado ending lag cut a little!? If so then thank god, the move finally feels like it has a purpose. I could be wrong because I barely used that move in the last few beta's. If anyone else thinks so please let me know so I don't feel like an idiot.

T'was.

Endlag was cut; it was a horrible move the way it was, basically unsafe on shield and hit with so much lag.

To compensate, the move was given transcendent priority making it MUCH easier to hit MK out of the move. Every projectile in the game, and any move with a decent hitbox will knock him out if he uses it from a distance, and its still fully possible to shield the move and punish the endlag if he uses it close up.

Glad somebody noticed the change, because I love it myself. I use MK all the time in friendlies and it felt just wrong to have tornado always be the worst option. Now its a use at your own risk type move, because a smart player will punish it, but the lag cut makes it a good mixup.

 

[[TSON]]

Sliding dsmash was a good change... I don't see why it was removed.

EDIT:...And now I do! ._.
The traction wasn't THAT bad.

 

[The World Warrior]

I think I still have my common5 somewhere and I rarely get freezes. Anyways if it doesn't serve any purpose, should I delete it?
Also, my screen still says RC 5.0

Yeah I noticed that as well. Any particular reason for this? What does it mean?