ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[Moira]

*facepalm*

I know I said sooner rather than later guys, but seriously?

Whatever the damage is done. Mafia, please do not NK us if Ryu flips town. If he flips mafia, please kill me to put me out of my misery.

 

[No Lynch]

Vote: Red Ryu

Watt is lying, I was told by the mod watcher was a safe claim, so either the mod messed up or he is a mafia watcher himself.


Btw there are two scum teams, go scum.

tl;dr zen sucks

 

[ranmaru]

Red Ryu scum = NL scum = Moira Scum.

Moira is my other read I intend to solidify. But that's who I think is the third scum before night hits.

 

[Moira]

Vote: Red Ryu

Watt is lying, I was told by the mod watcher was a safe claim, so either the mod messed up or he is a mafia watcher himself.


Btw there are two scum teams, go scum.

What

Oh god, am I in a similar set-up of my Catherine Mafia?

Oh dear.

 

[No Lynch]

Red Ryu scum = NL scum = Moira Scum.

Moira is my other read I intend to solidify. But that's who I think is the third scum before night hits.

you are really dumb this game and still holding to scumreading our slot for dumb reasons lmao

 

[#HBC | Mac]

HAHAH word two scum teams? that's so ill -- now i can go straight back to seeing rake as scum

*** gheb outta here tmrw

 

[No Lynch]

wait shouldnt we lynch watt tommorow tho

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Duuuude if there are 2 scum teams then this makes things WAY more interesting. That also means no chance of there being more than 3 men per team I HOPE that's obvious.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

yea... trooooo

but gheb tho

 

[No Lynch]

oh gosh this game

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Yea RIGHT should we lynch watt toMorrow pfft are we just gonna take the scum bag's word that the mod confirmed that watcher was a viable safe claim?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh wait no, it could also just be a ploy by red ryu to get us to lynch our watcher????

tbh i'm not really seeing it like that, but something to consider

 

[No Lynch]

Yea RIGHT should we lynch watt toMorrow pfft are we just gonna take the scum bag's word that the mod confirmed that watcher was a viable safe claim?

i dont see why he wouldn't try and make the other scum-team lose, kinda like what you did in fire and lightning that one time

 

[Moira]

It's more than likely 2 v 2.

I cannot wait to re-read during the night with this information.

However, we should be able to figure out if Ryu is telling the truth after DH posts his flip.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I think it's far fetched for Ruy's team to have confirmation that there's two teams. 2 man team, sure, that's basically confirmed at this point. But I think Ruy's mate gains from having Ruy focus the Day play on WATT's watcher claim.

 

[Moira]

Fire vs. Lightning set-ups always let the game know there is another scum-team. Also in Catherine Mafia the scum-teams knew there were two independent teams, but town did not until the flips.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

EBWOP

A 2 man team*

But this is the conspiracy theorist in me speaking and I'm not sure what to make of this atm. Either way it's quite juicy, and personally I DOUBT that both scumbags from individual teams would feel confident claiming watcher.

 

[Moira]

Oh my, if Ryu is telling the truth, Gheb looks atrocious by trying to say "Neither Ryu and WATT" are clear from the other flipping scum.

Yeah, totally on board with straight up ****ing Gheb outta here toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

he didn't claim to be mod confirmed of two scum teams, just mod confirmed that watcher is a safe role claim

but yea, he is a scumbag and we should probably take what he's saying with a grain of salt...

out of game: if he's telling the truth, that's pretty petty of ryu to try and **** over the other team like that

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Fire vs. Lightning set-ups always let the game know there is another scum-team. Also in Catherine Mafia the scum-teams knew there were two independent teams, but town did not until the flips.

Okay, that makes sense. In celeb rehab what set the teams a part was that it was jersey shore team and kardashian team. They didn't have the mod confirmed info.

 

[No Lynch]

hmm,,

I think it's far fetched for Ruy's team to have confirmation that there's two teams. 2 man team, sure, that's basically confirmed at this point. But I think Ruy's mate gains from having Ruy focus the Day play on WATT's watcher claim.

Does this not benefit us as well?

 

[No Lynch]

it's pretty ingenious actually, but i think a main thing i think should also be discussed if joey would hard town-read his partner like that

im leaning on no at the moment

@ #HBC | Gorf

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

he didn't claim to be mod confirmed of two scum teams, just mod confirmed that watcher is a safe role claim

but yea, he is a scumbag and we should probably take what he's saying with a grain of salt...

out of game: if he's telling the truth, that's pretty petty of ryu to try and **** over the other team like that

Out of game: Ehh, in F&L and F&L2 when I rolled scum I preferred town to win over the other scum cuz it would feel like they did something I couldn't. I get the motivation lol.

But still he IS a scumbag and SHOULDN'T just be simply listened to. Flips tell all

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Oh my, if Ryu is telling the truth, Gheb looks atrocious by trying to say "Neither Ryu and WATT" are clear from the other flipping scum.

Yeah, totally on board with straight up ****ing Gheb outta here toMorrow.

yessssss

but actually i don't get this logic...? would watt and ryu be on one team and gheb on the other team? or is gheb one on of their teams and trying to put the other up for a lynch the next day? Wouldn't that guarantee that his partner gets killed? Unless he expected that ryu (gheb's partner) was gonna get lynched and he wanted to make sure watt got lynched too...

but then wouldn't that statement also be letting town know that their was two factions, and wouldn't that not be in ghebs interest to try to imply

 

[Moira]

I agree with Gorf, @ #HBC | Mac , because I do not think it is petty. I think it's playing towards his win-con and screwing over the other scum-team is more than acceptable to his team.

 

[Circus]

EBWOP

A 2 man team*

But this is the conspiracy theorist in me speaking and I'm not sure what to make of this atm. Either way it's quite juicy, and personally I DOUBT that both scumbags from individual teams would feel confident claiming watcher.

Truth be told, if there are two scum teams and they were both told that Watcher is safe to claim, that's kind of ****ed up on DH's part. Telling two different factions, even if they're both scum factions, that something is safe to claim actually makes it unsafe.

Regardless, WATT doesn't necessarily go down toMorrow, assuming he survives the Night, but he def doesn't go to endgame. That would be obvious even without the Red Ryu revelation, since if a D1 Watcher claim doesn't get scum's sights set on you, it basically guarantees you are scum.

Gheb beating the "WATT could be scum too!" drum definitely looks fishier now, though he doesn't make a lot of sense as Ryu's or WATT's mate, given what Ryu just did.

 

[Circus]

ninja'd by mac

 

[Moira]

Gheb would more than likely be the buddy of one of WATT/Ryu and trying to gain credit on the flip of their being two teams. Duh, silly. Still need to see things flip and the like.

 

[Moira]

WATT is never going to be NK'd.

$0.02

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@ Moira @ #HBC | Gorf aiight i feel that

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

it's pretty ingenious actually, but i think a main thing i think should also be discussed if joey would hard town-read his partner like that

im leaning on no at the moment

@ #HBC | Gorf

Yea I agree with this sentiment, the attention paid to Ruy by Joey tells me they ain't scum together.

hmm,,

Does this not benefit us as well?

Just if he's telling the truth. I think it'd be fair if the mod confirmed that there was an error (@ #HBC | Dark Horse ) but I don't quite expect em to. If Ruy is lying and just fake claimed dat shiz then he's taking the heat off of his partner and making us focus hardcore energy on what may just be our town watcher.

 

[No Lynch]

honestly with this flip i do not like ran and think he is being too dense to not actually consider to have ill intent, he hardly has contributed to either lynch here and has held to own his own reads but they're just so bad i can't seriously tell if that's what he actually believes me

feel me

 

[Moira]

Ya know whenever there is a watcher in the game, the game is infinitely more fun.

Isn't that right @Rockin? (Inception Mafia ;P)

 

[No Lynch]

ebwop: shoulda read but still ran is a jerk and stinks and i will still be looking at him but his #753 is pretty telling on scumryu

 

[Circus]

Gheb would more than likely be the buddy of one of WATT/Ryu and trying to gain credit on the flip of their being two teams. Duh, silly. Still need to see things flip and the like.

But if he's Ryu's mate, then Ryu just ****ed him over by letting the cat out of the bag.

If he's WATT's mate, then he has been actively trying to bus his partner who would have basically been taken as a clear were it not for Ryu's post-lynch statements. Maybe he's just really trying to keep his **** covered, but it's a little awkward to me.

Not saying Gheb's off the table or anything. Far from it. Just something about this piece of the puzzle doesn't looks like it fits just right yet.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ok moira... logic is still a lil iffy, but i think it could make sense if gheb is ryu's partner and he figured ryu was definitely gonna get lynched and he was going the bussing route while gaining credit for 2 mafia lynches.

tho like circus said, red ryu must have ****ed up or something if he is gheb's partner

 

[Circus]

...puzzle doesn't looks like it fits just right yet.

 

[No Lynch]

how did this thread get to near 1000 posts in d1 this is gonna be one of those long-ass games just pretend i read because i feel like ill end up with rajam trying to catch up with this constant posting spree and im not helping much here am i

 

[Moira]

Gheb always busses his partners to holy hell. Like he picks one and just distances like crazy. (Rake/Kanty/Gheb scum-team game, uh Tranquility) and personal experience of Mafia Royal Sleepover (remember, the bussing is what you cleared me on from Gheb's flip). I am not saying it is dead-set fact, but it is within the realm of possibility.

Plus Gheb could be on a scum-team with someone else and WATT isn't even scum. Gheb could even be Ryu's partner and tried giving Gheb some more ammo for town-points but it backfired. There are so many different avenues.

But we have to wait haha.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gheb fits more as Ruy's partner imo and it makes more sense that Ruy unintentionally ****ed Gheb over.

Btw I think that if Gheb flips Ruy's mate that even more solidifies the fact that there WAS a mod error with how insistent he was the IF RUY FLIPS DON'T TAKE WATT OFF THE TABLE. From scumGheb's perspective, he's supporting the lynching of two scumbags right then and there!