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[Cress!]

reaper and mccree buffed, hog nerfed

new map is on the moon and it's a 2cp map

U forgot about the best new thing, ANTI-GRAV
But seriously this mode is amazing, it feels so refreshing as well.

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Finally got to cleaning my room, feels good to get that done. Also, tomorrow my sister will be visting for a couple of days.

Hopefully I'll get to show her Ghost Stories, since I told her about it over the phone. That is if she'll be interested in watching it. :V

Also, give us the Pyro Update soon Valve!

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Berserker.]

U forgot about the best new thing, ANTI-GRAV
But seriously this mode is amazing, it feels so refreshing as well.

i love the anti-grav. like really, i do

i just hate 2cp as a mode in general. too much bull**** from 2nd point delays. FUN AND INTERACTIVE GAMEPLAY

 

[Y2Kay]

I'm suprised nobody is talking about those disappointing MvCI leaks

no black panther??? why?

 

[EODM07]

I'm suprised nobody is talking about those disappointing MvCI leaks

no black panther??? why?

I feel like the MvCI roster so far is very weak. Weakest out of the entire series.

If Phoenix Wright was there, I'd be all for getting the game. But alas, I'll be waiting or just watch the competitive scene of the game.

 

[Lorde]

Lorde released a new song from Melodrama today

This one is called Perfect Places and it's the final track on the album

It's amazing and I adore it

The 16th can't come quickly enough

Spoiler

 

[Ffamran]

This is the bride we need, but don't deserve.

Spoiler: Such perfection!

Anyway, down to 197/200 units after spare 3* Est got enough SP for Dragon Fang and her default skills except for Shove which I learned anyway for quest Est. After Camus's GHB, I'll be back up to 199/200 units... Yay... I should just merge 1* Gunter and Lissa to their 2* selves and level them up in case I really need to fall back on 3* unit strategies with them for future stuff. Same deal with Xander since not being able to access his other skills at 4* kind of sucks. Meanwhile, all these Navarres who are just here. I'm at a point where I might level them all up and make a defense team with 4 Navarres just because I can.

 

[Lil Puddin]

I am both these gorls:

This is the bride we need, but don't deserve.

Spoiler: Such perfection!

Anyway, down to 197/200 units after spare 3* Est got enough SP for Dragon Fang and her default skills except for Shove which I learned anyway for quest Est. After Camus's GHB, I'll be back up to 199/200 units... Yay... I should just merge 1* Gunter and Lissa to their 2* selves and level them up in case I really need to fall back on 3* unit strategies with them for future stuff. Same deal with Xander since not being able to access his other skills at 4* kind of sucks. Meanwhile, all these Navarres who are just here. I'm at a point where I might level them all up and make a defense team with 4 Navarres just because I can.

Chrom makes anything look manly, tbh. He's basically the bro-dude version of Ike, except unlike a total bro-dude, he's actually tolerable and a qtpie sometimes.

 

[Y2Kay]

I got a 4 star Rhein (+HP - Res) should I invest him or save him a Desperation fodder? (I already have Ursula)

Also Horse emblem is about to get NUTTY once we get Camus.

 

[Lorde]

Reinhardt is one of the best units in the game. He absolutely murders like all non-green units with horse buffs, and even then, he beats some greens. There's a reason why he's ubiquitous

However, he's absolute garbage without Dire Thunder, so only use him if you're going to promote him to 5*

If you don't want to invest the 20k feathers, then don't bother training him up

And btw, Reinhardt has Vantage, not Desperation

 

[Y2Kay]

Reinhardt is one of the best units in the game. He absolutely murders like all non-green units with horse buffs, and even then, he beats some greens. There's a reason why he's ubiquitous

However, he's absolute garbage without Dire Thunder, so only use him if you're going to promote him to 5*

If you don't want to invest the 20k feathers, then don't bother training him up

And btw, Reinhardt has Vantage, not Desperation

I've been saving up my feathers for my Xander to go to 5 star. Considering thathe doesn't have the greatest nature, and Xander and Camus will probs take priority of an iffy natured rhein, I'll put him on ice for now.

 

[Ffamran]

However, he's absolute garbage without Dire Thunder, so only use him if you're going to promote him to 5*

Or without Blarblade+.

Spoiler: Cross Counter!

A +Atk 5* Reinhardt running Blarblade+ with full cavalry buffs, Close Counter, and his default Vantage gets 117 wins, 17 losses, and 0 draws at 1 HP against everyone without Fury 3. At full HP, he gets 119 wins, 3 losses, and 12 draws.

Cecilia is the only other mounted mage with the same attack as him, but being green means her results aren't as good, especially at Vantage's range. Full HP +Atk Cecilia running the same setup only gets 105 wins, 13 losses, and 16 draws. At 1 HP, she drops to 99 wins, 34 losses, and 1 draw.

Leo is even worse since his wins don't change, but his losses do. If +Atk, he gets 96 wins, 14 losses, and 24 draws at full HP while at 1 HP, he gets 96 wins, 36 losses, and 2 draws. I just realized that Leo is the slowest of the mounted mages. Reinhardt is faster than him by 1 point.

+Atk Olwen and Ursula get around or above Cecilia's results. Same with Spring Camilla.

The issue of doing this is that you'd have to spend around 42k feathers to get Odin up from 3* to 5* and Reinhardt to 5* if you didn't summon a 5* Reinhardt and one Hector for Close Counter. For the others, it costs even more since none of them have Vantage, so, that could cost you an additional 2k feathers if you never summoned a 4* Lon'qu or a 4* Reinhardt.

 

[Cress!]

A +Atk 5* Reinhardt running Blarblade+ with full cavalry buffs, Close Counter, and his default Vantage

What kind of set even is that

Ursula and Olwen are much better Blarblade choices than Rein. Rein is amazing because of his tome, so taking that away hurts him HARD. Plus you're investing way more into him than you need. The only thing he needs to inherit is Death Blow but everything else is pretty okay. You could slap on a better special and an assist, maybe a better B skill but his base set is already solid.

With Fortify and Hone Cavalry buffs, Blarblade+, neutral natures, and no passive skills:
Rein: 112 wins/2 losses/20 draws
Olwen: 123 wins/2 losses/9 draws
Ursula: 126 wins/2 losses/6 draws

And Olwen with Cavalry buffs is still decent with Dire Thunder as well, if you build her to quad units. Not quite as good as Blarblade+, but it's still an option, and she doesn't need to be with a team to do well.

Anyways the damage calc got updated and it looks really nice now.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Yea, keep Rein as Rein. He's amazing out the box in a meta shaping way. Which kind of sucks, but is kinda cool too since he can be obtained as a 4 Star now. He's pretty too, so he's a S Tier Magical Gorl Husbando for sure.

You give Blade Tome to speedy units (we're talking 32 neutral speed or higher), since speedy units usually have so-so offenses. (25ish to 30ish base ATK). With how broken Blade Tomes are, you'd just give them +3 ATK/+4 SPD/+2 RES and let them go on their merry way. A ridiculous example being +SPD Waifu Caeda, who reaches 40 SPD. Even though her ATK is so-so, a Blade Tome boosts her to DUMBDICULOUS proportions. My -ATK Caeda takes no prisoners. The gorl is as ruthless as she is fancy. Pls save the non-gorls by banning this dangerous bridal gorl.


Anyway! I decided on my Charlotte's build. I'm keeping her weapon and giving her Vantage/Fury. I like the idea of her being able to royally screw over any non-gorl trying to attack her. If she dies, she'll leave the enemy in a "will die to anything" state with her massive ATK. I can probably run Draconic Aura since a buffed Charlotte will deal about 16 DMG extra that won't be diminished by the triangle - so she'll even leave axe users with nasty scars. Besides, for Luna to be better she'd have to be attacking someone with 36 DEF or more.

As for Waifu Cordeila, I am still unsure. I have a +ATK/-HP and a +SPD/-RES Cordelia. I really wish I had Firesweep but that's impossible to get without a Faye Focus. I really hate running these Brave Weapon gorls only because it lacks variety. Desperation is pretty bad since it would take a turn to activate (either get hit by a weak attack or pass off some HP). I suppose I will keep her Cupid Bow and try to make that work, somehow.

 

[Berserker.]

I'm suprised nobody is talking about those disappointing MvCI leaks

no black panther??? why?

everything about the game looks ugly so far

seriously, what have they done to chris????

 

[Ffamran]

What kind of set even is that

The kind of set that shows how busted -blade tomes are and that Reinhardt pretty much gives everything a big middle finger. Seriously, being able to counter kill ~90% of the damn cast because they attacked you despite being on the verge of death? I hate Takumi, but even he can't manage that with Vantage.

I've ranted about -blade tomes on Serene's Forest already. The gist of it is this: -blade tomes have the same MT as "Silver" tomes like Rexcalibur+ and Thoron+, but they also get massive damage bonuses on top of it. The penalty? +1 special cooldown. Yeah, like a special matters when you obliterate everything. -blade tomes shouldn't have been 9/13 MT tomes. Meanwhile, -wolf tomes being 6/10 MT. And they probably should have had a bonus cap or only took half the bonuses which even still, probably wouldn't stop them from being powerful.

Anyway, if you're in a situation where you missed getting Ursula and didn't get Olwen, dumping Blarblade+ onto Reinhardt wouldn't be that bad of an idea since you'd effectively give the best tome to one of the best units in the game who also has one of the other best tomes.

With how easy and powerful -blade times can get for cavalry mages, it's still not a bad idea even if you had Linde since the game basically gives you half of what you need to get +24 damage through Gunter. Linde can double and destroy units; Reinhardt just destroys.

 

[Benishigure]

Spoiler

HORSE EMBLEM HEAUX #4 IS HERE bye Cecilia

Pretty easy map for me, beat it on the first try. Would do a write-up as usual (missed Lloyd's but who cares because that map was piss easy) although I did use my current Horse Emblem team to clear it, so I don't know how much it will help.

 

[Cress!]

Pretty easy map for me, beat it on the first try.

How was it easy when there's 2 WHOLE ENEMIES WITH PASS??? I'M TOO TRAUMATIZED BY NOT 1, BUT 2 UNITS USING THIS OP SKILL THAT I CAN'T EVEN LOAD UP THE MAP IN FEAR Seriously who gave them Pass lmao

 

[Benishigure]

How was it easy when there's 2 WHOLE ENEMIES WITH PASS??? I'M TOO TRAUMATIZED BY NOT 1, BUT 2 UNITS USING THIS OP SKILL THAT I CAN'T EVEN LOAD UP THE MAP IN FEAR Seriously who gave them Pass lmao

I would have freaked out more if the axe cavs had Wings of Mercy instead. (only the troubadour has it.... praise be)

I used a buffed Titania and put her in the range of Camus and the left axe cav. Once Camus was dead I moved her out and pretty much let Xander do the rest, and healed him up with Reciprocal Aid from Cecilia since he took quite a number from the red mage.

I think that's the gist of my strategy. Honestly I didn't put a lot of thought into it because Horse Emblem tends to trivialise a lot of things.

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Going to be picking up my sister from the station today. Or try to go with my Dad, it'll be nice to see her again after so long.

And since we briefly talked about Infinite. What characters were you hoping to appear in the base roster that was leaked Y2Kay ? Again, I would've loved to see Wright return, but if its this way. I'll just stick to watching competitive.

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Lorde]

The Battling Camus banner isn't bad

I might end up summoning for Olwen and possibly Fae

 

[Burgundy]

Oogh
It took me a bunch of tries but I managed to make Bunny Camilla, Marth, Young Tiki, and Sharena work on the Camus map
Getting him and a 5 Star Cecilia so close together has made me wanna start a horse emblem team. But idk whether to use Camus or Ursula

 

[Ffamran]

How was it easy when there's 2 WHOLE ENEMIES WITH PASS??? I'M TOO TRAUMATIZED BY NOT 1, BUT 2 UNITS USING THIS OP SKILL THAT I CAN'T EVEN LOAD UP THE MAP IN FEAR Seriously who gave them Pass lmao

And they have Grani's Shield and Ward Cavalry too.

The Pass thing I was wondering when it would show up since in training tower, I've encountered Gunter with Pass several times. If you can't kill him or don't have a red magic unit, he will mess up your other units. Perfect way to ruin someone's day for a GHB.

Anyway, I cheesed and brute forces the map with Ursula with a -blade tome. Frederick with Fortify Cavalry, Gunter, and Olivia are such good cheerleaders.

I did not think to actually bait the healer by using a flyer on the mountains. That would been so much easier than starting the map by blasting Camus with Ursula and running away.

 

[Y2Kay]

everything about the game looks ugly so far

seriously, what have they done to chris????

Morrigan's face and Chun Li's face are tragic too. That Hyper Bar Meter is so tiny it's depressing. The graphics aren't bad, bot they feel so uninspired when compared to mvc3's really cool art style that made the characters pop like a real comic book characters. It really pisses me off that they had paid DLC already planned, and they KNEW they had a trashy starting roster like this.

If things like this don't change, I'm honestly hoping umvc3 still has a scene, because I much more satisfied in that game even with its balance issues.

 

[Ffamran]

10 hours later... Sound design is awesome!

No, seriously, it really is awesome. Some of the stuff sound designers do to make sounds for films and games range from using the obvious to getting a bunch of sounds together that might not make sense and mixing them to create a sound that does or seems right. Some of the stuff might even be "fake" like synthesized helicopter propellers. Talking about this since apparently Nintendo posted a blog about BotW's sound design and Nintendo Everything posted an article about it: http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-dev-on-recording-the-games-sound-effects/.

 

[EODM07]

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

About to have my lunch and a new video on TF2 was posted by VNN. How the vinyl record holds a hint to the Jungle Update, it's an audio file of amibent sounds and animal noises. Sounds really nice.

Will eventually check out the next episode of My Hero Academia as well.

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Lorde]

My Bridal Charlotte is +atk-spd, so should I do a brave lance build? I have a 5* Cordelia with bad IVs, so I could immediately give her the Brave Lance+

Or should I just do a Wind Boost build because she still hits 35 spd with that

 

[Antonykun]

Im finally home! Blessed be my house and my workspace.

 

[Burgundy]

Im finally home! Blessed be my house and my workspace.

Welcome back


I did another summon in Heroes on the Camus banner, nothing special but I did get a +Atk/-Def 4 Star Klein which is cool

 

[Lil Puddin]

My Bridal Charlotte is +atk-spd, so should I do a brave lance build? I have a 5* Cordelia with bad IVs, so I could immediately give her the Brave Lance+

Or should I just do a Wind Boost build because she still hits 35 spd with that

imo just give her Deathblow so she can 1 RKO everything important. She'll be an infantry Abel, basically.

Welcome back


I did another summon in Heroes on the Camus banner, nothing special but I did get a +Atk/-Def 4 Star Klein which is cool

Praise be to Klein, the best 4 Star fodder to get.

 

[EODM07]

Ayy. New DYKGaming video on Brawl.

 

[Cress!]

Original Disney sass queen is back
The show may be awful but new sassT Raven gifs are coming back, this time in HD!

 

[Lil Puddin]

tbh anyone who doesn't want to have McCree as a husbando probably has something wrong with them.

Ayy. New DYKGaming video on Brawl.

wow what a new topic amirite

Original Disney sass queen is back
The show may be awful but new sassT Raven gifs are coming back, this time in HD!

Even tho she can see the future, she can't see how bad the continuation is.... That's just... That's... That's so Raven!

Can I have a Kim Possible reboot tho?

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Been watching some clips of Sonic Boom. And I can see why Lil Puddin likes it.
So self aware and just shattering the 4th wall.

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Buddhahobo]

I'm suprised nobody is talking about those disappointing MvCI leaks

no black panther??? why?

Eh, lack of someone like Black Panther really isn't what makes those leaks disappointing. It does make some sense that they'd release characters that have their own stand-alone feature length films coming out at around the same time as the movie (i.e., Black Panther and Venom), so I'm not really concerned about those characters because we know it's going to get better, excluding the X-men characters whose absence hurts me on a fundamental level. Like, what even is a Marvel vs game without Storm and Magneto?

It's the Capcom side that's majorly disappointing, imo, (because at least on the Marvel side I can optimistically rationalize that "x" character will come out with their movie). Both in terms of roster and looks. Like, the new characters look really good to be honest; X is super shiny, and Captain Marvel on the Marvel side is gorgeous....but then we have them standing next to Ryu and Chun-Li.

It's like they're renders from entirely different games.

What really confuses me is that the neogaf user who leaked the roster was the same one that a few months ago told everyone that we didn't have to worry about the roster.

Morrigan's face and Chun Li's face are tragic too. That Hyper Bar Meter is so tiny it's depressing. The graphics aren't bad, bot they feel so uninspired when compared to mvc3's really cool art style that made the characters pop like a real comic book characters. It really pisses me off that they had paid DLC already planned, and they KNEW they had a trashy starting roster like this.

If things like this don't change, I'm honestly hoping umvc3 still has a scene, because I much more satisfied in that game even with its balance issues.

I think that's one of the reasons I don't really care that much about all the elements that I don't like about MvCI. Infinite can be nothing more than a massive disappointing cash grab, but it's a cash grab that gave us UMvC3 on PC. I can always just play the better game if Infinite never ends up looking better than a poor looking mobile game half made by the Disney Infinite (as in, their disney amiibo game) team.

Like, the UI can be revamped completely, and it's been shown that just changing the color saturation and B/W contrasts make the game look a whole lot better lighting wise, but I might just never pick this game up if this is how it's going to be. Not with Tekken 7 finally out and Steam versions of so many other fighting games like Rev2 and KoF.

I would have freaked out more if the axe cavs had Wings of Mercy instead. (only the troubadour has it.... praise be)

I used a buffed Titania and put her in the range of Camus and the left axe cav. Once Camus was dead I moved her out and pretty much let Xander do the rest, and healed him up with Reciprocal Aid from Cecilia since he took quite a number from the red mage.

I think that's the gist of my strategy. Honestly I didn't put a lot of thought into it because Horse Emblem tends to trivialise a lot of things.

I used Bunny Camilla to bait the Healer and Camus to come down to the left path, then took out Camus with a combine hit by Narcian and Camilla. Brought up Roy to hit the Healer and danced Bunny Camilla to finish off the healer's 1 HP from safety.

Then it was just tanking and killing the Red Mage and two axe users with Roy.

Original Disney sass queen is back
The show may be awful but new sassT Raven gifs are coming back, this time in HD!

Huh. They must have really liked Girl Meets World to immediately green-lit another one like it so soon after it's cancellation.

 

[Lorde]

I think I'm going to make a discount armor emblem team

I already have a Zephiel with Distant Counter (whom I will promote to 5* once I'm home) and I pulled another Effie I can use to give Sheena Wary Fighter

I don't have any other Hectors to use as DC fodder tho

The team I have in mind is Hector/Zephiel/Effie/Sheena

 

[Ffamran]

I think I'm going to make a discount armor emblem team

I already have a Zephiel with Distant Counter (whom I will promote to 5* once I'm home) and I pulled another Effie I can use to give Sheena Wary Fighter

I don't have any other Hectors to use as DC fodder tho

The team I have in mind is Hector/Zephiel/Effie/Sheena

If you have a lot of spare Draugs, then use him for Ward Armor on everyone. Especially considering you only have 2 units who have Distant Counter so that ranged units don't become the bane of your existence. +12 to defense and resistance is pretty good considering that knights don't move far or far away from each other.

Personally, I'd rather give Sheena Quick Riposte than Wary Fighter. She's not that slow that she wants it to prevent getting doubled by units, but she's also slow enough that she won't double many units. Her bulk is probably the best except for HP. Neutral Sheena has 45 HP, 36 defense, and 33 resistance. The only unit I think can top that is not in the game: Benny who would probably have something like 51 HP, 40 defense, and 30 resistance at the cost of having 30 attack and 16 speed. Anyway, runner-up would be Gwendolyn with 49 HP, 38 defense, and 28 resistance.

Sheena comes with Killer Axe by default, so all you really need to do is give her Bonfire and Quick Riposte and she'd be set to run the Wall of Fire and Sharp Things build. Distant Counter means she'll likely destroy any ranged unit, especially squishy ones.

 

[Lorde]

If you have a lot of spare Draugs, then use him for Ward Armor on everyone. Especially considering you only have 2 units who have Distant Counter so that ranged units don't become the bane of your existence. +12 to defense and resistance is pretty good considering that knights don't move far or far away from each other.

Personally, I'd rather give Sheena Quick Riposte than Wary Fighter. She's not that slow that she wants it to prevent getting doubled by units, but she's also slow enough that she won't double many units. Her bulk is probably the best except for HP. Neutral Sheena has 45 HP, 36 defense, and 33 resistance. The only unit I think can top that is not in the game: Benny who would probably have something like 51 HP, 40 defense, and 30 resistance at the cost of having 30 attack and 16 speed. Anyway, runner-up would be Gwendolyn with 49 HP, 38 defense, and 28 resistance.

Sheena comes with Killer Axe by default, so all you really need to do is give her Bonfire and Quick Riposte and she'd be set to run the Wall of Fire and Sharp Things build. Distant Counter means she'll likely destroy any ranged unit, especially squishy ones.

My Sheena is +res -spd, meaning she'll only hit 22 spd at 5* lvl 40. I'm definitely going to put Wary Fighter on her because she's really slow. I need her to be my super sturdy wall, so the +res nature helps deal with the mages that the rest of my team struggles with. Idk if I should give her Ignis or Bonfire. Killer Axe drops Ignis down to 3 cooldown, which is pretty decent. Bonfire might be better though, since it'd only have 2 cooldown and could activate more frequently.

Also, Tier 17 is crazy. I had a deathless run with my horse emblem team + olivia for bonus points and scored 4,714. I'm currently 13,958 in the tier and I'm only going to drop from there. I'm starting to hit whale territory and it's scary.

 

[Ffamran]

My Sheena is +res -spd, meaning she'll only hit 22 spd at 5* lvl 40. I'm definitely going to put Wary Fighter on her because she's really slow. I need her to be my super sturdy wall, so the +res nature helps deal with the mages that the rest of my team struggles with. Idk if I should give her Ignis or Bonfire. Killer Axe drops Ignis down to 3 cooldown, which is pretty decent. Bonfire might be better though, since it'd only have 2 cooldown and could activate more frequently.

Also, Tier 17 is crazy. I had a deathless run with my horse emblem team + olivia for bonus points and scored 4,714. I'm currently 13,958 in the tier and I'm only going to drop from there. I'm starting to hit whale territory and it's scary.

But speed doesn't matter with Quick Riposte. If anything, it might even help since she get doubled by more units letting her counter-double more units with Quick Riposte.

Also, the hilarity of it now is with +Res, Sheena can use Iceberg or Glacies and she'd get the same amount of damage, but her special art has fire surrounding her. And 3 Wards means she's going to sit at 48 defense and resistance. If you can plop her on a defense tile which ups her defenses by 30%, she'd effectively have 62 defense and resistance. She'd wall the hell out of blues and greens.

If you had another Hector for Distant Counter, she'd be able to counter-kill the mages too while taking trivial damage. But that's assuming they're not running -blade tomes and have high attack and decent to good defense like Spring Camilla and Reinhardt. +Atk, =Spd, -whatever Reinhardt with Dire Thunder, Death Blow 3, and 1 Hone can only do 8 total damage to her, but if he has Blarblade+ and 1 Hone and 1 Fortify, he doubles her -- speed bane... -- with 23 damage -- bonus damage yay... -- killing her if she isn't on a defense tile or has Wary Fighter. In return she only does 16 damage. And this is a unit she's supposed to have weapon triangle defense over...

Anyway, between Bonfire and Ignis, it's kind of going to be up to you. Bonfire will activate sooner which can be a lifesaver, but it has lower damage made worse if you use Wards since that doesn't factor into its damage. If you're walling units with Sheena with Wary Fighter, it can take longer for either special to charge which might not a problem since if she's walling out units and taking little damage, she can slowly charge up her special. Just be careful about other units having specials since they could muscle through her. At the same time, it can be a problem since if she's taking a long time to charge her special, everyone might be dead while she didn't do much offensively which once again, not a problem if she's supposed to be the defensive unit. You might want to ask on Serene's Forest about this.

 

[EODM07]

I usually really hate Dubstep (Since my hearing is somewhat sensitive).

But I will admit, this is a pretty good track from Tekken 7.