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Antonykun

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hey gorls remember how Cress! Cress! has that super Anna?

well...

(Vantage was a Bad Idea IMO)
I'm kinda holding on giving him more skills until i learn more those equipable items i heard about
 

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r/FireEmblemHeroes is like a political election right now, everyone is trying to get votes for their waifu+Subaki (but according to this post he is in fact a waifu so nevermind).
I'm going to lend my goddessT Anna for yew all to use. There's only 1 red unit in the banner and I don't really think Palla will get past the first round unless she gets matched up against Subaki, so every1 is gonna die basically. Have fun, drive safe, come back home before 11.

Anyways I asked on reddit but nobody answered in the 15 minutes before the post got deleted so... should I give my +Res Eirika Iceberg? Her +Res nature puts her at 31 and 30 or above imo is good enough for Iceberg, so should I use it? Should I use Glacies despite the higher charge time? Just be lazy and slap on Moonbow again? Honestly letting other people inherit Moonbow is Palla's best use I'm not sorry

Also BAN•CORDELIA, SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WE CAN RELY ON TO TAKE DOWN THE MONSTER CAMILLA. GIVE THIS LOVELY LADY ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT!

Edit: Wait Antonykun Antonykun how does that gorl in full-body armor have 35 speed. Not including Fury he has 32 speed which is still ridonk. Like how does he actually have that much. How.
 
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hey gorls remember how Cress! Cress! has that super Anna?

well...

(Vantage was a Bad Idea IMO)
I'm kinda holding on giving him more skills until i learn more those equipable items i heard about
Yeah, you should have given him Quick Riposte which would also mean ditching Fury since you need to be at high HP to have Quick Riposte to work.

Basically, so long as you have your HP above a certain threshold, you will always follow-up if an enemy initiates combat against you which for Draug is pretty easy against any physical unit since he has the highest defense of the knights available. While his speed is the highest of all knights, it's probably better for an enemy phase unit to have a different weapon like Killing Edge or Silver Sword for Draug it probably better than a Brave Sword. Armorslayer too, but not a lot of knights in general even if a lot of people use knights and while a Ruby Sword is good, if it's not against a green unit, it might mean Draug is missing out on damage. Oh, and if you're one of those lucky people, Wo Dao+ is great for Draug too.

Dude, didn't I link you a Draug build thread before? This post sort of discusses Quick Riposte Draug: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...-gentle-giant/&do=findComment&comment=4765695.

Whatever, you have a ton of SP, you could get different skills letting you equip Draug with whatever you want for whatever situation, but I think a Quick Riposte Draug build was the one that was said to make the upcoming Navarre map trivial according to theories on what the units will be and what their stats are like.

Anyways I asked on reddit but nobody answered in the 15 minutes before the post got deleted so... should I give my +Res Eirika Iceberg? Her +Res nature puts her at 31 and 30 or above imo is good enough for Iceberg, so should I use it? Should I use Glacies despite the higher charge time? Just be lazy and slap on Moonbow again? Honestly letting other people inherit Moonbow is Palla's best use I'm not sorry
You want me to ask on Serene's Forest? They're pretty quick with replies. Or, y'know, you could make an account there and ask.

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Edit: Wait Antonykun Antonykun how does that gorl in full-body armor have 35 speed. Not including Fury he has 32 speed which is still ridonk. Like how does he actually have that much. How.
Fastest knight in the game followed by Sheena at 25 average speed, Gwendolyn and Hector at 24 average speed, Effie at 22 average speed, and I think Zephiel has 16 speed. Apparently, this matches his stats in Shadow Dragon where despite being a knight, his stat growths favored skill and speed and you can make him a glass cannon in the remakes. The only difference is that in the original game, his defense growth was 10% for a knight. Yeah. If it was like that in Heroes, he'd have the lowest defense which would suck. The remakes gave him 30% (Shadow Dragon remake) and 55% (New Mystery remake) defense growths.
 
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Who should I vote for in the Gauntlet? I'm not particularly interested in any of the choices
Considering it's 4 Greens vs. 3 Blues and a Red, my instinct is to pick an Axe gorl. Cherche would be my pick since she's the only character I have familiarity with

But I wanna actually get some feathers out of this for once <-<;;
And idk who to make my leader. I guess if the majority is on the Blue side I'll give you gorls Marth or Karel but if it's on the Green side, I'll have to grind out the rest of Hector's levels to 40
 

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Who should I vote for in the Gauntlet? I'm not particularly interested in any of the choices
Considering it's 4 Greens vs. 3 Blues and a Red, my instinct is to pick an Axe gorl. Cherche would be my pick since she's the only character I have familiarity with

But I wanna actually get some feathers out of this for once <-<;;
And idk who to make my leader. I guess if the majority is on the Blue side I'll give you gorls Marth or Karel but if it's on the Green side, I'll have to grind out the rest of Hector's levels to 40
If you want to win then Camilla is the safest bet considering her fanbase.

I'll be on team riceload tho.
 

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You want me to ask on Serene's Forest? They're pretty quick with replies.
Thanks, I'd appreciate it. :happysheep: I should make an account there sometime tho, I visit often enough.
Who should I vote for in the Gauntlet? I'm not particularly interested in any of the choices
Considering it's 4 Greens vs. 3 Blues and a Red, my instinct is to pick an Axe gorl. Cherche would be my pick since she's the only character I have familiarity with

But I wanna actually get some feathers out of this for once <-<;;
And idk who to make my leader. I guess if the majority is on the Blue side I'll give you gorls Marth or Karel but if it's on the Green side, I'll have to grind out the rest of Hector's levels to 40
Camilla is nice to piggyback on if you want the easy 500 feathers for winning, but like team Lucina last time since she had so many players, you'll need a LOT more points to rank on the leaderboards to get any kind of actual feathers. So if you want a kinda small reward without doing much then go Camilla. If you'll play a lot, I'd go with Cherche probably. She's popular enough that you may win a few games (unless she goes against Camilla round 1), but not too popular that you'll need to play 24/7 to get anything beyond the 500 for winning.

Picking a leader is a tough choice for this one. The most reliable would be colorless imo. Since people will use a lot of the character they voted for, you'll probably see a lot more axe units in general. And since 3/8 are blue, green would be the most reliable choice for either a mostly neutral or advantageous battle. BUUUUUT red units are everywhere and even though you prob won't see them as much as you would in the Arena, they'll still be there. Last gauntlet was easy since there were no green units and green units aren't that popular in general; just pick a blue and have fun winning everything. This gauntlet I'd say just wait and see. But set it as Karel anyways since he seems fun to use and I'll never summon him.
 

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Thanks, I'd appreciate it. :happysheep: I should make an account there sometime tho, I visit often enough.
I asked about 2 hours ago, but I haven't received an answer. Might have asked in the wrong place since there is both a Skill Inheritance Discussion thread and a question thread. Asking about what special for a character might have been better for the question thread since it's not an exact build. That and I've noticed that Serene's Forest, well, in the FE Heroes board, slows down in activity near midnight central time and it's also a weekday, so there's that too. Meanwhile, on the Zelda social where it's 1:00 in morning and people are still posting. :p

Thing is I have the same question since I don't have anyone with Iceberg -- Niles, like every archer in this stupid game, refuses to show up --, but I do have an extra Iceberg because of Shanna. Eirika's defense boon and resistance, neutral or boon, are good, but they're not Caeda, Selena, Subaki, etc. good, so I don't know. That said, getting 80% out of her resistance is still a lot of damage. Just gonna have to wait since it might actually be better for her to get Luna or Moonbow while someone else with higher defense and resistance use Bonfire/Iceberg and Ignis/Glacies.

Oh, and since we're talking about skills, one user, BANRYU, is doing a write-up on Oboro, so if you're interested, you can check that out too or I could link it whenever it comes up. Here's the start of it: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...ce-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=4775492.

I should really follow the Skill Inheritance thread -- I don't think there's an auto-follow option which is on by default if you make an account on Smashboards. Serene's Forest has a smoother reply notice e.g. if BJN39 just posted, I'd have an immediate notification showing that, but it's a bit different with some things like making spoilers is more annoying than on Smashboards.

There were some discussions about how Gaius (and Jakob and Saizo) could be better a Kagero, especially Gaius since his neutral speed is higher than hers -- 36 to Kagero's 32 -- and with an attack boon, he'd have 32 attack -- same as Jakob and Saizo with attack boon -- which would be fine with a Poison Dagger -- someone said that he's pretty much held back by his Rogue Dagger which really is the worst of the other daggers. The main thing is that both Gaius and Saizo are easier to hunt for a good boon/bane than Kagero (and Jakob) and you really only need a Kagero, preferably a 5* one, to just dump a Poison Dagger on either of them and then slap on Life & Death on them to make them ridiculous.

Also, Quadsuna. And I'm just sitting here twiddling my thumbs wondering what it would be like to even have a Setsuna to use.

Since you mentioned it, does anyone have a unit they want to use, but don't have or have at a high level?

Edit: I just realized that I have never had a unit with any of the Retribution branch skills. I think the closest I've gotten to that was a re-roll where Tharja showed up and having used a Takumi during the last Voting Gauntlet which I think didn't activate since he and everyone else killed everything before it could activate.
 
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RE: Gauntlet redux

It was originally a toss-up between Cherche or Minerva inb4 Minerva the Wyvern jokes but I'll go Team Cherche since I just pulled her recently and she's my Awakening fave.

Oh yeah, Navarre GHB is dropping soon too.

Edit: I did it hunnies! <3


Pretty easy GHB, beat Lunatic on my first try. Haven't even done it on Hard lmao.

Kagero is bae in this map. Expect a write-up soon.
 
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Haha grand hero battle what

That was a MILLION TIME EASIER than Michalis. Like, it's not even comparable. I used 5 Star Marth, 5 Star Hector, 4 Star Sharena, and 4 Star m!Robin. All level 40, except Hector who's level 34

My """""strategy""""" was just to make Hector absolutely murder the two Thieves who thought throwing toothpicks at the steel wall with eye lasers was a good idea. Sharena was there to buff Hector so that he'd kill the thieves in one turn. Navarre died instantly to m!Robin. Marth easily killed the Axe user and the Cleric.

Hector has now been my easy solution for both Michalis and Navarre. Honestly why do they bother making focuses with characters making up a clever strategy when they could just give everyone 4 Hectors lol
I already got his 3 Star as well...doesn't seem like he has any good skills to pass down at 3 Stars though. Just Desperation 1 or Threaten Spd 2. Or his special I guess but those take so long to do anything.
I could just Merge my 4 Star into him, then promote him later with the Twitter Poll Feathers...I'd get more SP and a +1...but idk if I wanna put in that effort. I have a bunch of characters I care more about to promote.
 
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I already got his 3 Star as well...doesn't seem like he has any good skills to pass down at 3 Stars though. Just Desperation 1 or Threaten Spd 2. Or his special I guess but those take so long to do anything.
I could just Merge my 4 Star into him, then promote him later with the Twitter Poll Feathers...I'd get more SP and a +1...but idk if I wanna put in that effort. I have a bunch of characters I care more about to promote.
He's...kind of just a worse, but free, Lyn or Karel.

Excluding the hair. I think Karel's been replaced for best hair.

Who should I vote for in the Gauntlet? I'm not particularly interested in any of the choices
Considering it's 4 Greens vs. 3 Blues and a Red, my instinct is to pick an Axe gorl. Cherche would be my pick since she's the only character I have familiarity with

But I wanna actually get some feathers out of this for once <-<;;
And idk who to make my leader. I guess if the majority is on the Blue side I'll give you gorls Marth or Karel but if it's on the Green side, I'll have to grind out the rest of Hector's levels to 40
Team Cherche. She's the last true mouthpiece.
 

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*4:52 AM*
*trying to actually sleep before the sun comes up (lol yay for spring break)*
*remembers that you can send Heroes home for feathers and I'm only 1,000 away from 20,000*
*passes out*
 

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Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

About to have my meeting today with my TA to see what I'll have to do for this week, I'll also take this time to catch up with what I've missed and what I can do to improve my previous pieces.

Btw, I might post some clips of me getting outright destroyed in Sm4sh. :yeahboi:

 

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hey gorls remember how Cress! Cress! has that super Anna?

well...

(Vantage was a Bad Idea IMO)
I'm kinda holding on giving him more skills until i learn more those equipable items i heard about
what if i told you that in Shadow Dragon Draug went full on Glass Cannon with his personal growths and used the Knight class's Stone Wall growths to balance himself out
 

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So... Did 3 rounds of summoning. Got:
5 star Minerva (Mineva is usable +HP/-RES, she is a good unit by default as long as she's not -ATK or -SPD so yay)
5 star Cherche (-ATK lmaolmaolmao naaaah)
5 star Camilla (+ATK/-HP, but her Brave Axe can go to a better unit probably)
4 star Tharja (-4 HP bcuz yea that makes sense and is SO fair but +3 speed so yay)
4 Star Hawkeye (oops praying to the Bara God has gotten me Bara, but not the kind I wanted RIP)
4 star Klein (so now I have 2 sources of Death Blow 3 aaaaay)
4 star Reinhardt (+ATK/-SPD again, he will get DB3 for sure)

I also have a bunch of Cordelias, 3 of which have +ATK/-HP so IDK if I should use her or not. I also have +ATK/-DEF Abel which may be better than her? I also somehow got Hinoka a while ago, because there she is in my character roster... Except her stats suck. I must've forgot because Lord of the Thighs is bleh as a unit/character when compared to Cordelia. She is good for Goad Flyer and Minerva has Ward Flyer, so I can just pass Goad to Cordelia and make a flyer team. I have 3 bad Pallas and Spring-Camilla (albeit, not a good IV spread but still usable). So I could totally make a flyer team that's good. I would most likely give Bunilla my 5 star Nino's book, since Flyer buffs = 20 ATK for Bunilla lolRIP. Though I've heard Triangle Adept + Cecilia's book = dead silvers and dead blues. But we need more Sword Fliers because having only 1 is DUMB. :T

I went through my units and decided to see who's good or not. I still have a bunch to go through, but 200 is a lot and with how my eyes work it's easy to skip over characters that are just sitting there staring right back at me. Like how I missed Hinoka. OOPS

+ATK/-RES Cecilia (-DEF is preferred but this is a good second), though I may never use her anyway.
+SPD/-DEF Robin (-RES is preferred, but this is a good second), I MIGHT use him one day.
+ATK/-RES Frederick (best nature for BA+ Freddy boi, I have a 3* or 4* version of this so IDK which to start with)
+ATK/-HP Eliwood or +SPD/-DEF Eliwood (both are almost good so it's OK)

McKnightlíght McKnightlíght I finally finished my team :^)
r/FireEmblemHeroes is like a political election right now, everyone is trying to get votes for their waifu+Subaki (but according to this post he is in fact a waifu so nevermind).
I'm going to lend my goddessT Anna for yew all to use. There's only 1 red unit in the banner and I don't really think Palla will get past the first round unless she gets matched up against Subaki, so every1 is gonna die basically. Have fun, drive safe, come back home before 11.

Anyways I asked on reddit but nobody answered in the 15 minutes before the post got deleted so... should I give my +Res Eirika Iceberg? Her +Res nature puts her at 31 and 30 or above imo is good enough for Iceberg, so should I use it? Should I use Glacies despite the higher charge time? Just be lazy and slap on Moonbow again? Honestly letting other people inherit Moonbow is Palla's best use I'm not sorry

Also BAN•CORDELIA, SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WE CAN RELY ON TO TAKE DOWN THE MONSTER CAMILLA. GIVE THIS LOVELY LADY ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT!

Edit: Wait Antonykun Antonykun how does that gorl in full-body armor have 35 speed. Not including Fury he has 32 speed which is still ridonk. Like how does he actually have that much. How.
I have more Cordelias than you. :^)

But ye, Iceberg on Eirika is pretty decent. However Moonbow might be better since it has 2 turns for activation. Moonbow in general seems to be the Go-To and is plentiful thanks to Odins being all over the place. The only exceptions would be Brave-Attackers who should get Luna instead of Moonbow. Because:
1) If they are attacked and survive, it won't be wasted on the wrong enemy.
2) If they aren't attacked, they will proc it for the 2nd hit of their Brave Weapon.

After grinding all day, I still only get 3 star repeats of old characters. in the past two weeks I've only gotten one new four star that doesn't suck, and that's Hawkeye(even then, he's meh). I got a 3 star robin a while back, and I've been grinding to make him on par with my other units.

:150:
Hawkeye is only good for the Bara Factor, tbh. Death Blow 2 is good if you don't have 3, though, you would probably be better off using +3 ATK over Death Blow 2 anyway.

hey gorls remember how Cress! Cress! has that super Anna?

well...

(Vantage was a Bad Idea IMO)
I'm kinda holding on giving him more skills until i learn more those equipable items i heard about
UM OK. At least he is a good husbando in this game because he is voiced by Germany/Patrick Seitz so he is Green Haired/Eyed Hector.

Edit: Wait Antonykun Antonykun how does that gorl in full-body armor have 35 speed. Not including Fury he has 32 speed which is still ridonk. Like how does he actually have that much. How.
He is a big strong mountain man. He's Effie as a dude-gorl.
 
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I'd go with the first one between the 2 tbh.
I mistyped, I wasn't that lucky. cricri

-ATK/+SPD (or vice versa) and -DEF/+RES (or vice versa). I have 4 Eliwoods. IDK how this even happened. HELP. Does his weapon stack with Death Blow or Sparrow? If so I might just use the -ATK one and hit him with Sparrow. It'd essentially fix his -ATK nature by 1 point when attacking AND give him +7 speed over his neutral nature when attacking... I doubt they stack tho.

Actually I haven't summoned a single Odin everrrrrr
Step 1) Click Summon
Step 2) Tap a Blue Orb
Step 3) Watch as a clown car flies out of your sacred gun thing
Step 4) Wait as a clown car full of Odins exit the vehicle.

I only had 3 star Odins and 1 4 star. So I had to use feathers on them to grind them up...
 

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I might have bad luck, but I feel like odin sucks.

My 4 star odin at level 15 was weaker than a lvl 1 4 star M!Robin.

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Step 1) Click Summon
Step 2) Tap a Blue Orb
Step 3) Watch as a clown car flies out of your sacred gun thing
Step 4) Wait as a clown car full of Odins exit the vehicle.
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THIS IS LIKE MY SEVENTH 3 STAR FEMALE CORRIN I DON'T WANT YOU I DON'T NEED YOU PLS DELETE YOURSELF FROM THE GAME
 

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That's because Odin does suck.

He's good for his book and not much else.
Moonbow too, since it is the best and most practical offensive ability to have. So Odin is definitely the best Fodder you can summon. Luna is good for Brave weapon users. Super fast attackers can pick either one (though Moonbow will ensure they kill whatever counters back if they initiate).

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TBH the fact you got a 4 star Odin is a great thing, since he is quality fodder.

I am building a horsie team and have all my fodder required. It's just I really need a lot of SP.

BTW should I train Freddy from 3 stars or 4 stars (he is going to need 1500ish SP)? The first unit I will 5 star will be Eliwood for his special sword.
 

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TBH if I summon another Est or Flroina I will vommit.

Which banner should I be summoning on?

:150:
 

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Moonbow too, since it is the best and most practical offensive ability to have. So Odin is definitely the best Fodder you can summon. Luna is good for Brave weapon users. Super fast attackers can pick either one (though Moonbow will ensure they kill whatever counters back if they initiate).
Eh, I feel like Moonbow is just thrown for lack of thinking if anything is better.

Hinata being the only 4* with maxed out Fury is probably the best fodder you can summon.

TBH if I summon another Est or Flroina I will vommit.

Which banner should I be summoning on?

:150:
If that's how you feel, definitely not the Pegasus Banner.

I'd probably recommend the Green Banner for the better 5* chances and three of them just being solid units to have if you have to spend the orbs or something, though that does depend somewhat on what you already have.

In a vacuum, the two best units currently in a focus at the moment is Effie and Kagero though, but the roll chances on that one is really poor due to the color spread.
 
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I don't feel like watching all of this lol. Any reason why comments are disabled? Is it because of the Kirby?
Probably because people feel strongly for and against SmashSisters as a whole

Edit: o god 10v10 crews.......

not gonna lie, but this CB is pretty ResidentSleeper
at least right now it is

Pika v Lucas match was interesting

jfc Ms.Saiyan was hands-down the MVP of that CB
o snap or maybe Fuwa, the Marth was MVP, hmm..........
 
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Eh, I feel like Moonbow is just thrown for lack of thinking if anything is better.

Hinata being the only 4* with maxed out Fury is probably the best fodder you can summon.
True about Hinata, he is a good unit to pull. Though it'd be for quick-burn units, which would definitely want some form of sustain and Moonbow or perhaps Reprisal. While Brave-Weapon users aren't expected to double, so Death Blow would be better use of an A slot skill. People like Hinata for the +12 BST for more Arena Points. But that's slated to change, so that might mean Fury will go into the trash... For some units. For units like Dancers it is still ideal so they don't get doubled and can survive almost anything thrown at them. Self-substain units that are grossly OP like +SPD Lucina will probably like it too since it'd make her double almost everything and kill everything.

Moonbow is a well thought out placement for most characters. The reason being is:
1) Most units, when fighting what they should fight, will only need a SMALL nudge to kill their foe if they're +DEF/+RES/+HP. For example, Lucina vs +DEF Hector. If she has Moonbow, she will hit him, be hit by him, and her 3rd hit will activate Moonbow. He is dead and she is at half HP. If he lives, she will be gravely injured/will die. If Hector is +HP/+DEF boon then forget about it without +ATK buffs or +ATK Nature. This is the most extreme example of "fighting things you could/should fight" tho.

2) Characters in the Arena are expendable and aren't slated to last for long, so you'd rather get a meh ability off vs a potentially OP one. Glimmer and Luna are popular ones. For Defending , it's best to have defensive skills of some kind. For story mode it's whatever. AIs won't make the most out of attack abilities anyway.

3) Bait and murder w/ Killer Weapons (or special weapons with -1 Trigger). Some killer weapon users are not guaranteed to double and their base attack is meh. So they bait a unit, get hit, and either outright delete them OR just ez kill them next round. Reprisal might be the better option, but that means risk is involved to continuously use that Special. While Moonblow is a guaranteed 6~12 damage every other tick/round without needing to be damaged (so it's less of a 1-trick-pony routine).

Though Moonbow is more of a "blanket easy to use Special" since it works in a lot of cases with the current meta/line of units. Luna or Glimmer may be ideal depending on your unit. Like a Brave Weapon user will want Luna, while a Killer Weapon user (w/ baiting implied) would work better with Reprisal. Thankfully there's some flexibility so you can build a team with different Specials at the very least. Moonbow is a godsend for the slow nukers, though.
 

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TIL that Saizo's defense is equal to Effie's.

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