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2004Zilla

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Flavius

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Alright gorls, I think I lost it cause I don't think this happened
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Sometimes the mobile version switches up the avatars :/. #Tr4shboards :secretkpop:
 

Gay Ginger

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While I don't think lingerie is a practical outfit to wear when fightin' ghosts and ****, whats with the censorship and why are us western audiences only receiving it?

It's a rated-M game, and the censorship just looks pretentious on Nintendo's part.
Well, we don't know why they've removed it - I'm going to use "removed" rather than "censored."

A lot of gamers (judging from comments online) think it's because Nintendo thought it was too "mature," but I'm not sure that's it. I hope that they removed it because they thought it would be poorly received by its Western audiences, who generally don't seem as enthused about this sort of content (completely out-of-place and over-the-top sexual objectification). I know just from this site a lot of us have complained about the costumes and boob physics before...

Whatever the reason, it's a positive outcome in my opinion. The outfits are ridiculous, ruin the atmosphere, and needlessly sexualize the protagonists (though they're still sexualized in other aspects of the game, just not to the same level and not as "out-of-place") to pander to horny gamer boys.
 

Cress!

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I was playing casuals with a friend and found some true combos that are BAN•WORTHY
-Bunny Hood DThrow to Nair works at ~50% (More like 100% on heavier characters)
-Bunny Hood DThrow to Bair works and kills at ~105%. VERY SPECIFIC, but it's garunteed.
-Nauru's Passion to the opponent being too confused to comprehend the terribleness that they get hit by it works at all percents.

ZELDA HAS A CONFIRM KILL OFF OF THROWS AT EARLY PERCENTS. EVEN IF IT IS BY USING AN ITEM. BAN•ZELDA


Actually I'm testing out others and Bunny Hood UThrow to Uair works at the same percents as DThrow to Bair but you don't have to be as precise.
MORE KILL COMBOS FOR THIS TOXIC CHARACTER. BAN BAN BAN!
 
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CatRaccoonBL

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Fatal Frame's lingerie outfits were removed for the Western release! Hallelujah! Now if only they had removed the boob physics...
Yay! Censorship!
Well, we don't know why they've removed it - I'm going to use "removed" rather than "censored."
It is censorship. In fact, the very reason you are trying to justify calling it "removed" instead of "censored" is exactly why we have the word "censorship" in the first place.
A lot of gamers (judging from comments online) think it's because Nintendo thought it was too "mature," but I'm not sure that's it. I hope that they removed it because they thought it would be poorly received by its Western audiences, who generally don't seem as enthused about this sort of content (completely out-of-place and over-the-top sexual objectification). I know just from this site a lot of us have complained about the costumes and boob physics before...
So screw the people who wanted it? How do they know the people who "don't seem as enthused" (which isn't even complaining?), were the majority. Also, for the last time objectification doesn't exist for video games because everyone and everything is already an object. It is impossible to give any of the things in a game free will or an opinion. All of their actions are because someone else told them to. However, if anyone is objectifying anything, then it is everyone who wanted this thing removed because they are taking away her free will to wear whatever she wants. But of course, they aren't objectifying anything, because the playable character doesn't have an opinion on what she wants to wear because she is a pre-programmed object.
It doesn't promote objectification either before that is said. And no evidence to suggest it either.
 
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It's cold here and I hate it.

But I learned a nice phrase.

"There are 3 seasons in Indiana; Winter, July, and August."
 

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Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Cleaned around my room this morning and I saw the first two episodes of Attack on Titan: Junior High/Shingeki Kyojin Chuugakkou. I'm a sucker for school comedy anime, and I think this might be up my alley.

Nah. Charizard is real good compared to other heavyweights, at least. You were just using a lot of smash attacks. And Rock Smash.
It's mainly due to the fact that I make one mistake and I'm basically food for any character. :V
Which is probably why I'm doubting on using a Heavyweight, or I can try out :4dk: for the Ding Dong, or please McKnightlíght McKnightlíght and go :4myfriends: because of disjoints. :secretkpop:

 
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Rizen

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Yay! Censorship!
It is censorship. In fact, the very reason you are trying to justify calling it "removed" instead of "censored" is exactly why we have the word "censorship" in the first place.

So screw the people who wanted it? How do they know the people who "don't seem as enthused" (which isn't even complaining?), were the majority. Also, for the last time objectification doesn't exist for video games because everyone and everything is already an object. It is impossible to give any of the things in a game free will or an opinion. All of their actions are because someone else told them to. However, if anyone is objectifying anything, then it is everyone who wanted this thing removed because they are taking away her free will to wear whatever she wants. But of course, they aren't objectifying anything, because the playable character doesn't have an opinion on what she wants to wear because she is a pre-programmed object.
It doesn't promote objectification either before that is said. And no evidence to suggest it either.
It's not censorship, it's marketing. People are free to publish anything they want but the public doesn't have to support it. They think it won't sell. :ohwell:

"So screw the people who wanted it?" Yeah pretty much. If something isn't cost effective nothing else really matters. I wanted a new 'Eternal Darkness' game but it simply didn't get the support despite having so much potential :urg:

"objectification doesn't exist for video games because everyone and everything is already an object" This has no meaning because it's all words. Words don't represent real world meaning like how pencil drawings don't make pictures, it's just graphite on paper. Frankly I'm just tapping random keys to the rhythm of Crush With Eyeliner in hope that people somehow guess what I'm trying to say. It's worked remarkably well so far :rolleyes:
 

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And your reflector(s) are unbearably awkward and punishable. Zing!

Really, as usual with Pit, he doesn't do anything too extreme to Mewtwo, and vice versa. Dash attack and throw combos are a bit annoying but nothing that can't be overcome. Better player will win as usual.
Not so fast there. Pit's arrows essentially self destruct when reflected, if they were aimed right. Mewtwo can't reflect these. And then Mewtwo getting into a reflect war with SBs only puts Mewtwo in a bad position because of the unique mechanics behind Pit's Dspecial. Namely that breaking makes Pit immune to the attack that broke it and will not put Pit into a stunned state. All he loses is the ability to use the move for ten seconds, and Pit can keep Mewtwo from getting full charge for that long.
 

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Xenoblade Chronicles is p cool

The ability to strip everyone to their underwear is a nice touch... ;3
 

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Xenoblade Chronicles is p cool

The ability to strip everyone to their underwear is a nice touch... ;3
You forgot the waifu in the party too, who you won't meet till you reach about the 8th Area in the game. :3

Also, quick question girls. Since I'm watching the AoT spinoff. Which OP would you say is better?

Attack on Titan? Or Attack on Titan: Junior High?
 
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meleebrawler

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Not so fast there. Pit's arrows essentially self destruct when reflected, if they were aimed right. Mewtwo can't reflect these. And then Mewtwo getting into a reflect war with SBs only puts Mewtwo in a bad position because of the unique mechanics behind Pit's Dspecial. Namely that breaking makes Pit immune to the attack that broke it and will not put Pit into a stunned state. All he loses is the ability to use the move for ten seconds, and Pit can keep Mewtwo from getting full charge for that long.
I mean it's a big risk to even consider using it, not that he'll be in trouble in a tennis match. So much lag that Mewtwo can basically catch up and punish from anywhere except opposite ends of the stage.

Oh, so reflected arrows won't hit if angled right? Boohoo, poor me. That's true for everyone with a reflector, and it doesn't make much of difference since, whether shielded or reflected, Pit's not getting a punish in either way.
 

Antonykun

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I have the weirdest feeling.

It is as if i can't say anything about Pit/Dork Pit with out getting punished for it.

might as well test this feeling out

"Pit has relatively poor frame data which means powerful edgeguarders like Sheik or Villager can chase him offstage better than most other characters"
 

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I have the weirdest feeling.

It is as if i can't say anything about Pit/Dork Pit with out getting punished for it.

might as well test this feeling out

"Pit has relatively poor frame data which means powerful edgeguarders like Sheik or Villager can chase him offstage better than most other characters"
That feeling is the looming threat of LancerStaff LancerStaff getting ready to chew you out.
 

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Ach, no Xenoblade CX spoilers! It's not out here yet! *Closes eyes and covers ears* La la la la la laaa....
I'm avoiding spoilers for that like the plague too.
Ain't looking it up at all until I've played it myself.

And don't worry, we're talking about Xenoblade Chronicles. Not Xenoblade Chronicles X. :3
 

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Namely that breaking makes Pit immune to the attack that broke it and will not put Pit into a stunned state. All he loses is the ability to use the move for ten seconds...
What.

No. Really. What.

Did you just say

That when an attack destroys pit's shields (down B)

That he becomes temporarily immune to hitstun from that attack.
 

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I was playing casuals with a friend and found some true combos that are BAN•WORTHY
-Bunny Hood DThrow to Nair works at ~50% (More like 100% on heavier characters)
-Bunny Hood DThrow to Bair works and kills at ~105%. VERY SPECIFIC, but it's garunteed.
-Nauru's Passion to the opponent being too confused to comprehend the terribleness that they get hit by it works at all percents.

ZELDA HAS A CONFIRM KILL OFF OF THROWS AT EARLY PERCENTS. EVEN IF IT IS BY USING AN ITEM. BAN•ZELDA


Actually I'm testing out others and Bunny Hood UThrow to Uair works at the same percents as DThrow to Bair but you don't have to be as precise.
MORE KILL COMBOS FOR THIS TOXIC CHARACTER. BAN BAN BAN!
I found this too. I noticed a lot of characters gain combos or tier revamping perks with items on. I wonder how much balancing was required when it came to the items in this game... Perhaps it lead to over(or under) compensating between items, 1v1, teams, and FFA which is why some characters are dumbdiculous.
 

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What.

No. Really. What.

Did you just say

That when an attack destroys pit's shields (down B)

That he becomes temporarily immune to hitstun from that attack.
pretty much when the shield breaks he suffers no hitstun (it's best to act as if the attack wiffed) and negligible end lag from the move itself. It still has it's normal endlag if it doesn't break and you can still grab him out of it. You still won't use it much as a pit though it has bad start up to go with. only really gives you a mix up for landing with a little gimp potential
 
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pretty much when the shield breaks he suffers no hitstun (it's best to act as if the attack wiffed) and negligible end lag from the move itself. It still has it's normal endlag if it doesn't break and you can still grab him out of it. You still won't use it much as a pit though it has bad start up to go with. only really gives you a mix up for landing with a little gimp potential
Oh, I see.

I though it literally made pit take no hitstun from the move that broke it until the shields regenerated, which would be crazy.
 

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I mean it's a big risk to even consider using it, not that he'll be in trouble in a tennis match. So much lag that Mewtwo can basically catch up and punish from anywhere except opposite ends of the stage.

Oh, so reflected arrows won't hit if angled right? Boohoo, poor me. That's true for everyone with a reflector, and it doesn't make much of difference since, whether shielded or reflected, Pit's not getting a punish in either way.
If Pit's close enough then Mewtwo can't reflect back after a certain point. I'll take the chance of killing Mewtwo insanely early for whatever he'd get off of a punish like this. And you really can't punish Pit for breaking his reflector since the recovery animation is that much faster... So you're going to have to deal with it in a conventional way, limiting the punish even if you don't reflect it.

And Mewtwo is? Pit can fire arrows as fast as Luigi fireballs.

Like I said, Pit's gimmicks makes Mewtwo's reflector useless. Don't think you can say otherwise at this point.

I have the weirdest feeling.

It is as if i can't say anything about Pit/Dork Pit with out getting punished for it.

might as well test this feeling out

"Pit has relatively poor frame data which means powerful edgeguarders like Sheik or Villager can chase him offstage better than most other characters"
Sheik can't do much to Pit besides like 2% needles or whatever because she can't go all that deep.

Villager can, though, and Bowling Ball/Tree/Pot can be a menace. Can't get too cheeky though since Pit can Fspecial the projectiles to assist his recovery. And he messes with Villager's recovery just as hard, if not harder, which makes for an interesting matchup since they're otherwise very durable characters.

Oh, I see.

I though it literally made pit take no hitstun from the move that broke it until the shields regenerated, which would be crazy.
I prefer to think of it as a counter without the counterattack, especially with the custom that breaks in one hit. Which is funny because that's supposed to be the main drawback...
 

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Somehow I stumbled upon Squidboards and found the zelda social there.

It's dead as anything but I got some good laughs out of it. Also saw a lot of old avis that you gurls used at one point which was somewhat nostalgic.

I've collected some of the things I saw/read and put them in the spoilers below for everyone to enjoy/remember.

"To be successful in life, one must add sass in every action they take."

- Princess Zelda, Queen of Sass


Note: There's an actual user named "Zelda" on there that said this.
I will see to it that this social burns to the ground

Note: Like "Zelda", there was a user named "Mewtwo" who said this.
Not on my watch, Mewtwo. I may be low tier, but I can out-sass a purple fetus cat any day.
BJN39, I must ask you to take the Triforce of Sass. I've no use for it now, as I've reached maximum levels of sass. You will become the new Princess Zelda in the "The Legend of Zelda: Ganondorf Gets Sassy". Please, do this for me... you are the chosen gorl.
Unlike most say, I haven't been nerfed. Power, Courage, and whatever else is useless to me. I hold the Triforce of Wisdom, and with that I know that sass is the most important. Master Sakurai has upgraded my sass beyond belief in this iteration. While it may not seem true at first, I'm considered the most broken character among smashers.

Do not fret, for I remain full.
If we're going to have a social, might as well start the ****posting.
 

Chez G.

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I'm going to try to make this quick. College is really starting to trouble me, so I'm not going to be on here (or anywhere on Smashboards) very often, if at all. In fact, I feel as if I spend more time here than I should on more important things. I know that I just joined this social forum, but this is something I must fix.

Sorry gorls.
 

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Talking about the whole "removing sexy outfits from Fatal Frame" thing, I think that it really doesn't make any sense. They're just taking out content for no reason. Other games with "sexy outfits" are rated M and it's usually not that big a deal, only sometimes. This is coming from a Dead or Alive player. Our community honestly does not care about the "sexy outfits" (the competitive community at least) and just see it as another option to dress your character up as. We all know the series has been the pioneer in three dimensional breast jiggle physics since its debut, and that's just how it is, but we appreciate the game for the game itself. My friends and I actually get many good laughs at how over sexualized the characters in series are. That game is rated M, and for a reason (although it used to be T back in the day), so they can get away with over the top things. If Fatal Frame is already rated M for reasons that are unrelated to sexuality, and they already have boob physics, then there's really no point in taking out more content you could only get away with if you have a Mature rating anyways. It's not like they tried to censor the game for a T rating, because it was going to be rated M anyways.

America is just a ***** when it comes to sexuality and it's so stupid. Yet we are perfectly fine with violence. It should be the other way around.

God forbid you see part of a nipple when you're 11. It's fine for you to watch this movie about some random serial killer murdering people though. :upsidedown:
 
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Cress!

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Talking about the whole "removing sexy outfits from Fatal Frame" thing, I think that it really doesn't make any sense. They're just taking out content for no reason. Other games with "sexy outfits" are rated M and it's usually not that big a deal, only sometimes. This is coming from a Dead or Alive player. Our community honestly does not care about the "sexy outfits" (the competitive community at least) and just see it as another option to dress your character up as. We all know the series has been the pioneer in three dimensional breast jiggle physics since its debut, and that's just how it is, but we appreciate the game for the game itself. My friends and I actually get many good laughs at how over sexualized the characters in series are. That game is rated M, and for a reason (although it used to be T back in the day), so they can get away with over the top things. If Fatal Frame is already rated M for reasons that are unrelated to sexuality, and they already have boob physics, then there's really no point in taking out more content you could only get away with if you have a Mature rating anyways. It's not like they tried to censor the game for a T rating, because it was going to be rated M anyways.

America is just a ***** when it comes to sexuality and it's so stupid. Yet we are perfectly fine with violence. It should be the other way around.

God forbid you see part of a nipple when you're 11. It's fine for you to watch this movie about some random serial killer murdering people though. :upsidedown:
Same thing with Bravely Default. Although that was more for making the game T instead of M, there were outfits censored for literally no reason. What is wrong with this???

Sure there were some questionable outfits (Ringabel why are you a Chippendale before you're 18 smh), but they just thought cutting all of them was better for some reason? Even worse is that all of the outfits except the 1 Ringabel outfit ARE in the game if someone sends you a move while wearing whatever outfit it is, but you can't wear it yourself. What's the reason for that????????????????
 

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I'm going to try to make this quick. College is really starting to trouble me, so I'm not going to be on here (or anywhere on Smashboards) very often, if at all. In fact, I feel as if I spend more time here than I should on more important things. I know that I just joined this social forum, but this is something I must fix.

Sorry gorls.
AW :'(

It's okay gorl, we understand, hopefully you come and visit every once in a while.
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And Mewtwo is? Pit can fire arrows as fast as Luigi fireballs.
No.

Like I said, Pit's gimmicks makes Mewtwo's reflector useless. Don't think you can say otherwise at this point.
And I'm saying it hardly makes a difference. Don't make it out like this is a huge problem for Mewtwo.
 

Locke 06

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Same thing with Bravely Default. Although that was more for making the game T instead of M, there were outfits censored for literally no reason. What is wrong with this???

Sure there were some questionable outfits (Ringabel why are you a Chippendale before you're 18 smh), but they just thought cutting all of them was better for some reason? Even worse is that all of the outfits except the 1 Ringabel outfit ARE in the game if someone sends you a move while wearing whatever outfit it is, but you can't wear it yourself. What's the reason for that????????????????

They also censored these:
 

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No.

And I'm saying it hardly makes a difference. Don't make it out like this is a huge problem for Mewtwo.
No, Mewtwo can't punish or no, Pit can't shoot that fast?

It does, though. Mewtwo loses the projectile war as a result, and that's pretty notable because I believe Mewtwo doesn't outright lose the camping game to very many characters.
 
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